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Charnock 08-24-2014 10:26 PM

An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Steve,

I am concerned that you love your message more than you love God.

On multiple occasions over the years you have started the "All Trinitarians are Lost" thread. Each time you address the issue you restate the title along with little smileys. What is that about? I completely disagree with your belief that all trinitarians are lost but if I did agree I wouldn't smile, laugh or rejoice at the thought of someone being lost.

You have repeatedly stated that you would not allow someone with a beard in your church. That they may go to Heaven, but they will have to do so from somewhere other than the church you lead. Where do you get the authority to make such a ridiculous statement? You seem to hold this position as a badge of honor. As if the fact that the men of your church are femininely smooth-faced is a source of pride. I worry that you love your standard more than souls, and truth.

Your comments in the thread about Steve Pixler affirm my belief that you have no love in your heart for others.

Steve, you have been given free rein on this forum for as long as it has existed. You are apt to rebuke others, label them in the most hateful way imaginable, and then retreat when you are not treated with respect. You are held to a different standard than others.

None of that exempts you from truth.

Steve, you need to repent. You need to call Pixler and ask for forgiveness. You need to make a public apology for all of the hurts you've heaped on those with whom you disagree. You are not doing the work of God. You and your online cohorts have done more to damage conservative Pentecostalism than Pixler and other "compromisers" could ever dream.

Respectfully,

Ed

shag 08-24-2014 10:31 PM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Could you not have pm'd him this? And let just him 'open the letter'.

Evang.Benincasa 08-24-2014 10:33 PM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1331884)
You are apt to rebuke others, label them in the most hateful way imaginable, and then retreat when you are not treated with respect. You are held to a different standard than others.

This coming from a man who called the man he is correcting a "sick puppy?"

Charnock 08-24-2014 10:41 PM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1331887)
This coming from a man who called the man he is correcting a "sick puppy?"

Keep it up, EB.

I am so thankful for the online demeanor of men like you and Steve Epley. With every caustic post you prove the content of your heart and fruit of your message. You win more to freedom than legalism, to my belief system instead of yours.

Again, thank you.

Evang.Benincasa 08-24-2014 10:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1331890)
Keep it up, EB.

I am so thankful for the online demeanor of men like you and Steve Epley. With every caustic post you prove the content of your heart and fruit of your message. You win more to freedom than legalism, to my belief system instead of yours.

Again, thank you.

Ed, your not caustic? You called the man a sick puppy.

By all means Ed, spoon feed, show me how your behavior is a step up?

You were angry on the other forum, and you are clicking it up a notch here.

Charnock 08-24-2014 10:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1331892)
Ed, your not caustic? You called the man a sick puppy.

By all means Ed, spoon feed, show me how your behavior is a step up?

You were angry on the other forum, and you are clicking it up a notch here.

You may use those labels at will, but they don't fit. Also, you seem fixated on "the other forum."

Let it go. I did years ago.

Evang.Benincasa 08-24-2014 10:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1331893)
You may use those labels at will, but they don't fit. Also, you seem fixated on "the other forum."

Let it go. I did years ago.

I may use those labels?

Ed you are the one in axe swinging mode here.

The other forum is where your flower started to bloom, hence I bring it up.

Praxeas 08-24-2014 11:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1331890)
Keep it up, EB.

I am so thankful for the online demeanor of men like you and Steve Epley. With every caustic post you prove the content of your heart and fruit of your message. You win more to freedom than legalism, to my belief system instead of yours.

Again, thank you.

You're posts are as caustic..in fact they are more so. You might have changed doctrinally but you are an Ultra Con at heart.

Steve Epley 08-24-2014 11:09 PM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Not going to dignify your post with a reply. Have a nice eternity.

Charnock 08-24-2014 11:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1331899)
Not going to dignify your post with a reply. Have a nice eternity.

There you have it.

I absolutely will have a nice life and eternity.

By the way, you did dignify my post with a reply.

Charnock 08-24-2014 11:33 PM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1331898)
You're posts are as caustic..in fact they are more so. You might have changed doctrinally but you are an Ultra Con at heart.

I have never, one time, rejoiced at the thought of someone going to Hell.

There is nothing more caustic than that.

God may not be willing that any should perish, but Steve is. And he's not just willing, he's elated.

