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oneinkhorn 05-24-2014 11:40 PM

California drive-by gunman kills six
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27556097

California drive-by gunman kills six in Santa Barbara

A gunman has killed six people in drive-by shootings near the Californian city of Santa Barbara, US police say.


The shootings took place late on Friday in Isla Vista near the University of California-Santa Barbara campus.

The suspected gunman was found dead in his car with a bullet wound. It is unclear whether it was self-inflicted.

Police are looking into a possible link with a Youtube video in which a young man complains of repeated rejection by women and threatens to take revenge.
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I heard shots, scream, pain”

Michael Vitek Eyewitness

Seven other people are in hospital, and being treated for bullet wounds.

The shootings occurred at several sites in the town of Isla Vista, and there were nine crime scenes, police said.

Witnesses described seeing a black BMW speeding through the streets, with shots being fired at people.

Student Michael Vitek told local TV station KEYT he had seen one woman being fatally struck and another critically injured. "I heard shots, scream, pain," he said.

The horrific sequence of events occurred in the university area of Santa Barbara, which is known as a party area for students, says the BBC's Peter Bowes in Los Angeles.

With Friday the start of a holiday weekend in the US, it could be that the timing was chosen for maximum effect, he adds.

Police say they were alerted to the shootings around 21:30 on Friday (04:30 GMT on Saturday). Six minutes later, the suspect and responding officers exchanged gunfire.

The suspect fled. But after a second exchange of fire with police, he eventually crashed into a parked vehicle.

He was found dead in his car with a bullet wound to the head. A semi-automatic handgun was recovered from the vehicle.

Investigators know the suspect's name but would not release it before all relatives were notified, Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown told reporters.

"We have obtained and are currently analysing videotaped evidence that suggests that this atrocity was a premeditated mass murder," Mr Brown said.

He said police were familiar with a YouTube video entitled Elliot Rodger's Retribution, in which a man says he is aged 22 and vows revenge on women, with whom he says he has never had an intimate experience.

Praxeas 05-25-2014 12:02 AM

Re: California drive-by gunman kills six
 
It wasn't a "drive by". It was a killing spree by a sick man. He started with his room mates. He drove to a sorority and shot three girls out front, then he drove around shooting people and running into people with his car

Each gun was legally purchased and registered to him. The system is messed up

TJJJ 05-25-2014 07:39 AM

Re: California drive-by gunman kills six
 
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

His daddy is one of the producers of the "Hunger Games", a move trilogy featuring new ways to kill someone.

Sounds like little boy learned well.

Just my .02

TJJJ 05-25-2014 07:40 AM

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People don't understand the spiritual world that they let in when they open the doors to the filth of hollywood.

But no, it will be another reason to outlaw more and more guns in Cali. Surely it can't be Hollywoods fault! Surely it can't be sin!

n david 05-25-2014 08:35 AM

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Attorney Shifman said the Rodger family called police several weeks ago after being alarmed by YouTube videos "regarding suicide and the killing of people" that Elliot Rodger had been posting.

Police interviewed Elliot Rodger and found him to be a "perfectly polite, kind and wonderful human," but noted that he had few friends and no girlfriend, he added. Police did not find a history of guns.
Sad.

n david 05-25-2014 08:38 AM

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The Rodger family is not ready to speak publicly yet, but wants to cooperate fully with police, Shifman said.

"My client's mission in life will be to try to prevent any such tragedies from ever happening again," he said. "This country, this world, needs to address mental illness and the ramifications from not recognizing these illnesses."
More blaming mental illness.

crakjak 05-25-2014 01:08 PM

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Another mentally ill man, on legal drugs for the illness, and likely accompanied by alcohol. When will the culture acknowledge the destructiveness of the drug industry's greed for the billions made by legalizing poison for our struggling ones. Depression and mental illness, is often, temporary if not aggravated by these dangerous drugs.

Jason B 05-25-2014 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1314951)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

His daddy is one of the producers of the "Hunger Games", a move trilogy featuring new ways to kill someone.

Sounds like little boy learned well.

