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Originalist 08-17-2014 01:38 PM

Brown ran at cop
 
http://www.ijreview.com/2014/08/1686...uson-shooting/

n david 08-18-2014 08:08 AM

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MB was shot six times, twice in the head

*Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York and current star of the HBO show "Autopsy," conducted the medical examination for the family.

While he claimed his findings did not "assign blame" or "justify" the shooting, he made the comment, "In my capacity as the forensic examiner for the New York State Police, I would say, ‘You’re not supposed to shoot so many times,’”

He's not a cop, he's an examiner who charges $10,000 to conduct an autopsy (which he waived this time). So his statement, "You're not supposed to shoot so many times," is an obvious biased statement for the family.

Some interesting facts about his findings...

Dorian Johnson, the other man who was with MB during the strong-arm robbery (and who apparently still has not been arrested for his role in the robbery or his outstanding warrant) claimed that he hid behind a car and watched as the officer shot MB in the back.

That's a lie, according to the examination.

All six bullet entry points were to the front of the body.

Get that? He wasn't shot in the back, as has been claimed by numerous statements in defense of MB.

Four bullets hit his arm, two were head shots.

The two head shots, according to Dr. Baden, were likely the last shots fired. One of the head shots pierced the top of MB's head -- "This one here looks like his head was bent downward,” he said, indicating the wound at the very top of Mr. Brown’s head. “It can be because he’s giving up, or because he’s charging forward at the officer."

This is an important discovery, because there's a cell phone video taken at the scene, in which someone claims that MB was walking away, then turned around and ran towards the cop.

^This statement was from the video at the scene, "Then the next thing I know he doubled back toward him cus - the police had his gun drawn already on him –"

"The police kept dumpin on him, and I’m thinking the police kept missing – he like – be like – but he kept coming toward him."

That matches the statement from a friend of Office Wilson, who stated that Wilson told him, "Darren’s first protocol is to pursue. So, he stands up and yells, 'Freeze!' Michael and his friend turn around. And Michael taunts him… And then all the sudden he just started bumrushing him. He just started coming at him full speed. And, so he just started shooting. And, he just kept coming. And, so he really thinks he was on something."

About these six shots. The attorney for the family, Crump, claims: “The sheer number of bullets and the way they were scattered all over his body showed this police officer had a brazen disregard for the very people he was supposed to protect in that community."

Let's be clear. Contrary to Crump, the bullets weren't "scattered all over his body." Dr. Baden says four bullets hit MB's right arm, and two hit MB's head. That doesn't sound scattered to me.

Now, I'm not a LEO, I'll be the first to admit I absolutely have no clue about LEO protocol. In my unlearned, untrained, ignorant opinion, the first four shots to the arm may have been to try and get this kid to stop charging. The final two shots to the head may have been desperation to stop this **6'4" 292 tank from attacking him. Again, the first reports state there was a confrontation in the police car and a shot was fired inside the car.

The pieces are beginning to come together, albeit very slowly.


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Truthseeker 08-18-2014 08:15 AM

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Bads things happen when you rush at the police that you already assaulted.

canam 08-18-2014 08:22 AM

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yep, yep ,yep we told ya so Sharpton

n david 08-18-2014 08:28 AM

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Unfortunately, at this point, even if there was a video clearly showing MB assaulting the officer, walking away and then turning back and running at him again before the officer fired and killed him....it wouldn't matter to the same people screaming for justice.

They don't want justice. They don't care about evidence or facts. They just want this white officer punished for killing MB. Even if it was in self defense. Even if there was a video showing the officer was justified in his actions.

Truthseeker 08-18-2014 09:02 AM

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When race gets involved you can forget about them wanting facts. When it becomes a black movement it is over.

Praxeas 08-19-2014 01:15 AM

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Nearly every time there's been a police shooting incident where someone is threatening a cop's life, they shoot until the man is down.

I want to ask him and anyone else, what what number does it become excessive? Is there a general rule? Is there a national average?

n david 08-19-2014 07:46 AM

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Quote:

The officer who killed Brown says the teenager rushed at him full speed in the moments before the shooting, according to an account phoned in to a St. Louis radio station and confirmed by a source with detailed knowledge of the investigation.

