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Pardon me if this has been discussed on here already. I haven't checked in for quite a while just because my life has been very busy!!

Last week when I went to the doctor, our doctor asked me if I had read a book called "The Four Blood Moons". He highly recommended it. Today I am seeing things about it on Facebook. In fact, I was led to this article about John Hagee who it sounds like started this whole thing....

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.1754601

So, my question is: have you read it? What's your opinion?

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Margie, I don't know if there is anything to it or not. My first thought is "fear mongering", so I don't pay much attention to it.

When the article states that Hagee is saying that God is trying to communicate to humans with celestial signs, I immediately realize the correction would be that the Holy Ghost communicates with us. That could very well be the wording the author of the article chose, yet still - It is all about the Comforter and the reason God had to go away to come again to be "in" us. So, I listen to that still small voice to confirm things to me.

I was never alarmed over Y2K because God never spoke to me about it. Same thing here.

That's what I think about it.

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I read it. A friend gave it to me. I guess they were trying to spread the "word".

The whole premise of the book is that blood moons have happened before AND a few times something major has happened to the nation of Israel or the Jews. But even John Hagee admits in one spot that blood moons have happened many times and nothing has happened. Blood Moons are a natural phenomenon and are happening again in their natural cycle. With the preconceived notion that we are in the end times this leads to the conclusion that this is a sign to warn us that everything will end soon.

I am not worried. I actually laugh at this stuff. If you are right with the Lord it doesn't matter what happens. If the world end tomorrow I am OK as long as I am "in Christ".

Why do they bring extra biblical preaching into the spotlight? Cause they don't want to preach the Word of God.

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I read it, but John Hagee was not the first to bring this to light. In fact, in his book he admits Mark Blitz. A jew, is the one that sent him on the track of finding out about it.

It is a rare event to have four blood moons back to back with a total e lispe included in it. The significance of it is for or about the Jews.

If you remember God led the wisemen to Jesus with a star. Scripture talks about the sun, moon and stars.

I would not blow it off as nothing, but we should always be ready at anytime.

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I am ready at anytime.

BUT it is hard to take something serious when you have to pay $15 for a book.

If John Hagee really believe this he would spend his own money to buy commercial time on major networks telling people to get ready and get right with the Lord.

My humble opinion.

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I am not pointing my finger at anybody here.

But some people seem to be on a "End Times" High. They just can not wait for the Antichrist to show up. Every time anything happens you can see the glint in their eyes. They are giddy that billions are about ready to die and they will have a front row seat to the bloodbath.

I am not one of these people. I am a Christian. Maybe these people could call themselves Darbyites, since they are so in love with John Nelson Darby's ideas.

Do most people know Darby fell of a horse and hit his head? Because after this happened he came up with this great idea about the end times.

If you are going to be a Darbyite you might as well follow Scientology. L. Ron Hubbard was a science fiction writer that went on to create Scientology. Scientology believes that aliens brought us hear to earth or created us or something crazy like that. :blah

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If God was trying to communicate to us a warning or info about "the end" seems to me, that He has much better and effective ways to do so. A "blood moon" at two am in the morning when all the northern hemisphere is sleeping???? Not so much!!!

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Maybe He knows His faithful will be "watching as well as praying".

Then again, the end can't come until EVERYONE in the whole world alive at any given moment has heard the Gospel of Christ, right?

While we need to get ready and stay ready, the whole word has not heard the Gospel yet.

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I just don't believe God is a trickster, He has a plan and a purpose and it is coming to pass, when the purpose of this world of good and evil is served, all the creation will be redeemed and brought into right relationship to the Creator and each other. Evil will be dealt with, death will be no more, and on and on!

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The whole world has already heard the Gospel of Christ.

Acts 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

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The whole world has not already heard the Gospel and the scripture you used can't be taken literally.

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Jeremiah 10:2
Thus saith the Lord,
Learn not the way of the heathen,
and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven;
for the heathen are dismayed at them.

Besides, Israel will be on the wrong side of the world to see it, and it's suppose to be a sign for them...

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You and your pesky logic! :girlytantrum

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ya, that's kind of the direction I was thinking.

Thanks for your input, everyone. I always have a problem with it when people claim to be able to "predict the future" based on things like this. Really? If the signs that God wanted us to see were things like this, don't you think that it would have been in His Word?

