I ask you to accept me
 

I was once Apostolic, as some of you know.
Now I am not, haven't been in awhile.
I didn't backslide into lesser forms of Christianity,
I went full on pagan, I honor the old gods and goddesses.
I will never proselytize, but I would like to take part.
With your permission, else I won't post again

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hmm, funny that you would show up now...from Pent to Pagan? wow. I am one of the local heretics, and they put up with me (i think most people here just have me on 'ignore' :lol ), but you have, in a sense, turned your back on God, One God...but then, Oneness types would say the same about Trinnies, prolly :lol

well, ntmy--i'm half-convinced that you are a figment, sent by God to test my acceptance level, and you won't be here in the 'morning' anyway! I think we have a (professed) pagan here already, anyway. Peace to you.

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JA - I knew you had left and wondered about you. As for me I have to believe that a pagan JA may still have more common sense than some of these here who call themselves Apostolic! Welcome back!

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Hmm. I remember you from way back. I'm trying to remember....were you an admin? A pastor??

Hey I left too, nine years ago now. I am a non-church goer except I have been fiddling around going here and there. I would like to be part of a church body but not sure if I will make it or not.

If I'm allowed here, I'm going to guess you will be too. ;)

Welcome!

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This is a widely varied arena of Apostolics, former Apostolics, and those who fall somewhere outside that realm - glad to have you on board :)

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Welcome!

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John I will never forget how sweet you all treated me....my memories are good ones...yes I do remember you posting somewhere cannot remember where you had left the church...I am sorry for whatever happened ...however my memories are good ones and I do hope where ever you are you can count me as a friend. Sister Alvear

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Why'd ya go and do something like that?

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This is a joke.

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any friend of Alvear's is a friend of mine :D

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2 Cor. 6:14-17

14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

If we accept you the Lord will reject us.

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ok now you bring up a good point; yet i do not feel rejected. If i 'accept' him, how? Imo, God could care less what you say you believe; He judges the heart, as evidenced by the production of fruit. I may not accept his belief system, and if he is offering up babies to Molech, then we will have a short friendship; but if his premises are revealed to be searching for a better way to love his neighbor, as compared to Western Christians--the largest arms dealers on the planet--then i don't feel qualified to point that finger, myself. I trust the Spirit will show me. I know unrighteousness when i see it.

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Nothing should be compared to Western Christians. Everything should be compared to the Apostolic writings.

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from your pov, sure. and i would agree that these are even valid, for you. but Christians at least represent that they have correctly defined and interpreted the apostolic writings; you are a Western Christian. As the believers go, so goes a nation. If My people, who are called by My Name, will humble themselves... which doesn't seem to be the official position yet, that humility part. The Harbinger shows me that your leaders are reading curses out of Isaiah verbatim, and pronouncing them over us. So, while we could agree all day on how to hold our mouths correctly in order to get 'saved,' Rome burns?

And we could also point at the Gov and say "they don't rep me," but this is another illusion--they perfectly rep us. Believers. God directs our leaders according to the believers in a nation.

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here's the thing, Mike--i spent the first half of my Christian life looking for perfect people, because that is what our interp of the Apostolic writings led me to do--i thought. So, i went through this long list of people; apostolics, pentecostals, pastors, teachers, friends; looking for perfect people to call friends, and have fellowship with. I never found any. Not one. And in the process, i discovered--much to my surprise, and chagrin--that i wasn't perfect, either; heck, i wasn't even close. But i was forgiven--that much i knew. If i but acknowledged my faults and sought forgiveness, there it was. Now, to you, that may sound like "acknowledged your sins before God, in your prayers..." which i started out with; but i was quickly convicted that while that might be the model, the reality is that i must do this with those that i had slighted in whatever way. And it didn't matter--to God--what their belief system was. If they called themselves pagan, and i slighted them, still i had to ask their forgiveness; actually, the moreso, if i wished to call myself Christ's rep. Then all the sudden i didn't need drugs anymore--the drugs i needed to make me feel ok as an 'Apostolic.'

Now, i have since discovered that that is because of the doctrine of Original Sin foisted upon us, which i have already talked with you about,
http://www.wikihow.com/index.php?tit...oldid=13622804
but i sure didn't know this at the time. So, Christ having come back to life, for me, i found it incumbent upon me to grasp what those verses you quote really mean, which for me at least is not what you imply, but rather the spiritual direction they point.