According to the version on KFTK, phoned in by a woman who identified herself as "Josie," the altercation on August 9 began after Officer Darren Wilson rolled down his window to tell Brown and a friend to stop walking in the street.

When Wilson tried to get out of his cruiser, Brown first tried to push the officer back into the car, then punched him in the face and grabbed for his gun before breaking free after the gun went off once, the caller said.

Wilson pursued Brown and his friend, ordering them to freeze, according to the account. When they turned around, Brown began taunting Wilson, saying he would not arrest them, then ran at the officer at full speed, the caller said.

Wilson then began shooting. The final shot was to Brown's forehead, and the teenager fell two or three feet in front of Wilson, said the caller, who identified herself as the officer's friend.

A source with detailed knowledge of the investigation later told CNN the caller's account is "accurate," in that it matches what Wilson has told investigators.
If this account is true, the shooting is justified. I'm 5'9" 165lbs. If I'm being rushed by a 6'4" 292lb dude who just assaulted me and grabbed for my gun, you bet I'd use my weapon to try and stop him from getting near me again.

I doubt a taser would've had much of a stopping effect on this guy.

Of course, this doesn't matter to the people in Ferguson who are protesting, nor likely to AG Holder. It wouldn't matter if MB's friend snitched and sided with the officer. It wouldn't even matter if there were multiple videos with audio showing MB was intent on harming the officer. Even further, if MB had a gun and was popping shots at the officer, and the officer returned fire and killed MB, THAT wouldn't even be justified in the eyes of the black community.

All that matters now is MB is dead, shot by a white officer.

In fact, no need to waste money on a trial by jury. AG Holder should just declare Wilson guilty as charged and have his New Black Panther Party buddies find Wilson, bring him to the center of Ferguson and lynch the guy.

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Originalist 08-19-2014 08:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1330899)
If this account is true, the shooting is justified. I'm 5'9" 165lbs. If I'm being rushed by a 6'4" 292lb dude who just assaulted me and grabbed for my gun, you bet I'd use my weapon to try and stop him from getting near me again.

I doubt a taser would've had much of a stopping effect on this guy.

Of course, this doesn't matter to the people in Ferguson who are protesting, nor likely to AG Holder. It wouldn't matter if MB's friend snitched and sided with the officer. It wouldn't even matter if there were multiple videos with audio showing MB was intent on harming the officer. Even further, if MB had a gun and was popping shots at the officer, and the officer returned fire and killed MB, THAT wouldn't even be justified in the eyes of the black community.

All that matters now is MB is dead, shot by a white officer.

In fact, no need to waste money on a trial by jury. AG Holder should just declare Wilson guilty as charged and have his New Black Panther Party buddies find Wilson, bring him to the center of Ferguson and lynch the guy.

Source Link


Therefore, the position of the DOJ is that white people have no rights that black people need to recognize.

Be afraid. Be very afraid. These people will put you in a FEMA camp when they can.

n david 08-19-2014 11:44 AM

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Officer Wilson suffered an "orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket." Yeah, MB was just holding his hands up, surrendering peacefully.

Quote:

A blowout fracture is a fracture of one or more of the bones surrounding the eye and is commonly referred to as an orbital floor fracture.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-c...al-blowout.jpg
I don't believe this is Wilson's actual scan...the pic says "Fig. 2 CT Scan" so I believe it's just included in the article to show what it looks like.

So here's a scenario: In the initial confrontation, MB hits Wilson so hard, he causes an orbital floor fracture. The MB starts walking away, but Wilson tries to make an arrest (likely now for assaulting an officer). MB then turns back and starts running towards Wilson, head down, arms slightly raised.

Tell me you wouldn't fear for your safety and fire your weapon at him.

The dude just caused a massive injury to Officer Wilson, and blacks expect him to do what? Run away? Let MB beat him down some more.