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Anyone watching the blood moon?

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The moon was so bright and beautiful, I slept like a baby!! What blood moon?

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I am still here! I am still HERE!! I thought last night was THE NIGHT FOR THE END OF THE WORLD!!!

Oh no that was what everybody else thought. HA HA, I was right again. :icecream

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I thought the stars were suppose to fall too. So disapointing.

When the Nile turned to blood, was it just a color red from the atomisphere?

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Jesus gives us an interesting prophecy:

Luke 21:24-27
King James Version (KJV)
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Above, Jesus lists several things that must transpire before His return. Let's look at these signs one by one:

- "they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles" This was said to the first century disciples and therefore has to point to the Roman conquest of Jerusalem in 70AD and the diaspora that followed.

- "until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." This implies that this period of dispersion will come to an end when the "times of the Gentiles be fulfilled". This very well may imply the return of the Jewish people to their homeland. This might have been fulfilled in 1948 when the nation of modern Israel was born.

- "And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars;" This indicates fearful astrological signs and portents. Eclipses, comets, etc. are all a part of this.

- "and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity" This indicates international problems on a global scale that seem to have no remedy and keep the world on the brink of war.

- "the sea and the waves roaring;" This would indicate some kind of disturbance involving normal oceanic patterns. Sea and waves "roaring" might be predicting turbulent weather patterns: hurricanes, tsunamis, etc. Of course, today we know the impact that the ocean has on global weather patterns even over continental land masses. As a result, we could expect strange weather patterns in general.

- "Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken" This indicates a global sense of anxiety concerning all these things: Israel reborn (Arab/Israeli conflict), astrological portents, international problems of perplexity (food shortages, famine, disease, overpopulation, inflation, poverty, and war), and even the balance of nature seeming to be off.

- "for the powers of heaven shall be shaken" This could speak of man's tampering with physics and nuclear weapons. Or, it could simply mean that for those on earth... the very universe appears to be unstable. Solar flares, meteors, etc. endanger civilization. Man appears to be in danger from every direction.

Then Jesus brings us to it. At some point during all of this... Jesus returns unexpectedly. Maranatha!

If I were a weatherman predicting the Second Coming... I'd say that while we can't be certain... conditions are favorable for the Parousia.

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Let the moon really turn to blood and you'll have my attention.

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It's sad really, some things never change.

Matthew 16:2-3
He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red.
And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowering. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?

I know y'all are watching Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, and tired re-runs of Two and a Half Men... let me put it in a manner that you might understand...

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Errrrnt - Errrrnt - Errrrnt: We interrupt this broadcast for a severe weather bulletin. The International Endtime Weather Service has issued a PAROUSIA WATCH for the entire global community. Over the past 100 years this storm has gained in strength with increased winds of deception. Flash flooding of war and violence may occur in low-laying nations. This may be followed by economic collapse, disease, and famine. A rotation of signs in the sun, moon, and stars have been spotted. Stay in church. Stay away from windows. Do not abandon your church network accept in the event of emergency. Touch not the unclean thing. Have set times of extra prayer and fasting on hand. Conditions are favorable for Parousia. Be ready to take shelter in Christ, making your calling and election sure, in preparation for possible Parousia. This is a dangerous storm. This has been the International Endtime Weather Service. A PAROUSIA WATCH has been issued for the entire global community. Stay tuned for regular updates on this storm. This is NOT a test. We now resume your regular broadcasting. Errrrnt - Errrrnt - Errrrnt
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Conditions for Parousia:

-Israel reborn (Arab/Israeli conflict)
-astrological portents and omens
-international problems of perplexity (food shortages, famine, disease, overpopulation, inflation, poverty, and war)
-the entire balance of nature seeming to be off

If I worked for the National Weather Service, and the conditions were favorable for a tornado, I'd have to place the entire county under a, "Tornado Watch". I'd not rush to a "Tornado Warning" yet because a tornado hasn't been spotted in the sky. However, I'd be negligent in my duties to not issue a "Tornado Watch" with conditions favorable for a tornado.

Now, most of us don't get upset if the National Weather Service issues a tornado watch and a tornado doesn't manifest. Yet y'all howl and criticize a man who issues a "Jesus Watch" when conditions are favorable for Christ's return. It just doesn't make sense that people who call themselves "Christians" are being like this. I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I'd rather know that the conditions are favorable for Christ's return than find out that ministers sat on their hinder parts refusing to issue a watch out of fear of criticism. I want to be updated on this storm at any point a possible sign or indication of Christ's possible return is spotted.