So please understand that for me at least, i no longer care if one calls themselves Apo, or Pent--but is a slave to a mortgage, say. (or worse yet--the church is mortgaged! :lol ) I no longer inquire--nor am i interested in--the answers to either of those; because it is that person's treatment of me--which will alter according to what they practice, rather than what they say they believe--that interests me now.

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I think we've been rejected by John Atkinson. ;)

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:lol gee i wonder why

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Finally, some Scripture.

"[H]onoring the old gods..." is a full admission to idolatry on part of the confessor.

If anyone doesn't think that doesn't matter, then what are you doing posting here or, if you are, claiming to be a Christian? Just go light a candle to Caesar and be done with it.

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To the OP,

Having already lived in that world for a number of years, in which I summoned, channeled, and was even occasionally possessed by the masters you now say you serve, I can only tell you:

You have exchanged hope and peace for misery and lawlessness.

You are going to meet a devil you wish you never knew existed, and there will be hell to pay.

Perhaps God will grant you repentance if you will but humble yourself. He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked; rather His pleasure is in the wicked's return unto Him (Ezekiel 18:23).

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I thought he was an atheist, or is that someone else??

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My 2 cents.......

No doubt you have been through some tough stuff in the
past few months...years? Most likely tested your faith to the limits.
Sometimes we break under the burdens and lose our way.
I will trust the Lord to guide you back to where you rightfully
belong.

The devil is a liar.

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i doubt even he sweated any blood...
well, he is now claiming to be a full-on pagan; my guess strictly for effect :lol

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Hidy Ho John, How've you been?

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He rejected us but wanted us to accept him?

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My goodness, give the man a break. He's probably not the first. :foottap

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What's up John? Glad to hear from you!!

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I mean no offense to the original poster nor am I throwing stones but I must agree with Michael on this one.

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We do not know The circunstances só it it better not to judge....

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Bump


How old? If you honor the old god, it's hard to find one any older than the creator of heaven and earth.


Jer. 10:10
But the LORD is the true God; he is the living God, the eternal King. When he is angry, the earth trembles; the nations cannot endure his wrath.


I saw a church sign today. It read:
"Feeling far from God? Who moved?


I'm confident our God & Saviour has great big wide arms ready to take you back and be your Lord....permanently.


Besides, what possibly could an individual receive back from "gods and goddesses" for "honoring them"?

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Is this the John Adkinson that was on GNC?

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Wow. whole lot for me to read. Firstly. Not a joke. Second, Sis Alvear, you are one of the most precious and wonderful people I ever met and I am still me. I didn't grow horns and hooves. The central message of the creed I follow says simply "An it harm none, do what you will."
Let it suffice I believe in God, just don't believe he is a single parent. Everything in the created universe has male and female components. Father God... Mother Goddess>
Everyone wants some drama to gossip about. This happened and that caused...
What if I, after years of feeling empty in church, decided that it was all bullcrap.
Every monotheistic religion is at its core about controlling people.
That is why I am a pagan. Well, beyond the fact the whole, earth, nature worship is fun and fulfilling.


BT, the Bible is a great literary work. It is full of allegory, but sorry, we evolved from other hominid species and the never was a global flood. so, throw as many "scriptures" as you want. They are what we used to call in my submariner days "waterslugs".

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Things are good, thank you for asking.

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Never rejected you, rejected your religion, a distinction made often.... "love the sinner hate the sin?"

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bump

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If I did, would I be here?

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Know some of these others, don't know you, nor am I familiar with what you describe. Sounds like you are talking about Satanism, not one of them.

could be you were involved in some dark things, in which case I am glad for what you have found.

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Yeah, one and the same, the hardcore uber-Pentecostal standards or death guy who realized he was hurting people more than helping them. Here saying sorry, I was wrong.

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Well, ain't this sumting! A long time ago, you banned me on GNC. The times they are a changing.:heeheehee

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Well, if you were being a jerk ya prolly deserved, if I was being a jerk shame on me. Past is past.

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Me? I've never been a jerk.:laffatu Enjoy your new found freedoms, but they won't last, never do.