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n david 08-19-2014 11:46 AM

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Interestingly, the very last line of that article says, "Officer Darren Wilson left the state of Missouri last week."

canam 08-19-2014 02:43 PM

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you stop shooting when they stop twitching

Praxeas 08-19-2014 06:55 PM

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If all this is true, it won't mean squat to the majority of emotionally out of control

I blame the media and black leaders for much of that

Originalist 08-19-2014 09:24 PM

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Interesting Article
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Black-on-white crime in America

Article by: JASON LEWIS
Updated: September 14, 2013 - 4:29 PM

Let's take a run through the news and statistics you rarely hear mentioned.

When Daniel Patrick Moynihan zeroed in on the disintegration of the nuclear family as the root cause of African-American poverty and crime in the mid-1960s, the out-of-wedlock birth rate for black Americans was 25 percent.

Today, after a civil-rights revolution (culminating in the election of the nation’s first African-American president) and $15 trillion spent on a feckless war on poverty (the official poverty rate hasn’t budged), more than 70 percent of black babies are born out of wedlock.

Consequently, unemployment and poverty remain far higher for blacks than for the rest of Americans. More disturbing, however, is the elephant in the living room that no one in the public eye seems interesting in addressing — appalling levels of crime committed by young African-American males.

One reason the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin affair garnered so much attention was the unusual nature of a white man (“white Hispanic” according to CNN) allegedly accosting a black teen. Sadly, when it comes to interracial crime, the reverse is anything but rare. To wit:

• New York City law enforcement confirms that a 62-year-old man has died from injuries suffered at the hands of a suspect who declared he was “going to punch the first white man that I see.”

• Two women, aged 24 and 32, are gang-raped by a dozen youths in a Delaware park known for such brazen crimes.

• An 88-year-old veteran of World War II is brutally beaten to death with flashlights outside a Spokane, Wash., lodge by two men between 16 and 19 years of age.

• Three wannabe gang members, two of whom were black, shoot down Australian college student Chris Lane “for the fun of it.”

• St. Paul resident Ray Widstrand is nearly beaten to death via flash mob-style violence on the city’s chaotic East Side.

• A 13-year-old boy is brutally beaten by three other teens on a Florida school bus, all captured on video.

• Another 13-year-old is doused in gasoline and set on fire by perpetrators in Kansas City telling him, “You get what you deserve, white boy.”

• 22-year-old Jody Patzner is murdered in cold blood by three teens for his bicycle in north Minneapolis — with hardly a mention of the suspects’ race by authorities or local media.

These acts of unspeakable violence perpetrated by black offenders on white victims rarely get much media attention, for fear of “subjecting an entire group of people to suspicion,” as one well-known newspaper editor recently put it.

Yet they are no statistical anomaly. While most violent crime is indeed intrarracial, 26.7 percent of homicides where the victim is a stranger are interracial. And in 2008, the offending rate for blacks (24.7 offenders per 100,000) was seven times higher than the rate for whites (3.4 offenders per 100,000), according to the latest figures from the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS).

Accounting for population differences, whites are simply far more likely to be victims of interracial crime than blacks. That, of course, didn’t stop Jesse Jackson from telling the Los Angeles Times at the height of the Zimmerman frenzy that “targeting, arresting, convicting blacks and ultimately killing us is big business.”

The data, once again, suggest something quite different.

In the mid-1990s, the Center for Equal Opportunity analyzed 55,512 felony cases filed in state courts for the 75 largest counties, representing 37 percent of the U.S. population. The weighted data, taken from the BJS, revealed that juries actually acquit blacks at a higher rate than whites for 12 of the 14 types of crime studied — including murder, rape, robbery and assault. The only category that had a higher conviction rate for African-Americans was felony traffic offenses.

To be sure, poverty is still a significant problem in urban America, and a failed war on drugs does have a disproportionate impact on communities of color. But neither can fully explain the troubling trend in black criminal behavior that only genuine leadership — and a little honesty — can eventually solve.

But don’t expect that anytime soon. Acknowledging that a “gangsta culture” is responsible for greater self-inflicted wounds among young African-American males than the remnants of racial bias is especially problematic for those whose careers are built upon finding a racist under every bed.

