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kclee4jc 08-19-2014 11:06 AM

Largest Apostolic Church in the US
 
Does anyone know what the largest Apostolic Church in the United States is? By Apostolic I mean teaching the essentiality of the Acts 2:38 New Birth experience.

I personally do not know of a church larger than FPC at North Little Rock.

Just curious.

D.J.Lankford 08-19-2014 11:15 AM

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St. Louis MO General Conference? :thumbsup

Abiding Now 08-19-2014 02:14 PM

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Truth Tabernacle Fresno, CA.

canam 08-19-2014 02:29 PM

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clc in Stockton, calvary in Indianapolis ,Alexandria La./mangun ? what does fpc run usually ?

D.J.Lankford 08-19-2014 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1330969)
Truth Tabernacle Fresno, CA.

Awesome church there!

kclee4jc 08-19-2014 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1330969)
Truth Tabernacle Fresno, CA.

Yes definitely awesome church...do you know how many they have and who is pastoring now?

kclee4jc 08-19-2014 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by canam (Post 1330975)
clc in Stockton, calvary in Indianapolis ,Alexandria La./mangun ? what does fpc run usually ?

Someone posted a while back over 2500 in all three services. I have a friend that goes there and he said it was over 2000.

Abiding Now 08-19-2014 03:15 PM

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I think the church Steve Epley pastors is the largest in Racene.

MawMaw 08-19-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1330935)
Does anyone know what the largest Apostolic Church in the United States is? By Apostolic I mean teaching the essentiality of the Acts 2:38 New Birth experience.

I personally do not know of a church larger than FPC at North Little Rock.

Just curious.

If you are meaning largest church building,
I would have to agree that I believe FPC of
North Little Rock would be it! :nod

D.J.Lankford 08-19-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1330984)
Yes definitely awesome church...do you know how many they have and who is pastoring now?

Pastor Timothy Lacky is the Pastor and if i'm not mistaken they run about 600 plus. I recommend anyone that is not in church in that area attend FTC, along with their daughter works in the same area.

CC1 08-19-2014 08:09 PM

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When a similar question came up on a different thread not long ago I think many of the ones mentioned here that are UPC and thought of as the largest all had reports that indicated they actually were running 1500 or less.

I think there was one church in Florida that may have been around 2,000 but I don't recall the church or pastors name. It was not one of the "blue blood" UPC churches everyone had heard of for decades.

If FPC LR really does run 2000-2500 then I would think they are either the largest or in the top two or three. At least within predominately white churches. I have no idea if there are any PAW churches that are still 3 stepper / Oneness ones that are as big or bigger.

Steve Epley 08-19-2014 08:23 PM

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There are some very large black Apostolic congregations. Apostolic Church of God Chicago, Greater Grace Detroit, Grace Apostolic Indy, Greater Refuge Harlem, Bibleway DC, many others.

CC1 08-19-2014 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1331022)
There are some very large black Apostolic congregations. Apostolic Church of God Chicago, Greater Grace Detroit, Grace Apostolic Indy, Greater Refuge Harlem, Bibleway DC, many others.

Are they still Acts 2:38 three stepper churches or have they "gone charismatic" and become one stepper and trinitarian tolerant like so many of us exUPCers?

Steve Epley 08-19-2014 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1331026)
Are they still Acts 2:38 three stepper churches or have they "gone charismatic" and become one stepper and trinitarian tolerant like so many of us exUPCers?

Standard wise with the exception of Refuge are gone. At least 3 of these still preach the new birth message.

kclee4jc 08-19-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1331028)
Standard wise with the exception of Refuge are gone. At least 3 of these still preach the new birth message.

So of the churches that still hold a standard do you think FPC NLR would be the largest?

kclee4jc 08-19-2014 09:09 PM

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By the way.....excellent teaching at campmeeting Bro Epley!

Steve Epley 08-19-2014 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1331029)
So of the churches that still hold a standard do you think FPC NLR would be the largest?

Really I don't know? It is the largest I know. Some congregations have daughter works which might match or eve surpass that number?

Steve Epley 08-19-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1331030)
By the way.....excellent teaching at campmeeting Bro Epley!

You are kind thanks.

Esphes45 08-20-2014 08:36 AM

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1 Corith. 1:10 is all I have to say. God help us.

Jermyn Davidson 08-20-2014 03:05 PM

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Does the church that Grace Jones' brother pastors still count?

:search

houston 08-20-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Esphes45 (Post 1331065)
1 Corith. 1:10 is all I have to say. God help us.

Amen!

allstate1 08-20-2014 07:11 PM

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Alexandria averages around 2500. West Monroe runs around 1200. Denham Springs around 1000. All in Louisiana.

allstate1 08-20-2014 07:19 PM

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Sanctuary size. I'm not sure . I know that Woodlawn in Columbia Ms has 1300 stadium seats. And I think Alexandria seats 5000.

Praxeas 08-20-2014 07:28 PM

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Hear tell the smallest church is in a little town called Uber in Connecticut. They call themselves "The UberCons"

canam 08-20-2014 07:50 PM

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groooan !

CC1 08-20-2014 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 1331140)
Alexandria averages around 2500. West Monroe runs around 1200. Denham Springs around 1000. All in Louisiana.

