$16,000 Dog
 

Is this what the church is coming to?

http://youtu.be/8JIhCyYIMTU

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No. Men like him are the exception; not the rule.

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still; we have a lot of exceptions, it seems. I think even one with a following should be considered a Harbinger?

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It looked like he had quit a following.

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"the church" ?

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The new message is that it isn't the love of money that's the root of all evil, but the lack of it.

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harbinger? LOL. there have been men using the idea of religion as a method of personal enrichment, since the beginning of time.

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First of all, the "prosperity" preaching is old news. Seriously. It's been around for decades. Secondly, there will always be gullible people and men who abuse authority. However, I don't believe that the majority of [any denomination] pastors fall into that category. Therefore, it's a stretch to ask, "Is this what 'the church' is coming to?", as if the church as a whole or majority espouses the prosperity doctrine and flocks to charlatans. Most people have a general disdain for ministers who live flamboyantly excessive lives--not admiration.

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True; maybe I should have said "centuries." Catholicism, anyone? :rolleyes2

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This is a really messed up way of thinking. It's sad what he is teaching his kids. And where did this money come from? The pockets of his congregants?? He needs to tell them "You want to prosper like me? You need to do what I done! Get you a buncha people ta follow you and give you they money!"

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Folks let's try to stay on topic here....isn't a good dog worth 16 grand?

:D

He got played. I could get a dog for less than $100 that can do what he described. Why brag about stupidly overpaying someone for a dog?

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oh i agree--but in the old days, they got away with it by being more of a travelling show, i thought; it just strikes me as signifying when a nation that considers (considered) itself prosperous would even entertain these guys. They struck me as such, especially compared to other countries, which don't have them, at least to my recollection.

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It just goes to show that you don't have to be a good lookin person to fool people.

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I remember hearing of a pastor paying a lot of money for a good desk for the office because it was high quality. It would last long and not fall apart.

I learned later on that this was pretty much true for a lot of things. You get what you pay for...

But a 16k dog isn't gonna last any longer than a 100 dollar dog

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you know, we point at these guys, and mutter, me included; but what about the inventory of Solomon? Now that is OT, and i'm still frequently perplexed by some of the stories there--like, how to take them...was that inventory to show how much Solomon was blessed, or to show where his interests lie? I don't recall many 'qualifying' verses in those passages; multitudes of the nation starving or whatever...um, i guess all that wealth was taken from the kingdom...hmm. I also don't recollect any verses about him doing anything constructive for the public with the treasure?

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suckers. If folks don't have any more sense than that

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Looks like a Amway Convention.

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There are passing references in Ecclesiastes, if Solomon was its author, about how he spent his wealth.

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They were for warned befor they got a King what it would be like. But they said we want taxes. A pastor is not a King.

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The guy has a droopy mustache, what did you expect. :smack

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:lol touche`.
Seems like that ended in 'vanity?'

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Hmm, well, WE by and large follow that same scenario, in voting, participating in gubmint, etc--and i think we are reaping the culmination, and i quote, "...when this happens, I will not even hear your prayers for relief in that day."

True, strictly speaking; many parallels, tho, don't you think?

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Solomon was the King of Israel. Pastors are not Kings over a kingdom of sheep nor do they use car salesman tactics to get rich.

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How many of them give their last dollor as seed money expecting a great return, only when they can't make their own bills the very church that took all their money wouldn't help them? As a pastor I've had many times over the years had a elderly person feel like giving up because they couldn't give to the church and buy their prescriptions both. My reply was take care of your own needs first and left me know if you need my help...

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yes. that would be part of any grace-led pastor's ministry, surely.well, dedicated ones don't, surely. And even the prosperity preachers are able to rationalize their ministry; although one wonders how they would counsel the old lady :lol and, there is everything in between, i guess.

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Annnnnd shifty eyes. Looks like a shyster car salesman trying sell a 1986 Crown Vic .