Should we worship Jesus?
 

It's said Jesus is fully man and fully God. It's also said we should worship God and we should not worship man.

So since Jesus is fully man we shouldn't worship him. But since he is fully God we should. I'm a little confused on if we should worship Jesus or not?

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A person has to first know who he is...
Pss.45
[10] Hearken, O daughter (of Zion), and consider,
and incline your ear;
forget also your own people (like Abraham), and your father's house;
[11] So the king (and God of Israel Jesus),
shall greatly desire your beauty (righteousness)
for he (Jesus) is your (Israelite) Lord (Deut. 6:4)
and you (must) worship him.
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After the resurrection of the God of Israel.
Matt.28
[9] And as they went to tell his disciples,
behold, Jesus met them, saying,
All hail.
And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him.
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[16] Then the eleven disciples (APOSTLES) went away into Galilee,
into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
[17] And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

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I worship Yeshua as the Christ. Both God and man.

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Yes we should worship Jesus.

Hebrews 1:6
And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him

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Jesus and the Father are worshipped in heaven..

The Worship of GOD, the Highest the Father, who never died.
Rev.4
[8] Holy, Holy, Holy, Lord GOD Almighty, (the good Father),
who was and who is and who is to come.
[9] When the (4) beasts give:
glory (praise)
and honor (high regard)
and thanks (for all good gifts)
to the Highest GOD who sat on the throne,
who lives forever and ever (and never dies)
[10] then the twenty four (24) elder
>> fall down (on all fours) before the Highest,
who sat on the throne,
and worshiped him (happily and humbly),
who lives forever and ever.
They cast their crowns, in front of,
the throne (of the Most High and good GOD) saying:
[11] O LORD (GOD), you are >> worthy << to get
glory (acknowledgment and high regard from the creation)
and honor (from the entire creation)
and power (to rule above all)
for you have create
all things, (by Jesus Christ your Power and your Wisdom).
All things are and were created, (by Jesus),
to bring you (the good GOD), pleasure (happiness).

The Worship of the Son, the lamb, who is the Mighty God Of Israel.

Rev.5
[6] I beheld and lo,
in the midst of the throne (with GOD)
and the midst of the four (4) beasts,
and in the midst of the (24) elders,
stood a Lamb, like it (he) had been >> killed,
having seven (7) horns and seven (7) eyes,
that are the seven (7) Spirits of GOD,
that are sent forth,
into the entire earth (and in the Holy People).
[7] The lamb came,
and took the Book from the right hand of GOD, (the Highest)
who sat upon the throne.
[8] When he, the lamb (the Mighty God), had taken the book,
the four (4) beasts together with the twenty (24) elders,
every one of them having harps (musicians)
and golden vials full of odors, that are the prayers of saints,
>> fell down before (worshipped) the Lamb (the HEAD of the Church).
[9] They (28) sung a new song (of praise to Jesus) saying:
You are worthy, (have merited),
to take the Book and to open its seals,
for you were slain (for our sins)
and by your blood, you (the seed of Abraham),
have redeemed us to GOD (the Highest),
out of every kindred and tongue and people and nation
[10] and you have made us Kings and Priests, (a Royal Priesthood),
to our GOD (the Highest)
and we (Kings and Priests of the Highest GOD),
shall reign (over all people) on the earth.
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[11] I (John) saw and I hear
>> the voice << of many angels (saved ones)
who gathered around the throne (of GOD)
and the (4) beasts and the (24) elders:
and the number of them (the angels) was
ten thousand times ten thousand,
and thousands of thousands
[12] shouting with a (united) loud voice:
The Lamb, who was slain,
is worthy to be rewarded (from GOD)
Power >> (all power in Heaven and on the earth)
and Riches (Spiritual and material, as GOD’s inheritor)
and Wisdom (from the 7 Spirits)
and strength (from the 7 Spirits)
and honor (from GOD and man)
and glory (from GOD and man)
and blessing (happiness from GOD and man, forever)
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As above so below.
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Regards ...

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If Jesus did anything for you then THaNKs to him is in order...

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We worship a Person not a thing. We worship Him not his nature.

Jesus is a Person (God) who has both the Divine and Human natures.

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So if that person wasn't the creator, the almighty, the ruler of the universe then we would worship him? Because those titles are intrsically tied to God's nature and there is no way you can say we should worship a person without claiming that person is those things.

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He (Person) is THE Creator because He (Person) possesses that charactoristic

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Prax you must believe Jesus is not god just as strongly as you believe he is god. It's what dual nature doctrine teaches. That Jesus both is god and is not god. Until you are just as comfortable saying Jesus is not god and that Jesus shouldn't be worshipped as you are sayin he is god and he should be worshipped then your missing half of what dual nature doctrine teaches.

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God has glorified his Son to the point that he will not accept any worship outside of the worship of his Son.

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No

I believe He is both God and Man at the same time.

