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I know many churches have stop singing the od songs altogether. We still sing out of the book and sing new choruses too.

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We have a copy of the "Sing Unto The Lord" that we use to sing out of at our fellowship meetings, and we also sing choruses and newer songs too.

But it seems to be the new way of doing things, to throw out the old in favor of the new. I think it is better to mix the combination of the two.

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Does everybody actually sing out of the book, or sing the words from a screen?

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We still sing the old hymns out of the song book and the new songs from the overhead screen. :offkey

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Yes we still sing one or two out of the book every service.

We also sing some new stuff, some not so new stuff and some of the old choruses and some of the really old choruses.

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What scripture says we need to stick to the old paths by singing out of songbooks? It sounds as though you're preaching against projectors as though it is against what God wants.

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I have a special place for the old stuff :)

Well some of it...

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I didn't see that at all here.

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I agree. :highfive

We put the words on a screen but do alit of old hymns in modern versions.

Rock of Ages
All Hail the Power of Jesus Name
Softly & Tenderly
'Tis So Sweet To Trust in Jesus
Crown Him with many Crowns

And many more. There is tremendous theology in the hymns.

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I think it is time to rewrite all the songs that were written by the Trinitarians.
Just as I am sick and tired of having to use Trinitarian bibles, commentaries and books.
I think over half of the songs in our song books come from the Trinitarians.
why should we continue to sing Trinitarian created songs?

Better yet, why not simply dump all the Trinitarians songs

we just keep on following the Trinitarian's lead, they are the head and we are the tail and I am for one sick of that.

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Neither did I

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I love to sing the old song out of the book especially when you can have three part harmony. And the songs like "He Wrote My Name" with the two parts going. I just love them.

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I still have my old Sing Unto the Lord songbook, although it is a bit dusty.

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Our church is only 5 years old so did not have any song books already to have to decide whether to continue to use or not. For that reason we are totally 21st century with the words on mutliple screens whether it is an old hymn or newer praise and worship song.

I have no problem with song books and if I were at an older church where they were still in good shape and plentiful I would still use them along with putting the lyrics on screens.

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I didn't think anyone used books anymore. Good to know there are still some. It would be nice to find a church where people actually sang, instead of watching the praise team perform. Of course the volume is so loud in most places you can't even hear yourself. My parents occasionally go to a Baptist church just to sing some old songs. I'm not opposed to the screen method which has been in use for over 30 years but put the whole song up there, not just one verse. With either screen or books it would be nice to actually hear singing again.

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I guess when I say sing out of the book I mean sing the old hymns.

It doesn't matter to me weather they are in a book or on a screen, though the songs with two parts might be hard to put on a screen.

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Oh! Our church has a very young demographic but we do still sing old hymn. For a long time you could pretty much count on one of the four praise and worship songs being an old hymn but it is more sporadic now. What is cool is that the response to the old hymns is great from our younger crowd. Of course we only sing the really good old hymns so that helps!

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Oh, I have nothing against a screen, especially in large buildings, as it is hard to accommodate everyone. But there is a special kind of reverence that comes from singing old hymns out of an old hymn book. I guess it just seems to mean more to us, and perhaps that is just tradition too. But having the words to the newer songs on the screen does help when the words to the song that are being sung are hard to understand.

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I remember many times that whenever an old hymn was finally sung after the life had been wrung out of all the newer 711 choruses, that is really when the spirit of the Lord would move.

Actually its a lot more than half and the fact is that without the contributions of trinitarians Christianity isn't what it is. It is trinitarians who stood for the faith, who gave us the reformation, who wrote the large majority of beloved hymns, who spilled their blood to translate the scriptures into the vernacular, who wrote 99% of the commentaries, who founded hospitals, orphanages, and homeless shelters. It was those trinitarians who because of their faith in Christ, conviction about His authority an Word who were stretched on the rack, burned alive by the dozens, drowned, beheaded and the like for the sake of Jesus Christ and the furtherance of His gospel. It was those trinitarians who overthrew the yoke of the Roman Catholic Church, guided the church out of the Dark Ages, and reestablished congregational singing/worship, evangelical and expository preaching, taught people to pray biblically instead of the empty prayers they repeated after the catholic priest in a language they didn't understand, and reinstituted the Lords supper (both the bread and the wine) for all believers. It was also trinitarians who gave us the holiness movement and even the Pentecostal movement.

