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"We are the brink of the greatest revival the world has ever seen! God is going to pour out His Spirit like never before in the last days! God is bringing restoration and revival. Our churches are about to explode with growth, we need to start the buildings to house them now! Miracles, signs and wonders are about to explode and the five fold ministry is going to be restored."

And such is the rhetoric in certain circles of Pentecost. What are your thoughts on the prophesied "end time revival"?

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Well, they read dispensationalism in every news headline. Churches always see more growth when it looks like the world is going to end.

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Regardless of how one feels about "end time revival" the truth is that we do need to do a better job of fulfilling the great commission.

My pastor mentioned a sobering statistic this morning. In our town of a little over 100,000 people statistics show that on any given Sunday almost 70% of people are not in a church of any kind including non christian services such as Muslim, Hindu, etc.

So even running 1100-1200 people each Sunday is just a drop in the bucket when you look at the 70,000 people we need to reach who are not going to church.

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Agreed

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I get what your saying

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Anyone else? Is God going to pour out His Spirit in the days approaching His second advent in a greater way that he has previously? Is the five fold ministry and "Apostolic Authority" going to be restored?

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I wasn't aware that the five fold ministry was in need of being restored! I have never heard that opinion expressed before. Is that widely held or just the opinion of one preacher you heard?

Of course the rest of what you posted about, end time revival, I heard all of my life in the UPC.

God has never needed buildings to do his work. We don't need to worry about housing anything.

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God has been pouring out His Spirit since Acts 2

Revival is the product of a hungry people who are willing to sacrifice, pray, fast, get into the word and read the lost

Revival will never happen just because we believe it to be so. God may promise revival but the promise is contingent on our faith

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End time revival will take place along side end time apostasy. I'm Post-Trib. I believe the greatest revival will come in the midst of great tribulation.

And the notion that we "need" to begin building bigger buildings is carnal logic. An inflow of devoted believers will put in motion efforts to meet the body's needs.

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If I recall correctly "End Time Revival" was a huge theme in the UPC when I was a kid. Seems like I recall it form the late 60's and through the 70's.

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I have heard several in the main stream talk about a restoration of five fold ministry. Heard it for the last 5 or 6 years. I really bought into it when I first heard it...but now I feel like its already in operation the way it needs to be.

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The Holy Ghost was poured out at Pentecost. Does it need to happen again in order for revival to come? Do we already have everything available that we need to have revival or is God going to supercharge His Spirit and take us into a "new dimension" right before His return?

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The Bible clearly indicates a great falling away. Not so much an "endtime revival". I am also post trib. However, even if I was pre trib I would not believe today's church was exempt from persecution. The servant is not greater than his master. And it is a fact...persecution produces either comprimise or consecration. Consecration produces revival.

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Seems to be re-surfacing in kind of a finatical way.

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God has already done all that is necessary to save the world. Problem is, the world (humans) don't know who they are, and religion keeps trying to re-enact what he has already done.
Jesus died for all humanity "before the foundation of the world" before Adam declared his independence it was already "finished", the cure before the disease, that's how God works.
Now is the time to "preach the Good News" that all are already reconciled to God, believe it embrace it and enter into it!!
Even your faith adds nothing to the finished work, it is done, it only needs you to enter into it.
Don't be a homeless bum, with a 50 million dollar inheritance languishing in the bank. Don't remain lost, just because you forgot your home address!!

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hogwash

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CJ that still doesn't make a bit of sense. Everyone is saved, but they just don't know they are saved. Tell them that they all won running shoes but they don't have any feet to put in those running shoes? CJ so Charlie Mason is saved? But he just doesn't know it? It would make sense if you scrapped where Jesus said you will know the tree by its fruit. If all humanity is saved but just don't know they are saved then they aren't showing the fruit of their salvation. When they Judeans were free to leave Babylon by Cyrus, most didn't leave, while this didn't change them being Judeans it still separated them from what God had for them to return to the promise land.

Acts 2:38 asked the people to repent, Acts 10:48 Peter ordered those who received the Holy Ghost (they didn't have prior to his visit ) commanding them to be baptized in Jesus name. If what you believe is true then Peter, Paul, and the apostles, would of never baptized, laid hands on, or ordered anyone to do anything, they would of just told everyone that they are saved so everyone be happy.

CJ that doesn't even smell right. :heeheehee

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universalism

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Hallucinationism :heeheehee

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Yes and yes.

When God starts raising up "apostolic authority", you'll know it not just by the works of God which are done, but by their lifestyle. When individuals are prepared to live the life of the apostles, then God can entrust them with the power and authority of the apostles. Persecution, suffering, sacrifice, bearing in one's body the marks of the Lord Jesus Christ, forsaking all to follow Him: these are the hallmarks of apostleship.