Just my .02

Not many talking about this. Its dead on. Wonder if getting rich off such movies is worth it now. Sad.

Praxeas 05-26-2014 01:09 AM

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The news is saying now the police never saw this kids videos...wow..in this day and age how could they NOT have watched them first?

TJJJ 05-26-2014 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1315061)
The news is saying now the police never saw this kids videos...wow..in this day and age how could they NOT have watched them first?

But one of the victims dad is already blaming guns.

Ca is so mixed up...

n david 05-26-2014 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1315061)
The news is saying now the police never saw this kids videos...wow..in this day and age how could they NOT have watched them first?

Something is wrong with this. Up a few posts, I posted a quote from the attorney of the kid's dad who said they saw the videos and contacted the police.

So either the family is lying, or the police did not do a thorough job.

Sean 05-26-2014 09:24 AM

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My wife and I were discussing this on our walk yesterday. I think that this generation of young people is becoming religionless and have no "moral compass". They dont think of eternal consequences for their actions. (or sanctity towards human life either). There are consequences to a society that proclaims that there is no God.(and no hell)

Reader 05-26-2014 10:40 AM

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If the police never looked at the videos after the family reporting them and if they just went to see him without doing that first, how tragic. While I realize that police may have limited time, how many people report YouTube videos to them? I would think that would be out of the ordinary, especially when coming from family.

Did any of you watch his last one? I did. I don't recall him saying he was bullied or picked on, just upset that no girls wanted him and he wanted to have sex and a girlfriend because in his mind that's what you do in college. So you go kill people for that, people you do not even know?

KeptByTheWord 05-26-2014 10:57 AM

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What is unfortunate is that the left will again try to use this as a reason to ban guns. Guns cannot kill by themselves, but must be picked up by someone, and used. So, instead of trying to take guns away, the issue is much deeper, and discussion must entail for those people who are mentally ill, and what can be done to help them.

Reader 05-26-2014 11:20 AM

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I did read an article last night that brought up the problem with desensitization and movies/tv programs pertaining to killing. In reading the comments section many did not like the article. I believe it does have something to do with the things we see in the youth today.

Praxeas 05-26-2014 12:23 PM

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I blame guns...not enough Guns in the hands of citizens who saw this jerk

Praxeas 05-26-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1315092)
My wife and I were discussing this on our walk yesterday. I think that this generation of young people is becoming religionless and have no "moral compass". They dont think of eternal consequences for their actions. (or sanctity towards human life either). There are consequences to a society that proclaims that there is no God.(and no hell)

I posted this once before when there was another mass shooting of this type..

His mental status is being blamed but how come in years gone by this sort of stuff did not happen that often? It has little to do with their mental status. These guys are ANGRY. If you read what they say or write you can see the anger and hatred.

We are doing something wrong. Personally I do blame something, but it does not end there. I blame bad parents. I blame TV, video games and music that all are one person's idea being shoved into the minds of easily impressionable people...

Praxeas 05-26-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Reader (Post 1315124)
I did read an article last night that brought up the problem with desensitization and movies/tv programs pertaining to killing. In reading the comments section many did not like the article. I believe it does have something to do with the things we see in the youth today.

I am amazed at how so many people are unwilling to see how messed up our media has become...perhaps because most of them are hooked by Reality TV...

I was listening to the radio and after they mentioned this I looked it up but you know the percentage of teens that view porn? It's ASTOUNDING...and of course all made possible by the Internet...that's another troubling problem

Reader 05-26-2014 12:58 PM

Re: California drive-by gunman kills six
 
Prax, I have not seen those figures on teens. How did they compare to others who were viewing porn? And yes the internet is quite troublesome in that area.

n david 05-26-2014 01:18 PM

Re: California drive-by gunman kills six
 
Snapchat and other apps which allow people to take photos which are erased in 3-10 seconds (or so is claimed) are very popular among the youth. Sexting is incredibly popular with young people using those apps.

Reader 05-26-2014 01:28 PM

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I am unaware of Snapchat. Sigh.


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