Charnock 08-24-2014 11:36 PM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Does anyone deny that the opening post accurately portrays Steve's record?

Charnock 08-24-2014 11:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1331899)
Not going to dignify your post with a reply. Have a nice eternity.

Let's discuss this.

How many posters pretend to know someone's eternal destiny?

How many would make this sort of sarcastic and mean-spirited statement about someone's soul?

How many would be so flippant about Heaven and Hell?

houston 08-24-2014 11:40 PM

Amen to the OP. Though, it should have been dealt with privately first...

Charnock 08-24-2014 11:44 PM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1331898)
You're posts are as caustic..in fact they are more so. You might have changed doctrinally but you are an Ultra Con at heart.

Steve plays God, pretends as though he determines someone's eternal destiny, curses other preachers, and laughs in the process.

I reject your statement.

It's not true.

Charnock 08-24-2014 11:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1331907)
Amen to the OP. Though, it should have been dealt with privately first...

His posts are not private.

He publicly declared his sentiments.

He publicly slandered Steve Pixler.

houston 08-25-2014 12:12 AM

Sometimes you have to take the higher road.

Charnock 08-25-2014 12:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1331915)
Sometimes you have to take the higher road.

The "higher road" is refusing to slander and curse another minister on a public forum.

Sister Alvear 08-25-2014 06:33 AM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Bro. Epley is one Of The finest christains I know....he may be plain in his speech but he lives what he preaches. And no I gain nothing he supports others in Brazil.

houston 08-25-2014 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1331920)
Bro. Epley is one Of The finest christains I know....he may be plain in his speech but he lives what he preaches. And no I gain nothing he supports others in Brazil.

this is a saddening statement. Living what he preached has nothing to do with his attitude.

Sister Alvear 08-25-2014 08:16 AM

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sorry....you feel that way...his statement was very strong and very hard...however many of the statements of our Lord were hard....I do not think he has an attitude. He may come across rough and whatever but if my word means anything he is a kind gentle soul...and I do not agree with him on several things but he is NOT UNKIND. I know him personally and have known him and his wife's family for many many years.

Sister Alvear 08-25-2014 08:18 AM

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By nature I am a tender person so if someone said something that strong to me I might cry...lol...however we are all different. We must strive to understand one another.

Abiding Now 08-25-2014 09:03 AM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Poor Steve.

crakjak 08-25-2014 09:46 AM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1331884)
Steve,

I am concerned that you love your message more than you love God.

On multiple occasions over the years you have started the "All Trinitarians are Lost" thread. Each time you address the issue you restate the title along with little smileys. What is that about? I completely disagree with your belief that all trinitarians are lost but if I did agree I wouldn't smile, laugh or rejoice at the thought of someone being lost.

You have repeatedly stated that you would not allow someone with a beard in your church. That they may go to Heaven, but they will have to do so from somewhere other than the church you lead. Where do you get the authority to make such a ridiculous statement? You seem to hold this position as a badge of honor. As if the fact that the men of your church are femininely smooth-faced is a source of pride. I worry that you love your standard more than souls, and truth.

Your comments in the thread about Steve Pixler affirm my belief that you have no love in your heart for others.

Steve, you have been given free rein on this forum for as long as it has existed. You are apt to rebuke others, label them in the most hateful way imaginable, and then retreat when you are not treated with respect. You are held to a different standard than others.

None of that exempts you from truth.

Steve, you need to repent. You need to call Pixler and ask for forgiveness. You need to make a public apology for all of the hurts you've heaped on those with whom you disagree. You are not doing the work of God. You and your online cohorts have done more to damage conservative Pentecostalism than Pixler and other "compromisers" could ever dream.

Respectfully,

Ed

Steve has not had free rein on this forum, he has been taken to task many, many times. He just got a thin skin, and has a very hard time changing and growing in the truth.

kclee4jc 08-25-2014 09:59 AM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
A place where genuine men of God are disrespected over and over is not a place (in my opinion) for ANY true Christian but most certainly not a place for me. There may be a few posters here that I highly esteem and a few others that I have acquired a certain level of respect for over time but digging through the filth and contempt is not worth it. Unfortunately it has taken too long for my hard head to let this sink in.

houston 08-25-2014 10:07 AM

Bye dude.

Will miss ya.

kclee4jc 08-25-2014 10:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1331959)
Bye dude.