If POA averages around 2500 then they must have a lot of folks in classrooms or offsite locations. There is not anywhere near 2500 people in their sanctuary on Sunday mornings or Sunday nights when I have watched their webcast.

bishoph 08-20-2014 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 1331141)
Sanctuary size. I'm not sure . I know that Woodlawn in Columbia Ms has 1300 stadium seats. And I think Alexandria seats 5000.

The Rock Church Sacramento, CA seats just over 5000 and from what I understand they are averaging around 2000

There is a Spanish UPC work in the LA area that reports weekly avg of approx. 5000. (from what I understand they are NOT all under one roof each week, but they do come together once a month or quarter to have a combined service.)

kclee4jc 08-21-2014 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bishoph (Post 1331169)
The Rock Church Sacramento, CA seats just over 5000 and from what I understand they are averaging around 2000

There is a Spanish UPC work in the LA area that reports weekly avg of approx. 5000. (from what I understand they are NOT all under one roof each week, but they do come together once a month or quarter to have a combined service.)

I did not know that TRC was that large! Thats awesome!

houston 08-21-2014 02:13 PM

What was the point of this thread?

allstate1 08-21-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1331167)
If POA averages around 2500 then they must have a lot of folks in classrooms or offsite locations. There is not anywhere near 2500 people in their sanctuary on Sunday mornings or Sunday nights when I have watched their webcast.

I was going by Sunday School Reports from around 3 years ago.

Praxeas 08-21-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1331206)
What was the point of this thread?

Chest thumping.

Personally I don't see large churches as a good thing. Id rather see several smaller to medium size churches in an area under a bishop

allstate1 08-21-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1331206)
What was the point of this thread?

Curiosity

kclee4jc 08-21-2014 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1331220)
Chest thumping.

Personally I don't see large churches as a good thing. Id rather see several smaller to medium size churches in an area under a bishop

You are wrong.

kclee4jc 08-21-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1331206)
What was the point of this thread?

I have heard a couple people make the comment that the North Little Rock Church is the largest Apostolic Church they knew of and I was curious to whether or not there was a larger Apostolic Church in the US and if so which was the largest.

I clarified what I meant by Apostolic because I know the definition is varies person to person. Not trying to prove anything.

Esphes45 08-21-2014 07:52 PM

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I truly believe if preachers/pastors/bishops/elders whomever is over a flock of God's people were following Jesus, THEY WOULD SEEK UNITY (UNIFICATION) OF THE CHURCH.There should be 1 Apostolic Church with many locations. (1 Corith. 1:10 & Acts 2:44) Similar to the Jehovah Witnesses Kingdom Halls. But because there is so much division, greed, pride and strife, you have what you have now; a church on every corner, each thinking they have their personal key to the kingdom. Mark 16:15 does not mean we have to be apart AND different. Galatians 2:9 proves that.

My humble opinion.

FlamingZword 08-22-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Esphes45 (Post 1331256)
I truly believe if preachers/pastors/bishops/elders whomever is over a flock of God's people were following Jesus, THEY WOULD SEEK UNITY (UNIFICATION) OF THE CHURCH.There should be 1 Apostolic Church with many locations. (1 Corith. 1:10 & Acts 2:44) Similar to the Jehovah Witnesses Kingdom Halls. But because there is so much division, greed, pride and strife, you have what you have now; a church on every corner, each thinking they have their personal key to the kingdom. Mark 16:15 does not mean we have to be apart AND different. Galatians 2:9 proves that.

My humble opinion.

I whole agree with your post, unfortunately we are actually going in the opposite direction. the Apostolic movement keeps on splitting up into more and more different groups. The split is usually over some insignificant issue.

It is sad, but it is the current state of affairs.

Michael The Disciple 08-22-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1331375)
I whole agree with your post, unfortunately we are actually going in the opposite direction. the Apostolic movement keeps on splitting up into more and more different groups. The split is usually over some insignificant issue.

It is sad, but it is the current state of affairs.

True instead of gaining in matters of foundation doctrine and a new movement (group) formed its over who gets to RULE.

FlamingZword 08-22-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1331384)
True instead of gaining in matters of foundation doctrine and a new movement (group) formed its over who gets to RULE.

What sad state of affairs, from what I hear the UPCI is fracturing.
I never liked that the UPCI was controlled by the Ultra-cons but I figure that they would eventually lose power and a more middle of the road leadership would take over.
But it seems the Ultra-cons are tightening their control even harder and they are squeezing people out. In their seal for a pure church they are uprooting a whole bunch of wheat along with the tares.

Sister Alvear 08-22-2014 03:56 PM

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I want to be saved....I have never liked to put people into catagories or judge people...I try to live what I believe and reach out to all I can reach out to and be a friend...

FlamingZword 08-22-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1331416)
I want to be saved....I have never liked to put people into catagories or judge people...I try to live what I believe and reach out to all I can reach out to and be a friend...

Well sister the ultra cons are doing quite a number on the UPCI.

They want to purify the church so much that anyone who slightly disagrees with them is given the boot.

They only want people who toe their line without any questions.

Pretty sad if you ask me.


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