Heaven is for Real Movie
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn_bRrxIGY8

What do you think?

Is it possible?

Or is this kid a liar? :laffatu

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They made a movie? Awesome! Can't wait to see it.

Wonder how they'll depict the Holy Ghost. In the book, it's "kind of blue". :winkgrin

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Thanks Timmy,

IT"S SETTLLEEDD!!! YYYYEEEEAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! :happydance

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Blue Haze is all in my brain, lately things don't seem the same, excuse me while I Oh never mind. :nod

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Should be interesting to see exactly how the movie interprets all the things the little boy says he saw.

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I read the book, it was interesting.

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Of course heaven is for real, I just have serious doubts about the parents of that kid.

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Just saw this move last week. It was an okay movie. When he said that Jesus was on a "rainbow" horse, I felt I needed to read the book. My DIL happened to have purchased it and I read it last night.

I have news for little boy Colton:

"And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne." Revelation 4:2

Page 95: Speaking of his sister that was stillborn. "It's okay Mommy," he said. "She's okay. God adopted her."

"Don't you mean Jesus adopted her?" she said.

"No Mommy. His Dad did."

What?

Page 100: "God is the biggest one there is. And he really, really loves us, Dad. You can't belieeeeve how much he loves us!"

"And do you know that Jesus sits right next to God?"

"Jesus' chair is right next to his Dad's!"

Page 101: "Well, pretend like you're in God's throne. Jesus sat right there," he said pointing to my right side.

Page 102: So, I'd had my glimpse into God's throne room, but Colton's descriptions had me wondering: if God the Father was seated on his throne with Jesus on his right and Gabriel on his left, where was Colton?

"They brought in a little chair for me," he said smiling. "I sat by God the Holy Spirit. Did you know that God is three persons, Dad?"

"I was sitting by God the Holy Spirit because I was praying for you. You needed the Holy Spirit, so I prayed for you."

So, I closed the book......

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I haven't seen the movie. Did read the book. Yes, I certainly think the parents have influenced the boy, but just how much is hard to know.

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When reading the book you see that the father was struggling with his church and with his garage door business. My "opinion" is that the book was an idea by the father to put something together to make some money. Now he is making bank. I do believe the child may have said somethings which gave Todd Burpo the idea to jell out a story, but to say it was "for real" I personally don't buy it.

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The quote
"I sat by God the Holy Spirit. Did you know that God is three persons, Dad?"
Just totally does not fit with the ideas of a child.
This quote itself generates a mountain of questions.

This thing is definitely not for real.
When this whole fraud comes out, it will only serve to embarrass Christianity.

Sad indeed how this child has been manipulated.

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Well, isn't that why they put the whole thing together in the first place?


I'm not saying this is the case, but what if Ted Haggard and the homosexual masseuse was all set up? Here you have the preacher who was beating his drum on the soap box in Jesus Camp documentary and then in a documentary with the atheist scientist Richard Dawkins? Then all of sudden low and behold Mr Ted "NO Same Gender Marriage" Haggard has not only a boyfriend but is snorting coke with the guy?

Life stranger than fiction?

Not trying to start another conspiracy theory.

But sometimes things happen, that can make you wonder?

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Nothing embarrasses Christianity. :lol

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Heaven is for real...this kid's/father's version of it isn't.

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Christianity has made it for 2,000 years and running, and your short life span will not even dent it. When you and I are gone, it will still march on unaffected by our opinions. That will be the last laugh. L O L. :)

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Amen.

Too bad. I really wanted a rainbow pony.

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I'm kinda getting the impression that you guys aren't swayed by eye-witness testimony. :heeheehee

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Not swayed when it contradicts the Word of God.

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You'll have to be satisfied with your tattooed arm. That's all the rainbow you'll be getting. :heeheehee

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Ate a full box of Corn Flakes today Timmy? :)

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That High Fructose Corn Syrup must have kicked in. :lol

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Don't watch movies here.

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Do you read books?

The book came out 2010.