Will miss ya.

You can text me whenever you want Houston.

Charnock 08-25-2014 10:13 AM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1331958)
A place where genuine men of God are disrespected over and over is not a place (in my opinion) for ANY true Christian but most certainly not a place for me. There may be a few posters here that I highly esteem and a few others that I have acquired a certain level of respect for over time but digging through the filth and contempt is not worth it. Unfortunately it has taken too long for my hard head to let this sink in.

Don't let Steve's posts about Pixler drive you away.

kclee4jc 08-25-2014 10:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1331962)
Don't let Steve's posts about Pixler drive you away.

I don't know you and I am not fighting with you.

kclee4jc 08-25-2014 10:17 AM

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I notice there are six guests watching this thread. That always intimidates me. If by any chance someone may know me let it be known that I repent of the day that I joined this forum.

n david 08-25-2014 10:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1331965)
If by any chance someone may know me let it be known that I repent of the day that I joined this forum.

:drama

n david 08-25-2014 10:33 AM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1331958)
A place where genuine men of God are disrespected over and over is not a place (in my opinion) for ANY true Christian but most certainly not a place for me.

It is sad that a few have posted scriptures and made comments against SP. Oh, wait, your out in this is that he no longer meets your definition of "genuine man of God."

:smack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Charnock (Post 1331962)
Don't let Steve's posts about Pixler drive you away.

:thumbsup

AR Pastor 08-25-2014 10:43 AM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
I dare say that there is probably not many here worth to polish bro. Epley's shoe. There is not a finer Christian gentleman any where. He speaks the truth and for some they cannot take the truth

FlamingZword 08-25-2014 10:51 AM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AR Pastor (Post 1331974)
I dare say that there is probably not many here worth to polish bro. Epley's shoe. There is not a finer Christian gentleman any where. He speaks the truth and for some they cannot take the truth

I would not mind polishing bro. Epley's shoe and also Brother Pixler's shoe, but I am sure I am not worthy.

houston 08-25-2014 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1331960)
You can text me whenever you want Houston.

do you have my new number?

kclee4jc 08-25-2014 11:03 AM

Re: An Open Letter to Steve Epley
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AR Pastor (Post 1331974)
I dare say that there is probably not many here worth to polish bro. Epley's shoe. There is not a finer Christian gentleman any where. He speaks the truth and for some they cannot take the truth

Brother Epley is a good man.

n david 08-25-2014 11:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1331984)
Brother Epley is a good man.

But Brother Pixler kills kittens.

kclee4jc 08-25-2014 11:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1331987)
But Brother Pixler kills kittens.

Thats terrible....I didnt know that! I'm afraid its much worse than i thought..

Jason B 08-25-2014 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AR Pastor (Post 1331974)
I dare say that there is probably not many here worth to polish bro. Epley's shoe. There is not a finer Christian gentleman any where. He speaks the truth and for some they cannot take the truth

Is this the "apostolic" version of the little gods doctrine?

Steve Epley is given far more grace than he ever gives anyone else. Despite my comments, Charnock's and others I don't recall anyone ever once saying he was going to hell.

Nevertheless Steve Epley is QUICK to send people to hell, even guys like myself (I have a oneness theology and baptize in JN), Charnock, and apparently Steve Pixler. To say nothing of people who actually are trinitarians, with smilies, exclamation marks, and a callousness rarely seen outside of radical Islam.

And you say many here are not worthy to polish his shoe?! Please.

He's a man. A brother. I wish no ill will upon him, but I do hope God opens his eyes to his spiritual pride. But you guys who prop him up as a hero are just enabling his hate of other Christians.

Jason B 08-25-2014 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kclee4jc (Post 1331958)
A place where genuine men of God are disrespected over and over is not a place (in my opinion) for ANY true Christian but most certainly not a place for me. There may be a few posters here that I highly esteem and a few others that I have acquired a certain level of respect for over time but digging through the filth and contempt is not worth it. Unfortunately it has taken too long for my hard head to let this sink in.

Didn't you post like 20 scriptures against Steve Pixler on the other thread in agreement with Steve Epley that every one should leave his church?

All taken out of context.

Then fail to answer a simple question about what sin SP is guilty of?

So apparently you lament Steve Epleys treatment but seem to have no qualms treating SP as a heathen.


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