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Michael The Disciple 07-26-2014 05:22 AM

Interesting UPCI Photo From India
 
I am pleasantly surprised! Third row down last pic on the right.

http://www.upcindia.org/photo-galler...um=3&gallery=6

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 06:20 AM

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OK I would guess at what you are pleased with, but rather have you explain.

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 06:33 AM

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http://www.upcindia.org/wp-content/gallery/2012/15.jpg

I think I know where you were going with the other picture. But Mike the sister with the book is uncovered.

Michael The Disciple 07-26-2014 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1327494)

OK I would guess at what you are pleased with, but rather have you explain.

The women are practicing the commandment concerning head covering!

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1327498)
The women are practicing the commandment concerning head covering!

http://www.upcindia.org/wp-content/gallery/2012/15.jpg

I guess she is a commandment breaker?

Michael The Disciple 07-26-2014 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1327497)
http://www.upcindia.org/wp-content/gallery/2012/15.jpg

I think I know where you were going with the other picture. But Mike the sister with the book is uncovered.

That does not negate the fact the headcovering is generally being practiced.:highfive

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 06:36 AM

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http://www.upcindia.org/wp-content/gallery/2012/18.jpg

What is she thinking!?!

Another commandment breaker!

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 06:39 AM

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http://www.upcindia.org/wp-content/gallery/2012/3_0.jpg

Mike it looks like it's a kind of mixed bag and the rule of wearing a hijab isn't enforced.

Michael The Disciple 07-26-2014 06:43 AM

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Another UPCI Church in East India. This is encouraging.

http://www.upcnei.org/eng/index.php

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 06:44 AM

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http://hinduism.iskcon.org/img/tradition/women1.jpg

This is a picture of Queen Kunti one of the characters of the Mahabharata.

Mike, head covering is a normal thing among the Hindus.

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 06:46 AM

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http://hinduism.iskcon.org/img/tradition/women4.jpg

Here is Mirabai the devotee of Krishna.

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 06:49 AM

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http://theharekrishnamovement.files....2/ct03-097.jpg

Here is a Hare Krishna devotee with Prabhupada.

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 06:55 AM

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The dupatta is worn by many women in India whether they are Hindu or Christian, it is part of Indian traditions based in their ancient culture and not from Christianity or Islam.

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 07:03 AM

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Covering the head with a dupatta is done by the women in order to show respect.

Hindu women cover their head either in front of their elders also when they go to temple as devotees.

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 07:09 AM

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http://www.vedanta-seattle.org/rkma/...arada-Devi.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/IOgxNBWkY8j...3nTn2s6_90snkU

Here is the wife of Sri Ramakrishna, Sri Sarada Devi.

CC1 07-26-2014 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1327504)
http://hinduism.iskcon.org/img/tradition/women1.jpg

This is a picture of Queen Kunti one of the characters of the Mahabharata.

Mike, head covering is a normal thing among the Hindus.

That is what I was thinking. I am betting most of the women having a head covering is just a cultural thing and not something the UPCI work in India is teaching. Particularly since that would be a misunderstanding of the bible! LOL

n david 07-26-2014 09:13 AM

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I thought MtD was pointing out the girl in the praise team wearing a bifurcated lower garment.

Attachment 4544

FlamingZword 07-26-2014 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1327504)
http://hinduism.iskcon.org/img/tradition/women1.jpg

This is a picture of Queen Kunti one of the characters of the Mahabharata.

Mike, head covering is a normal thing among the Hindus.

We just can not allow the Hindus to outholy our Apostolic woman, we can do better than that.

From now on, I hereby decree that all Apostolic women shall wear burqas.
and to make sure we go above the Muslims, we shall require also our women to wear dark sunglasses, long sleeve dark gloves and wear dark long socks. lest anyone be tempted by their eyes, their hands or their feet. :happydance

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1327522)
I thought MtD was pointing out the girl in the praise team wearing a bifurcated lower garment.

Attachment 4544

Hey what's with all the guys being barefoot?

Instead of spending money on instruments, they should go out and get some PF Flyers.

Then they will really be ready to preach! :thumbsup

n david 07-26-2014 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1327526)

Hey what's with all the guys being barefoot?

Instead of spending money on instruments, they should go out and get some PF Flyers.

Then they will really be ready to preach! :thumbsup

Aren't Toms the trendy shoe with singers/musicians? And skinny jeans.

KeptByTheWord 07-26-2014 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1327493)
I am pleasantly surprised! Third row down last pic on the right.

http://www.upcindia.org/photo-galler...um=3&gallery=6

MTD, does your wife go along with your understanding of veiling?

Abiding Now 07-26-2014 11:18 AM

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Please explain. Thanks.

1Co 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

Michael The Disciple 07-26-2014 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1327535)
MTD, does your wife go along with your understanding of veiling?

My wife is obedient to the Apostolic teaching of the head covering.:highfive

Pressing-On 07-26-2014 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1327584)
My wife is obedient to the Apostolic teaching of the head covering.:highfive

Ephesians mentions submission and headship and doesn't mention the headcovering like Corinthians. Why is that?