So I'm not sure why we'd be so eager to throw out everything they gave us. They are our brothers and sisters in Christ.

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Yup. In all fairness though most churches only sing the cream of the crop of the old hymns. I am sure the percentage of mediocre old hymns is the same or almost the same as new songs! LOL The bad ones just went away and aren't sung any more.

My biggest gripe with contemporary praise and worship songs is that most don't have much of a melody and they try to cram way too many words in the song.

Every once in awhile there is a new song that rivals the best of the old standards. I think that Revelation Song is one of those.

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I LOVE the Revelation song! :highfive

I am not against new songs either... I am just against songs that are the 711 variety that have neither meaning, nor tune to them, and just become as sounding brass in your ears after one or two go-rounds.

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Very, very true.

Short of turning this into a oneness versus trin bash session, I would venture to say most church going triniatarians really believe Jesus is God. There are very few triunists sitting on a church pew, from my observations. I don't mind trinitarians, because I see that they have a different way of explaining the godhead, but when it comes down to it, they do believe Jesus is God. It is the triunists that really pose the problem, and who really believe in three distinct, and completely separate beings, or gods, and from that understanding I must distance myself.

Suffice it to say that while some of the trinitarian theology is used in the old hymns, they still are powerful and wonderful old songs.

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We use the song books to prop up the dilapidated pews

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Okaaaay.

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What else was the question asked for, then?

The large majority of trinitarian Christians absolutely affirm that Jesus is God.

For your reference, (just a couple that come to mind) :

"It is no doubt true, that God alone has the power and authority to forgive sins: but they are wrong in concluding that it does not belong to Christ, for He is God manifest in the flesh 1 Timothy 3:16)" ~John Calvin NT Commentary on Mark 2:1-12

"Thus we have all our good by Christ, who is God." ~Jonathan Edwards, God Glorified in Man's Dependence (sermon)

"He is not an 'under God' as Arian's suppose, but to all intents and purposes, supreme God."~ Jonathan Edwards, The Excellency of Christ (sermon)

"Although the word theos, God, is usually reserved in the New Testament for God the Father, nonetheless, there are several passages where it is also used to refer to Jesus Christ. In all of these passages 'God' is used in the strong sense to refer to the one who is the creator of heaven and earth, ruler over all. These passages include John 1:1,18 and 20:28, Romans 9:5, Titus 2:13, Hebrews 1:8 and 2 Peter 1:1.....It is enough to note that there are at least seven clear passages in the New Testament that explicitly refer to Jesus as God."~ Wayne Grudem, Bible Doctrine, pg. 236-237.

Trinitarian books are literally filled with strong declarations of Jesus' deity.

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When my wife and I lead our children in family devotions, we sing from a hymnal. These can be very special times, as for one, I know the presence and majesty of God I've felt when we are studying the Word and worshipping this way.

In the local assembly, we do not sing from a hymnal, but have a praise team and words on the wall from a projector. Admittedly, this form of worship has felt less impactful to me over the years, to the point, I'd rather not have music at all (notice I didn't say no singing).

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Basic curiosity, as a way to get to know people and what they are like?

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Heretic :heeheehee

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:heeheehee

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Yes, I agree.

Music is used as a tool used to usher in the presence of the Lord, but the problem is that too many who are involved in the music are more concerned about a show and a performance, and having their time in the spotlight, and too many in the congregation are enjoying the show, and no heartfelt praise or worship comes forth.

I have seen this many times. After the praise team has sung, and the choir has given their song, sometimes the pastor just beginning to sing an old hymn or song, will bring in a sweet presence of the Lord, that all the musical talent and ability could not do.

Going back to congregational singing, where you can actually hear people's voices raised in praise to the Lord is a powerful thing, and should be considered by those who really desire the moving and presence of the Lord in the service.

There is no one easy way or formula to entertain the presence the Lord, but at the root of it all, should be heartfelt praise and worship, and His Spirit will move in that arena. If a show or performance is all that is happening, with no heartfelt worship within the hearts of either the leaders or congregants, then it will profit little.

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I very much doubt that. I know the ultra-conservative mind. It witch hunts.

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Maybe it's you that's witch hunting? Seeing a witch when everyone else sees a normal old lady?

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Amen!

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Check the nature of the posts.

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This. ^^^^

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Your the only here that has found fault.