No one will have to point out what an apostle looks like to you; you'll know it when you see one.

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Here's an interesting question...

What do we mean by "revival"?

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Was Jesus slain from the foundation of the world?? Yes, God had the cure even before the disease. Before Adam sinned, Jesus was already the Savior of the whole world.

You have no problem with Adam condemning the whole world, you believe that Adam and Eve's act of rebellion condemned every person born thereafter. Even before you or I sinned, ADAM condemned us. ONE man caused ALL to be condemned.

But you reject the truth, that JESUS' selfless ONE act of righteousness has as far reaching power and effect. Well, you are wrong, your repentance, all your righteous acts are filthy rags!! But the finished work of the cross has completely reversed the damage Adam did, whether you believe it or not.

I Cor. 15:21-22
For since death came through A man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through A man. FOR as in Adam ALL die, SO in Christ ALL will be made ALIVE.

I put my faith in Him, instead of all the religious dogmas and doctrines of men that 25,000+ religions can spew out. A weak watered down gospel has led to the cultural failure we see in the world today.

If you cannot acknowledge the inclusive scriptures in the Holy Bible, you are blinded by your beliefs, against the far reaching effects of the gospel. The scriptures that you post may be the appropriate response to the gospel but not the saving part.

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I did not have a choice in the matter when Adam sinned. Regardless of what I did I was always going to be a sinner. Jesus dies for everybody's sins. NOT just the people who agree with me. I made a choice to be a follower of Jesus.

Some people can only sleep better at night if they condemn their enemies to eternal torture. :foottap

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Likewise, but I do have a choice to accept that Jesus died our death and reconciled us ALL to God. And I do.

The religious dogmas that I practiced for decades left me empty and broken, powerless over fear and sin. Only the knowledge of and the embracing of the finished work of Christ has set me free from the clutches of the doctrines of men.

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Agreed:highfive

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Reconciled or will reconcile us ALL to God?

I would love for God to reconcile ALL to himself one day!!! :happydance

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There musts needs be a dramatic restoration of 5 fold ministry. One can search from sea to sea and hardly find a New Covenant minister. I don't mean just apostle and prophet. I mean also pastors and teachers.

The darkness among Christians is unreal. Yet there are no doubt millions who do desire the twin revelations of the spirit and the truth.

Yes there will be revival but not as we normally think of.

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Great post! The coming world wide persecution will cause many to fall away. Yet it will also bring forth the greatest move of God since Yeshua walked here among us.

We post tribs need to begin to point out the powerful things that will occur in the years before the coming of Christ.

The ministry of the two witnesses! Prophets preaching in sackcloth again! Smiting the earth with all plagues as often as they will! Oh how the world will rejoice when they are killed by the beast!

There will be the manchild....that great corporate manifestation of Jesus Christ! Daniel said "they that understand among the people shall instruct many". Their teaching will bring the millions of Christians out of darkness into the beautiful light of Christ and the gospel!

God will be using his trumpet judgments to kill millions of sinners in the earth. God will kill more sinners than the beast will kill saints. It will be total war between God and satan. He will open the earth to bring forth creatures out of the inside of the earth which will torment men making them wish they were dead.

In the midst of all the destruction and misery there will come forth an anointed angel (messenger) who will preach the everlasting gospel to all nations!

At last the full truth going forth to the nations! Yes Lord :yourock

Let us open our hearts to the things God has revealed in the book of the revelation of Jesus Christ!

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Amen and amen!

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Oh no! Looks like I have killed another thread.

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Michael your new name is Threadkiller!!!

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Then put your shoes back on.

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Every restoration/revival that I ever read or heard about began with a call for repentance. Repentance, the lost message of the Bible.

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But it does not end with repentance. Repentance is turning from sin/self and TO GOD. We need ministry that will point the people to perfection. THAT is the ministry of the future.

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I'm still working on that repentance (dying daily) stuff and will be happy when I can get passed that and move on to "perfection". :D

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No one is not acknowledging the scriptures which you posted, we are just not acknowledging how YOU use them.


Matthew 7:21

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that DOETH THE WILL of my Father which is in heaven.

So, with that being said, how can Jesus make this statement in light of your belief?

Isn't the verse talking about taking action in willingly following the directives of someone to enter the realm?

Again, CJ you are not allowing what you believe about scripture to interpret scripture? Or you just built a doctrine on the word "all?"

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The emphasis in context of THIS discussion (universalism) is with the words IN CHRIST.

At the resurrection of the dead all who are IN CHRIST will b e made alive.

Not everyone is IN CHRIST. Those who have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

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Heard a lot about a great end time revival. I really do not see it in scripture. I do see that there would be a falling away though