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Jason Lewis is a nationally syndicated talk-show host based in Minneapolis-St. Paul and is the author of “Power Divided is Power Checked: The Argument for States’ Rights,” from Bascom Hill Publishing. He can be heard locally from 5 to 8 p.m. on NewsTalk Radio, 1130-AM, and at jasonlewisshow.com.

KeptByTheWord 08-20-2014 09:07 AM

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I'll say it again... if it had been a black cop who killed a white man... this story probably wouldn't even have made the evening news, much less national headlines...

Pressing-On 10-24-2014 10:47 AM

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Holder Should Be Held Accountable for Ferguson ‘Race-Baiting’

Amen! :thumbsup

Levin read from reports from the grand jury investigation that forensic evidence is consistent with, and eyewitness testimony backs up, claims that Officer Darren Wilson was acting in self-defense when he shot Michael Brown and contradicts earlier testimony that Brown was surrendering with his hands up when he was shot.

After reading a statement from the Justice Department that Holder was angry about leaks coming from the grand jury, Levin remarked “this is amazing to me. Did Holder say that when all the lies were being perpetrated against the American people?”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...n-Race-Baiting

Praxeas 10-24-2014 12:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1340475)
Holder Should Be Held Accountable for Ferguson ‘Race-Baiting’

Amen! :thumbsup

Levin read from reports from the grand jury investigation that forensic evidence is consistent with, and eyewitness testimony backs up, claims that Officer Darren Wilson was acting in self-defense when he shot Michael Brown and contradicts earlier testimony that Brown was surrendering with his hands up when he was shot.

After reading a statement from the Justice Department that Holder was angry about leaks coming from the grand jury, Levin remarked “this is amazing to me. Did Holder say that when all the lies were being perpetrated against the American people?”

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...n-Race-Baiting

He is complaining about Leaks?

They were demanding to be given all the information and now they are mad it's coming out?

Pressing-On 10-24-2014 01:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1340491)
He is complaining about Leaks?

They were demanding to be given all the information and now they are mad it's coming out?

Yea, amazing isn't it?

I think I am more disappointed that TD Jakes jumped so quickly on the racist bandwagon attending the funeral.

n david 10-24-2014 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1340493)
Yea, amazing isn't it?

I think I am more disappointed that TD Jakes jumped so quickly on the racist bandwagon attending the funeral.

When in Rome....

Jakes tries to appeal to the masses. The masses at the funeral were of the opinion this was a racial incident. No way Jakes would get a backbone to tell the truth of what needed to be said.

Pressing-On 10-24-2014 04:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1340528)
When in Rome....

Jakes tries to appeal to the masses. The masses at the funeral were of the opinion this was a racial incident. No way Jakes would get a backbone to tell the truth of what needed to be said.

His presence confirms that. Totally worthless as an honest Christian, IMO. I am still mad he was there. Not that I listen to him, but he represents a huge black population and he should have stood taller than Al Sharpton. I was disgusted he was present.

Praxeas 10-24-2014 07:31 PM

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That's the problem with leadership. They aren't really leading

Whoop Harted 10-24-2014 08:45 PM

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That will teach that officer to assault another man's fist so many times with his eye!!!

Bad cop, no doughnuts!

Pressing-On 10-29-2014 08:09 AM

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Ben Shapiro: The Myth or The True Story of Michael Brown, Gentle Giant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMSO0CXnYtE

KeptByTheWord 10-29-2014 12:09 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1341261)
Ben Shapiro: The Myth or The True Story of Michael Brown, Gentle Giant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMSO0CXnYtE

Facts are always ignored by those who use lies to propagate their agenda. Thanks for sharing this video PO!

Pressing-On 10-29-2014 12:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1341324)
Facts are always ignored by those who use lies to propagate their agenda. Thanks for sharing this video PO!

You are welcome and so true! They don't want the evidence. It doesn't fit into their narrative.

Pressing-On 10-29-2014 12:33 PM

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Here, Holder is just mad that it proves he is a racist and has incited the population for that very reason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l7MzZcJVzQ#t=31


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