Islamic Prayers at the Vatican
 

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/06/08...e-held-vatican

For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

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hmm.

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Future Berlin Building to House 3 Religions Under One Roof

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...e-9507002.html

BERLIN, June 8 ― Christians, Muslims and Jews, all praying under the same roof ― that’s the groundbreaking project of a pastor, a rabbi and an imam in Berlin.

Not a church, nor a synagogue, or a mosque as such, but a bit of all three, the centre known currently as a “House of Prayer and Learning” will be unlike any other religious venue in the world, its initiators say.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incomin...houseGETTY.jpg


A model of the future building.

http://www.independent.co.uk/incomin...32modelEPA.jpg

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Plans Underway Build a "Tri-Faith" Center in Nebraska

http://trifaith.org/?page_id=2

The Tri-Faith Initiative, a partnership of the three Abrahamic faith groups — Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, plans to build a Tri-Faith Center to co-locate with Temple Israel, a new church for the Episcopal Diocese of Nebraska and a mosque for the American Institute of Islamic Studies and Culture. These four buildings will form a multi-faith neighborhood of collaboration.

http://trifaith.org/wp-content/uploa...Faith_fade.jpg

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if this succeeds, you will know that the world approves; if it is attacked, you will know that God does. imo

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Does the One True God listen to, and take heed, to the prayers of false prophets who pray to a non-existent god? Yes, He hears, for nothing is hidden from Him, but since their prayers are NOT directed to Him, then I am unwilling to say that He takes heed or responds in any manner whatsoever!

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Asteroid named "Beast" to fly by Earth Sunday when Pope Allows Quran Reading in Vatican

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2...arth/10161829/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iihexLgWZE8

http://yottafire.com/wp-content/uplo.../The-Beast.jpg

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:thumbsup:thumbsup

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i think this denies that Ishmael was blessed of God, #1, and also that regardless of the 'official' position of the religion here, God looks at the hearts of the adherents--which is why some Apo/Pents may even make it! :lol it is a model, guys. God has a bunch of Names, and one of them is Allah. The Qur'an plainly bows the knee to Christ. Just because it serves the PTB to divide you by presenting murderous heretics who scream "Allah" as "Muslims," in your satan-infected "news," does not mean you have to buy it. etc. Arg already.

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and Lafon, you are judging here, along with Dordt? I am surprised. "Judge yourself."

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If late night ululation disturbs your canticles... you might be a compromiser. lol

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:lol

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They worship Jehovah God of the Old Testament like the Jews do..

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They also use the first five books of the Torah like the Jews.

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That being saiid, many churches today have a Rabi speak in their church . Is there a difference?

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David Bernard would be in agreement.

Islam is a monotheistic religion founded by Mohammed in 7th century Arabia. Moslems worship the God of the Bible, but believe that Mohammed's book, the Koran, is God's Word for today. - Practical Holiness, A Second Look by Bernard

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Islam... an Arabic Mormonism?

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ha, so funny that you say that, as i have never met a Mormon that i didn't like, either--although there surely are some. i post because these seem to be the only two that i continue to be drawn to even after a 'religious' discussion, even though i might disagree with points of each of them. no 'righteous indignation,' etc.

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Hehe... That's the thought I had...

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Just saying: The pope supports the koran.

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The pope is known to be a peace maker...

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hmm well i like the pope about as much as i'm pretty sure you like the Qur'an...but i wonder how much false flag is embedded here? the RCC is looking pretty dismal at the moment, let's have the pope 'support' the Qur'an? just to denigrate It? Don't know.

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allah is not the name of the God of the Bible (which also happens to be my God)? allah was the name of one of three hundred and sixty idol gods worshipped in the Kaa'ba. To see that the God of the Bible and allah are not the same all one must do is ask three simple questions:

1. Was Jesus the Son of God?

2. Did Jesus die on the cross?

3. Was Isaac the Promised son to Abraham and Sarah?

Simpply compare their yes and no answers to the Bible and you will have your answer.

There is a beign who goes by the name allah that claims to be a god and is worshipped as a god but according to the Apostle Paul this bieng is a demon that will one day bow before Jesus and declare Him to be Lord!

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Some people say "do not judge," but Jesus also said "Beware of false prophets." How can we beware of them if we can't identify them? There are different ways of judging. In another place Jesus said we should judge with a righteous judgment.

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"...and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears"
You will know them by their fruit

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Allah (English pronunciation: /ˈælə/ or /ˈɑːlə/; Arabic: الله‎ Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤˈlˤɑːh] ( )) is the Arabic word for God (al ilāh, iliterally "the God"). The word has cognates in other Semitic languages, including Alah in Aramaic, ʾĒl in Canaanite and Elohim in Hebrew.

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:thumbsup You my friend are onto something profound. Most people use the phrase "do not judge" to mean "be nice".

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i did a study on Judgement, and i think the forbidden kind will always come with some accompanying behavior; mocking, belittling, etc. We of course must make personal judgements, that apply to ourselves.

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:thumbsup

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i also did a study where it said "You shall know them by their fruits"

It should tell you something when so called leaders start to worship false religions.

About JUDGING:

Borrowing characters from C. S. Lewis, imagine this dialogue between a junior demon named Wormwood and his wicked uncle Screwtape. This fiendish exchange could have occurred a century ago:

Wormwood: Believers have so many weapons at their disposal. It is difficult to neutralize them. It takes a huge effort just to slow the work of a single Christian.