Michael The Disciple 07-26-2014 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1327508)

The dupatta is worn by many women in India whether they are Hindu or Christian, it is part of Indian traditions based in their ancient culture and not from Christianity or Islam.

I was an Elder in a Church pastored by an Indian believer many years ago. He taught the headcovering from scripture. He was raised in the Ceylon Pentecostal Mission a very large Pentecostal org. found mainly in India. They teach it very strong from scripture not just because others do it.

Michael The Disciple 07-26-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1327587)
Ephesians mentions submission and headship and doesn't mention the headcovering like Corinthians. Why is that?

Ephesians also mentions the Holy Spirit but does not mention tongues? Why is that?

Michael The Disciple 07-26-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1327554)
Please explain. Thanks.

1Co 11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

Her hair is a covering provided by nature. Paul uses her hair as an illustration of the subject. The head covering he is promoting by the Holy Spirit is something that is done when one PRAYS OR PROPHESIES. 1 Cor 11:5.

A woman cannot take her hair off and put it back on when she prays or prophesies. His primary topic is veiling. The hair is just an example from nature...a secondary mention.

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1327588)
I was an Elder in a Church pastored by an Indian believer many years ago. He taught the headcovering from scripture. He was raised in the Ceylon Pentecostal Mission a very large Pentecostal org. found mainly in India. They teach it very strong from scripture not just because others do it.

Mike, others did do it first. It is part of their culture.

Praxeas 07-26-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1327494)

OK I would guess at what you are pleased with, but rather have you explain.

Are those the 70 wifes of Osama Bin Laden that Stoneking said converted?

Praxeas 07-26-2014 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1327498)
The women are practicing the commandment concerning head covering!

A LOT of women do that in India....it's cultural

Praxeas 07-26-2014 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1327588)
I was an Elder in a Church pastored by an Indian believer many years ago. He taught the headcovering from scripture. He was raised in the Ceylon Pentecostal Mission a very large Pentecostal org. found mainly in India. They teach it very strong from scripture not just because others do it.

They teach it from scriptures because it's already a part of their culture.

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1327592)
Her hair is a covering provided by nature. Paul uses her hair as an illustration of the subject. The head covering he is promoting by the Holy Spirit is something that is done when one PRAYS OR PROPHESIES. 1 Cor 11:5.

A woman cannot take her hair off and put it back on when she prays or prophesies. His primary topic is veiling. The hair is just an example from nature...a secondary mention.

Mike it isn't about taking something on and off, the Apostle is talking about headship. Hence the reason he brings in the issue of a man having uncut hair makes him look vile and disgusting. God isn't into napkins, or handkerchiefs covering the woman's head, and the man in the OT covered his head during a time of mourning. The sentence is clear....

1st Corinthians 11:15

But a woman, if she should have tresses of hair [a glory to her is it]; for the hair of the head INSTEAD OF a wrap is given to her.


Mike, this is simple and very plain, the uncut hair is given to the woman instead of the turban (περιβολαιου means to wrap around )

Yet, we still have the word αντί where w get the English word "anti" as in Antichrist. This word means instead of, or in the place of, meaning the hair is to be used instead of or in the place of the turban.

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1327596)
They teach it from scriptures because it's already a part of their culture.


:bacon :thumbsup

Michael The Disciple 07-26-2014 04:40 PM

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Apostolic "Pentecostal" never seemed to go beyond Oneness and Acts 2:38. To cover up the shallowness thereof they invent doctrines like the headcovering is the natural covering of hair. And that if a woman trims it she goes to Hell.

votivesoul 07-26-2014 07:11 PM

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I'm not going to argue the merits either way, but I will say this:

It is very Godly and beautiful to see the covering when embraced en masse.

I would much rather see the things given in the pics Michael provided, than the super-do's and flowers and what-not that many modern OP women embrace.

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1327627)
Apostolic "Pentecostal" never seemed to go beyond Oneness and Acts 2:38. To cover up the shallowness thereof they invent doctrines like the headcovering is the natural covering of hair. And that if a woman trims it she goes to Hell.

Mike you don't believe people go to hell, so stop the drama. :heeheehee

I offered the scripture break down, you deny.

So, does your wife wear a turban?

Also what do you do with the Greek word κατακαλυπτεται in verses 6-7?

Not inventing anything Mike, just looking at scripture.

https://img1.etsystatic.com/016/0/77...34543_9ick.jpg

This would be the turban found in 1st Corinthians 11:15

Yet, the other verses tend to lean more to something on this level....

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/...91_306x423.jpg

Monterrey 07-26-2014 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by praxeas (Post 1327594)
are those the 70 wifes of osama bin laden that stoneking said converted?

loving it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


bwahahahahahahahahahaha

Evang.Benincasa 07-26-2014 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1327594)
Are those the 70 wifes of Osama Bin Laden that Stoneking said converted?

I missed this, and yes it was funny. :highfive

KeptByTheWord 07-26-2014 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1327584)
My wife is obedient to the Apostolic teaching of the head covering.:highfive

In what way? Care to elaborate?

Praxeas 07-27-2014 02:32 AM

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http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-L9iu3xq1-o.../Addams008.jpg


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