I appreciate these men of God who stick their neck out for criticism. I look at them like eschatological weathermen. Let me know when conditions worsen or are favorable for prophetic fulfillment.

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Technically not Hagee or any person has "started" this. It's not "man-made" the tetrads have in fact lined up exactly with major world events in history. I've researched it and here are some FACTS:

There have only been 8 tetrads in world history with all 4 blood red moons falling on Jewish feast days and all have hit when there has been an major event:

1492: Jews leave Spain after Spanish Inquisition/Columbus discovers North America
1600-1900 NO TETRADS
1949 Nation of Israel recognized
1967 6 Day War - Israel takes possession of Jerusalem

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I could be hit by a bus and be in the Lord's presence today. This is more likely to happen than this. My day of the Lord could come ate ANY time! :happydance

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Many people that are all hoped up on prophecy have preconceived notions about the future. They are just certain prophecy is going to happen like they think it will.

Well the people of Jesus day had preconceived ideas about the coming messiah. Many people thought he would have a military takeover of Israel and rule as king on the throne. When Jesus showed up and he didn't come with an army they decided by their preconceived idea that this can not be the messiah. So they killed him.

God doesn't always do thing the way we think he will. God doesn't fit in a box.

Another one bites the dust.....

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$15 for a book is cheap, how many pages?

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Act 2:19 And I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke;
Act 2:20 the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day.

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It was just red... It really wasn't blood.

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I don't know? Actually someone gave it to me. I was just trying to make the point that there is money to be made off of these end time stories. :foottap

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My daughter stayed up last night, and took some great pictures of the moon. We watched it for a while, and it was pretty incredible to watch the dark shadow creep across the face of the bright full moon. I've attached a couple of her pictures that she took.

I don't know about all the talk about these blood moons... my faith is in Jesus, and Him alone. Regardless of man's predictions, and possible prophecies, the fact remains that we must not take our eyes off Him, and be swayed or brought into fear by doom and gloom prophecies. If it is indeed the end times, than even so come quickly Lord Jesus, and if not, I'll just continue walking with Him day by day.

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:thumbsup

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http://covenant-theology.blogspot.co...le_27.html?m=1

http://americanvision.org/?s=Moon+in....wPjtVHV6.dpbs

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Awe, man, way to ruin it for the rest of us!

:lol

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Thanks, great references.

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Context, my friend, dramatic language describing the coming of the Covenant and the Holy Spirit.

16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

21 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

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:thumbsup

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So disappointing to see so much sarcasm about another's belief. Never in my life have I seen so many people with the attitude I'm right and I know the interpretation of all scripture. And if you don't see it my way your nuts!

Satan couldn't do it any better.

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I am not saying I am right at all. In fact I probably have many things wrong. I fully admit that.

The point I was trying to make is that it is important to be prepared this very hour to meet the Lord in eternity.

Billions have died thinking they had a year, seven years or one more decade and Jesus is coming back. We could meet Jesus today!!!

I can not control Jesus coming back. That is not within my power. But he told us certain things to do to be faithful.

He did not give us the spirit of fear

Live for God today and let tomorrow worry about itself

Don't prophesy something God did not tell you

Testify about Jesus his Death Burial Resurrection!

It is my opinion that we have stopped doing our Christian work because of the excuse "Well their is no time left, Jesus is coming back at any minute or day". This is the exact opposite of what the Apostles did. The Apostles were convinced Jesus could came back at any time and they preached, started churches and went on mission trips.

And no matter what anybody said I will always try to bring balance to the issue, that is just me!?! :chat

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The longer I'm a Christian the more I realize that the following are even greater signs than those in the heavens or on the earth below...

Matthew 24:44
Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Matthew 24:37
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Luke 17:27
They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

2 Peter 3:4
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

In my 25 years of being a believer... I've never seen so many (including fellow believers) not taking the Second Coming very seriously. Almost to the point of rolling their eyes at potential signs.

In a sense... to me... this is even a greater sign.

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I do believe that some focus on prophecy to the point of being unbalanced. However, the prophetic admonition to be alert and watching and for Christ's second coming need not be neglected.