Screwtape: Your one-on-one approach is inefficient. This is the age of Madison Avenue and mass marketing. If you can undermine their whole group at once, then you’ve accomplished something.

Wormwood: Unfortunately, I’m not highly productive. In the time it takes me to frustrate one believer, I could tempt a dozen heathens.

Screwtape: Don’t lose heart, Wormwood. We are imple..menting a plan to impair the whole Church with a single ploy.

Wormwood: I don’t see how that will be possible. I see Christians dedicated to warning others about hell. It’s all I can do just to get one of them distracted for a short time.

Screwtape: We are going to use their Leader’s own words.

Wormwood: No! Please don’t. Don’t even joke about using His words. I can’t take it.

Screwtape: If you’re ever going to grow up to be an effec..tive demon, you’re going to have to learn to use the Enemy’s words against Him.

Wormwood: It just seems so dangerous. Which words are you going to use?

Screwtape: “Judge not!”

Wormwood: I don’t understand why He would tell them not to judge. That’s confusing. He commanded His followers to rebuke, admonish, and judge hundreds of times in His Book. And that’s what they’re out there
doing. And I might add, it’s causing me grief.

Screwtape: When their Leader said those words, He was speaking to hypocrites. “Judge not… you hypocrite,” as He said later in the same paragraph.

Wormwood: Yeah, but how are we going to use “Judge not” to neutralize the whole Church?

Screwtape: We’re going to get them to ignore the fact that He was talking to hypocrites. He said that hypocrites should not judge, at least not until they stop doing the wrong deed themselves. But we’re going to make them think none of them should judge, ever.

Wormwood: That’s bril..liant… if you can pull it off, that is. I mean, if we can get them to stop judging, then they won’t rebuke the wicked. And they won’t be able to admonish those who are sexually immoral.

Screwtape: It is even more brilliant than you realize. If we can seduce Christians into fol..lowing the instructions for hypo..crites, we will turn them into hypocrites. It’s like government workers who follow foolish rules so precisely they are transformed from human beings into bureau..crats; drones who mindlessly dis..pense red tape regardless of the misfortune they cause. The slave who willingly obeys his master, begins to conform to the master. If believers willingly submit to an instruction for hypocrites, they will conform to hypocrisy. Eventually, with a little evil luck, we might stop them from con..fronting unbelievers altogether because, as you know Worm..wood, to confront requires judg..ing. And if they don’t judge un..believers, they are hypocrites, professing the Gospel but deny..ing its power.

Wormwood: Ha, ha. I’m excited. When do we start?

Screwtape: Everything is underway already. Just do your part.

Wormwood: And that is…?

Screwtape: Make sure your targets read as little of the Book as possible. Don’t get too wor..ried if they stick to their favorite twenty cliché verses. But make sure they remain ignorant of most of the Word.

Wormwood: Master, you are brilliant.

Screwtape: You can call me Master if you want, but don’t let the boss hear you.

So much about NOT judging.

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Like Judisiam?

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So are you saying that the God of the Bible and allah are the same being?

Also do you claim to be a christian?

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Yeah, the God of the Old Testiment is the one they are worshiping when they pray to Allah....

Yes, I'm a Christian , I just got through reading my draughters Colledge book on Islam... I was shocked . It wasn't quit what I expected... Not all Muslems are radical. Just like not all Babtist are like that group in Kansas.

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Well he has a point. Do you worship the God of the Jews?

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In that way, Jews, Christians, and Muslims are the same. Jews and Muslims both reject Christ as their Messiah...

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hmm; and yet the Qur'an plainly states that those who do not follow Christ are doomed...and 'worship' translates from the Hebrew as 'follow.'

Dordt, you say, "So much for not judging," as if this dialogue you presented were in Scripture or something. It seems significant to me that you could not relate a Scriptural passage for this lesson, and wadr it might be possible that i am posting to a hypocrite! The wicked are rebuked in ones refusal to join in; or, one may easily say, "I am scared of what God would think" over "you are a wicked pervert," and to demon...strably more effect.

Now, i'm surely as big a hypocrite as anyone, so please take that in the spirit intended. How do you get around Judge not, or you will be judged?

It does, and it did. All of them are false. All religions, particularly yours, are worldly and have satan at their head--it's just the way things are. The moment you start signing promises to preach a certain doctrine, regardless of what the Holy Spirit may tell you in the future, you are lost.

I can tell you one thing; it was scary for me, but i have never looked back, and i am not sorry. Lose your religion. It is a stage, possibly a necessary one, but the Holy Spirit is waiting for you on the other side, and will not let one who seeks God falter; you will get plenty of nudges if you are straying from the path. Peace to you.

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Rejecting Christ means being lost.
My Bible says there's only one way to the father and that's through Jesus Christ.

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Well, it's might not be in scripture but it relates to the condition of the average church.

Btw, what you are preaching in your previous post…..is that in scripture???

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So you and islamist worship the same god?

Question do you believe that Jesus was the Son of God and that He died on the cross?

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don't you see that this answer that comes out of his mouth is irrelevant?
Um--about all religion being satanic, you mean? yes, i believe it is. This might depend upon ones definition of 'religion,' however; and mine varies from most peoples--"Man's attempts to reach God."