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Man is not God. Therefore you believe Jesus is both God and not God at the same time :)

Unless you are saying there was one man that was God....

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What does "Man is not God" mean in the context of a Divine Person who has both a Divine nature and a Human nature?

BTW Im saying a Person is both God and Man at the same time but not in the same way....didn't we do this once before?

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Jesus is the Godman He has always been God and always will be God. He became man and will remain man. It is not that He is part God part man. Rather He is 100% God 100% man. To say that He both is and is not God is to attempt to separate His divinity from His humanity but this not possible. It would be like trying to separate the genes received from mother and your father and yet still have a whole person.

It is not that a man became God but that God became a man and that man was God the moment of conception. He has never been anything but God yet still man at the same time.

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Doesn't being a man imply that a person is not god? You can say he's a man in a different way than he is god. I'm fine with that. But by saying he's a man that implies he has a god other than himself, that in one way he is not god, even if according to you he is god in another way.

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Pss.45
[10] Hearken, O daughter (of Zion), and consider,
and incline thine ear
Also forget thine own people, and your father's house.
[11] So your king (Isa.43:15 (JESUS)), shall greatly desire your beauty
and worship him (JESUS),
because he is your Lord (the God of Israel).

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Being A man does.

Being a God who adds to Himself Human nature does not. You are making a category fallacy in comparing God to "a man".

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Jesus is not a man?

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Jesus is the Divine Person (Yhwh) with Human qualities added. He is man, not a man. He is both God and Man. Deity and Human

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Jews have that problem and worse.

Jesus was worshipped only by those
who knew him, as their God.
Pre-incarnation:
Isa.43
[15] I (JESUS) am the LORD,
your Holy One,
the creator of Israel, your King.

Pss.45
[10] Hearken,
O daughter (of Zion= the Apostles first), and consider,
and incline your ear
Also forget your own people, and your father's house.
[11] So your king (Isa.43:15, JESUS),
shall greatly desire your beauty
and worship him (JESUS),
because he is your Lord (the God of Israel).

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You already acknowledged above that being a man implies that the person Jesus is not God. You maintain that he is also God and I'm fine with that. But according to the above you believe that he is also not God (because you believe Jesus is a man and you believe that being a man implies a person is not God) Those were your own words Prax.

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just a note here, on the fly--what is usually translated 'worship' to us is the same word for 'follow,' in Hebrew anyway. so, this might alter ones answer here. how does one worship without following? we try it all the time, imo, evincing the verses "I'm not interested in your incense or your sacrifices" paraphrased.

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To WORSHIP Jesus is not to mean He is God .Rather is homage and respect paid to him for being Lord our Lord over us.

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But he asked you whether or not we should worship Jesus since we are told to not worship man.

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What are your thoughts Blume? I know you are justified in worshipping him because he is God, but am I not just as justified in not worshipping him because he is also man, ie not God?

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see that it is ones definition of 'worship' here that is pertinent, and not how many angels can dance on the head of a pin lol.

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God wants his Son worshiped with the same worship he gets.

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Interesting approach

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I actually think Jesus ensured we not worship Him due to his humanity, which implies we worship only His deity.

Matthew 19:17 LITV And He said to him, Why do you call Me good? No one is good except One, God! But if you desire to enter into life, keep the commandments.

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So worship only the divine part of him?

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Interesting. I always like seeing the other sides explanation. You allow for worship of Jesus even though he is not God, God is worshipped as God and Jesus is worshipped as Lord. Very interesting. On a more pointed note I could simply reask my original question with "should we worship Jesus as God?" That would be enough to still unsure my point and remove all the we should worship him but not as God answers :)

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Can you elaborate on your concept? Or would it be easier if I simply asked a few questions about your concept, it's just without more info I'm not really sure where to begin.

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And Biblical, too. How about that?

If we take the time to define worship, we see the following ideas (inexhaustive):

- Love
- Obedience
- Submission/subjection to
- Gratefullness
- Humility before
- Praise (we boast and brag on)
- Glorify (i.e. we talk about highly to others)
- Share (we share what's good about the object of our worship with other in the hopes of convincing them)
- Devotion (the object of our worship comes first before all)

With this in mind, it is fully acceptable, Biblically speaking, for someone to do all of the above to and for Jesus, the Son of God.

Is it not then worship?

Even to someone like me, who does not conflate the man Christ Jesus with God the Father resident and manifested within?

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A close friend of the president or former president would treat the president or former president with all of the above. If those things are what worship entails than I submit that Jesus only needs to be a great man to receive worship, for many kings and presidents have received the same worship.

Is such the worship the scripture speaks of when Jesus told Satan that God alone should be worshiped?

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i find it passing strange that follow does not come up in that list...i am not a big facebooker, and don't do "twoo" at all, even though i do still get notices in my spam folder from them. They are an Israeli website. Anyone notice "Worship Us" under their FB link on the lower right? (of course they mean "follow us")