Pastor Jim Cymbala said THIS?? WOW!
 

Pastor Jim Cymbala , pastor of the Brooklyn Tabernacle, said this in a recent blog....


WOW!! I cannot believe he said this!! He gets it!!

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Their music sounded like they always got it, IMO.

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Gets what?

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I am shocked that you are shocked that any Christian preacher would say this. You must really have a warped view of preachers outside of your little circle if you think what he said is unusual or strange.

My thoughts exactly. Originalist, come out from among them and" get it " that you aren't the only one with understanding.

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It's my understanding that Cymbala's father was a Jesus' name PCI minister. If I am wrong someone correct me.

I like Cymbala's messages. My favorite is "My House Shall Be Called A House of Prayer." I'm not surprised to hear him say that. His books are very good, I highly recommend them. The stories of people who come into Brooklyn Tabernacle and how it all started are really inspiring.

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:thumbsup

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You guys do know that Originalist was an ordained minister in a very large non-oneness organization before he joined the oneness ranks?


You know what, Cymbala's quote shocks me too. He juxtaposed his statement on the Name of Jesus with single, most recognizable anthem that celebrates the Trinity. That is noteworthy, from a oneness POV.

As for Cymbala,'s understanding, he'd see the chaos of some oneness worship services and condemn it as out of order, at least in the past he would have.

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I just wish I could have met the late Pastor David Wilkerson of Times Square Church in NYC before he passed. I enjoy listening to Pastor Cymbala's and Pastor David Wilkerson's sermons.

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You know...Im not sure he does...maybe

But I am inclined that they don't tremble because they hear a word. They tremble at the faith and authority of those that USE the name..not as a magic word but in authority.

It's God's power they fear. It's the church who have been given that power and the authority to use it, in Jesus name.

I see a lot of this among us OPs where we treat the name as a magic word instead of understand what that name means to the church and who that name represented (The savior, who by his death not only brought us salvation but released power and authority to the church)

Im not sure of what JC meant as I would need to see more context.

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I like that!

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That's why I object to teaching on Baptism in Jesus' that stresses almost solely the vocalization of the name instead of stressing submission to the authority of the One who bears that name.

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I saw Wilkerson in person on many occasions, but never even got to shake his hand. Check out my audios sermons on YouTube of Wilkerson when he preached at the JSBC chapel services 1984-88.

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Have you not read the debates I've had on here with Apostolic extremists? I just happened to like Pastor Jim's comment and thought it really meant something coming from a Trinitarian. If anything I was demonstrating (contrary to what guys like Lee Stoneking think) that the name of Jesus has the same power whether or not its invoked by a Trinitarian or Oneness believer.

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Uh, I will tell you what I just told another poster on this thread who knee jerk jumped to the same wrong conclusion about me that you just did,,,

Have you not read the debates I've had on here with Apostolic extremists? I just happened to like Pastor Jim's comment and thought it really meant something coming from a Trinitarian. If anything I was demonstrating (contrary to what guys like Lee Stoneking think) that the name of Jesus has the same power whether or not its invoked by a Trinitarian or Oneness believer.

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I thought that's what the doctrine of repentance did.

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I think repentance is something that is not focused on nearly enough in both old time Oneness Pentecostal circles and the neo Pentecostal circles.

Same thing with the fruit of the spirit.

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Amen. Real repentance is not only asking for forgiveness of our sins, but it will be about submitting our will to the will of God. Or as Originalist said "submission to the authority of the One who bears that name".

My comments were tongue in cheek... really. So, how do you feel about tattoos?

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Tattoos suck and they are ugly. We should put away childish things. I cannot call them "sin" in and of themselves, but I'll NEVER understand the fad.

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He's looking our way!!!!!

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Cymbala baptizes in "the name of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost in Jesus name"! Last year they had a baptismal when I visited.

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I have no problem with these words spoken at baptism. The one church that was not from a Oneness background that I was a part of in the last 30+ years baptized this way. The pastor realized the importance of invoking the name of Jesus at baptism and these words do that.