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Originalist 12-27-2013 04:18 PM

What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharpton?
 
Mr. Washington would be hated by the modern left.


Quote:

“There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient to get well.” (Booker T Washington)

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2013 12:06 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
I think hate is too strong. Sharpton doesn't hate Clarence Thomas or Thomas Sowell or anyone else.

So much has happened in this country since Mr. Washington's life. His frame of referrence wouldn't include the Civil Rights Era or the many years of Jim Crow era laws and policies, the effects of which can still be seen today.

Originalist 12-28-2013 12:19 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1294629)
I think hate is too strong. Sharpton doesn't hate Clarence Thomas or Thomas Sowell or anyone else.

So much has happened in this country since Mr. Washington's life. His frame of referrence wouldn't include the Civil Rights Era or the many years of Jim Crow era laws and policies, the effects of which can still be seen today.

How can you say that? His frame of reference was SLAVERY.

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2013 12:22 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1294633)
How can you say that? His frame of reference was SLAVERY.

Easy.

Slavery and Jim Crow are two separate eras in American history-- two separate evils with different effects.

Had Reconstruction been carried out properly in the South, then the 100 years of Jim Crow that followed would never have happened.

There would have been 100 years of civic and economic stability.

Tulsa wouldn't have happened.
Ocoee or Rosewood? wouldn't have happened.

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2013 12:26 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booker_T._Washington

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2013 12:30 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
Affirmative Action was not designed to address slavery. It was designed to address the much more recent and nationwide resentment and racism that stymied the educational, economic and political progress of many, many people based on their race.

The mechanisms in place today designed to help minorities were designed with the problems of 20th century America in mind.

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2013 12:39 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
Al Sharpton-- The Angry Black Man

http://www.oprah.com/own-oprahs-next...ny-Years-Video


He dealt with his anger-- finally.

Originalist 12-28-2013 01:05 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
Jeremy, the context of his statement applies in every era. Black leaders like Jackson and Sharpton do not want blacks to prosper and for their wounds to heal.

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2013 08:18 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1294645)
Jeremy, the context of his statement applies in every era. Black leaders like Jackson and Sharpton do not want blacks to prosper and for their wounds to heal.

Well I'll just have to disagree with you.

While I don't agree with everything Jackson and Shapton says or does, I find the notion that these two want harm for any one race of people to be silly.

n david 12-28-2013 08:37 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
Sharpton's a maggot. He shouldn't have his own show on MSNBC or be any kind of voice for black issues. Not with the death he caused years ago, and not with what he did with the girl who blatantly lied about being raped. His name should be repulsive to anyone in the black community.

Jackson is the same. A maggot. A parasite feeding off the anger and disgruntlement of the black community.

Booker T Washington had those two in mind with that quote.

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2013 08:51 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
I think some people judge the intents of Jackson and Sharpton too harshly.

I don't think they want to exacerbate any wrongs for victims (or sometimes liars). I don't think they would knowingly defend liars.

I don't think they want to or ever endorsed wide-spread racial violence.

I don't think these guys are as bad as some would like to make them out to be.

Besides, EVERYONE can listen to Sharpton and see a change in his style or tactics.

Jackson is already riding off into the sunset.

Jermyn Davidson 12-28-2013 09:02 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1294705)
Sharpton's a maggot. He shouldn't have his own show on MSNBC or be any kind of voice for black issues. Not with the death he caused years ago, and not with what he did with the girl who blatantly lied about being raped. His name should be repulsive to anyone in the black community.

Jackson is the same. A maggot. A parasite feeding off the anger and disgruntlement of the black community.

Booker T Washington had those two in mind with that quote.

Who's death did he cause?

n david 12-28-2013 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1294710)

Who's death did he cause?

" Sharpton made his name and his fame as the one to lead a protest movement after every racially charged incident in New York over the last 30 years (and many elsewhere in the U.S.) Especially early in his career,he seemed content and even eager to inflame racial hatreds at the risk of violence,as long as it gave him publicity and power.

Several of these protests escalated to the point of violence,in several cases by those who Sharpton championed. Examples include the Crown Heights riot of 1991,and a 1995 arson attack on a Jewish Harlem jeweler that resulted in 8 deaths."
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"Crown Heights tells us everything one needs to know about Sharpton.

A 7-year-old black child was accidentally struck and killed by a car driven by a Hasidic Jew in that section of Brooklyn, N.Y. It sparked three days of riots, resulting in a hundred people injured and the stabbing death of a young Jewish scholar, who was surrounded by a mob chanting, "Kill the Jew." Sharpton fanned the flames, leading some 400 protesters through a Jewish section of Crown Heights. He said: "The world will tell us that (the child) was killed by accident. ... What type of city do we have that would allow politics to rise above the blood of innocent babies? ... Talk about how Oppenheimer in South Africa sends diamonds straight to Tel Aviv and deals with the diamond merchants right here in Crown Heights. ... All we want to say is what Jesus said: If you offend one of these little ones, you got to pay for it. No compromise. Pay for your deeds." Later he said, "If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house.""

Jermyn Davidson 12-29-2013 01:31 PM

Re: What would Booker T. Washington think of Sharp
 
Thanks for bringing this up. I had never heard of this incident, but then I was a kid for this incident.

I think it is noteworthy that Sharpton has regretted some aspects of his involvement, admitting that his language and tone "sometimes exacerbated tensions".

It is also noteworthy that Jesse Jackson was active in improving the race relations in Crown Heights after this tragedy.

Sharpton appears to be a very different man today.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_Heights_riot
Sharpton was never a part of an organization like the guy in the link below.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd


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