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Don't worry most movies come from books. :heeheehee

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I believe the kid had an experience, and I believe it indicates a life after death. But the details are interpreted thru the doctrine and experience of the whole family. Just like many other religious experiences, explained thru the lens of the person. If the kid had been OP, it would have agreed with OP's and many of you would have lapped it up!! JMHO LOL

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So everyone is saved? Sounds like Hinduism.

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The only thing with him coming through an OP lens is that it wouldn't have contradicted the Bible. That's, like, a big, red, no-brainer flag. :heeheehee

I Googled his interview on the Today show and noticed that his father and mother spoke for him. Why wouldn't they? He is twelve now. He also sounded rehearsed.

One thing that struck me as odd, from the book, is that the father said it took "months and years" to get the full story from Colton. That is very odd as a 4 year old generally talks your ear off about an experience he has had or a place he has been.

During the interview he was asked what vivid memories he still remembers. He stated that he had two vivid memories - his grandfather and Jesus. So, he has two physical photo collaboration's embeded in his mind that his parents happen to have and have showed him throughout these years. That makes his memory questionable.

If his parents told him that he said he saw a "rainbow" horse that belonged to Jesus, he is going to say that he remembers that.

At first I thought he may have possibly had some type of experience, but now I am not sure he has had one at all.

I'm going to have to agree with Bro. Benincasa on this.

What are you implying? This is like a hate post.

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yea... Mrs. Ferd has been reading it. She handed me the book when she read that....

im out.

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It was! 'Cause you know I always think about how much I hate you, right? :gaga

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The movie doesn't really reflect the blatant view in the book, unless I missed it. It was kind of boring, so I am sure I wasn't paying very close attention. I was probably playing Sudoku while the movie was on. LOL!

It really ticked me off for some reason. Maybe I felt the deeper dishonesty of it.

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Everyone gets converted, all are reconciled to God by the finished work of Jesus. Jesus work at the cross was to UNDO Adam, He came into the creation to redeem the creation. He is the cure to the disease, and was so from the foundation of the world. All thru the finished work of God's plan of redemption.

Is your god, one that cannot finish what he started, cannot redeem his creation because of the foolish act of one of his creatures?????

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Like I said, had it been an OP, many here would have lapped it up. :heeheehee

I read the book when it first came out, I don't like the movie nor the current interviews.
I don't defend it, because I disagree with most of the theology that the family espouses.

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Well, at least the movie God's Not Dead emphatically said that Jesus was God. I was impressed with that movie. Some cheesy elements, but they got the debate down really well.

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Anyone remotely interested should watch some of Eben Alexander's, as well as Howard Storm and Anita Moorjani's to name a scant few.

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In the days of Jeremiah, when false prophets were propping up their dreams as signs and omens from God, God used Jeremiah to rhetorically ask the people "What is the chaff compared to the wheat"?

It's the same thing with NDE's or Near Death Experiences. Like dreams, they may be interesting, they even be fascinating, and some may be accurate, and some may even be from God---all well and good---but what is the chaff compared to the wheat?

The wheat, i.e. the Word of God, is all that matters in the end. The rest gets blown away by the wind.

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CJ in Acts 2:38 Peter told them to repent on the day of Pentecost, in Acts 17:30 the Apostle Paul addresses the Areopagus concerning the false doctrines among the Greeks, and states that in the past God overlooked the ignorance of men, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. CJ, your teaching causes more questions then it answers.

While your doctrine is fine for Hindus (in Hinduism even demons can obtain a salvation) but in Christianity your teaching hits a wall. Sorry, but Jesus commanded that all men REPENT! Yet, sadly that isn't what some men what to do. Hence freewill plays in this, but in Hinduism and Calvinism there isn't any freewill but fate, either you are predestined to hell or heaven.

Yet, in your paradigm you hold a sort of Hyper Calvinism (to be honest what you believe stands Hyper Calvinism on its head) your teaching places everyone from sinner to saint ending up in heaven. Jesus said it was finished at the cross, but the book of Acts still have a ministry baptizing and commanding all to repent.

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Thank you for bringing them up. :)

When a Hindu has a near death experience and they see Krishna does that mean Krishna is real to them or to us?