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FlamingZword 08-28-2014 11:06 AM

Why I love AFF
 
Besides the fact that they have not kicked me off (unlike some Trinitarian forums, where I am persona non grata)

Well I love it because I find brethren across the world who believe like I do.

I also love it because I find brethren who do not believe like I do, their different opinions regarding certain doctrines, forces me to study more carefully the scriptures and see if my doctrines can withstand scrutiny.

I have no fear of anyone questioning anything I believe, I have no sacred cows, for the truth never fears questions, the truth stands when everything else falls, and I am not afraid of anyone questioning any of my beliefs.

I love AFF for most of the members are not afraid to question just about any doctrine. At the end of time only truth will stand, everything that is false or wrong will fall by the wayside.

I stand upon the Bible as the truth, I only accept the Bible as the text for truth. if it is not in the Bible, then I simply refuse to accept it as pure truth.
my motto has always been The Bible, the Bible, the Bible and only the Bible.
So if you are going to challenge any of my beliefs, you better know your Bible.

I love AFF and I hope it remains an open forum for Apostolics of every stripe and denomination.

Jermyn Davidson 08-28-2014 11:46 AM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Yeah AFF does treat those Trinitarian Apostolics rather kindly.

houston 08-28-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1333071)
Yeah AFF does treat those Trinitarian Apostolics rather kindly.

all Trinitarians are going to hell. Yes, very kind.

Jermyn Davidson 08-28-2014 12:42 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1333082)
all Trinitarians are going to hell. Yes, very kind.

Well, from their point of view, would it be kind to not sound the warning?

Disciple4life 08-28-2014 12:44 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1333056)
Besides the fact that they have not kicked me off (unlike some Trinitarian forums, where I am persona non grata)

I love it when people start speaking Latin. Oh yeah and the rest of what you said was cool to. :yourock

CC1 08-28-2014 02:04 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
FlamingZword,

The kind words are appreciated. The purpose of AFF is to allow a lot of diverse viewpoints to be expressed and discussed with Christian love and ethics.

That last part is where people sometimes fail. No matter how far apart folks are in their opinion they need to learn to discuss it without personal attacks and crude language.

Abiding Now 08-28-2014 02:44 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
AFF is a fun place. Where eles could you see Steve Epley and Luke posting together.

KeptByTheWord 08-28-2014 07:32 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
I enjoy AFF, as it is a chance to interact with other people coming from the same basic backgrounds, but with as varied belief systems as you can possibly find, and yet most are on a search for truth in their lives. It is great to hear the free debate of issues from both sides.

I appreciate the work of the admins too, to try to keep everyone abiding within the rules of the forum. It has to be a tough job at times, especially when you have crazies like "Bert" hanging around.

KeptByTheWord 08-28-2014 07:34 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1333126)
AFF is a fun place. Where eles could you see Steve Epley and Luke posting together.

It is great to hear discussion from all sides of an issue, regardless of who is posting. And really, it's fun to see you and Jason Badejo interacting, even if you don't agree much ... lol!

Abiding Now 08-28-2014 07:37 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333224)
It is great to hear discussion from all sides of an issue, regardless of who is posting. And really, it's fun to see you and Jason Badejo interacting, even if you don't agree much ... lol!

:happydance

Jason B 08-28-2014 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333224)

It is great to hear discussion from all sides of an issue, regardless of who is posting. And really, it's fun to see you and Jason Badejo interacting, even if you don't agree much ... lol!

At least one of us is acting.....

A one trick pony.....

;)

houston 08-28-2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1333084)
Well, from their point of view, would it be kind to not sound the warning?

you don't hear me warning that OP's are going to burn in hell.

KeptByTheWord 08-28-2014 09:33 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo (Post 1333247)
At least one of us is acting.....

A one trick pony.....

;)

Really? I think both of you are pretty solid in character, and in what you believe. I enjoy seeing both sides of an issue, as long as no character assassination goes on.

Ferd 08-29-2014 07:18 AM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1333056)
Besides the fact that they have not kicked me off (unlike some Trinitarian forums, where I am persona non grata)

Well I love it because I find brethren across the world who believe like I do.

I also love it because I find brethren who do not believe like I do, their different opinions regarding certain doctrines, forces me to study more carefully the scriptures and see if my doctrines can withstand scrutiny.

I have no fear of anyone questioning anything I believe, I have no sacred cows, for the truth never fears questions, the truth stands when everything else falls, and I am not afraid of anyone questioning any of my beliefs.

I love AFF for most of the members are not afraid to question just about any doctrine. At the end of time only truth will stand, everything that is false or wrong will fall by the wayside.

I stand upon the Bible as the truth, I only accept the Bible as the text for truth. if it is not in the Bible, then I simply refuse to accept it as pure truth.
my motto has always been The Bible, the Bible, the Bible and only the Bible.
So if you are going to challenge any of my beliefs, you better know your Bible.

I love AFF and I hope it remains an open forum for Apostolics of every stripe and denomination.

agree!!!!

Tina 08-29-2014 07:38 AM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
I'm just here to keep Ferd from pulling anyone's ponytail. :D

Ferd 08-29-2014 01:22 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tina (Post 1333307)
I'm just here to keep Ferd from pulling anyone's ponytail. :D

ha!


I have 3 sisters. I know all the tricks!

Luke 08-29-2014 02:34 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1333056)
Besides the fact that they have not kicked me off (unlike some Trinitarian forums, where I am persona non grata)

Well I love it because I find brethren across the world who believe like I do.

I also love it because I find brethren who do not believe like I do, their different opinions regarding certain doctrines, forces me to study more carefully the scriptures and see if my doctrines can withstand scrutiny.

I have no fear of anyone questioning anything I believe, I have no sacred cows, for the truth never fears questions, the truth stands when everything else falls, and I am not afraid of anyone questioning any of my beliefs.

I love AFF for most of the members are not afraid to question just about any doctrine. At the end of time only truth will stand, everything that is false or wrong will fall by the wayside.

I stand upon the Bible as the truth, I only accept the Bible as the text for truth. if it is not in the Bible, then I simply refuse to accept it as pure truth.
my motto has always been The Bible, the Bible, the Bible and only the Bible.
So if you are going to challenge any of my beliefs, you better know your Bible.

I love AFF and I hope it remains an open forum for Apostolics of every stripe and denomination.

Agreed. I also look forward to sitting down in heaven with Bro. Epley and try to talk things out as to how I a trin got there lol.

FlamingZword 08-29-2014 02:39 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke (Post 1333369)
Agreed. I also look forward to sitting down in heaven with Bro. Epley and try to talk things out as to how I a trin got there lol.

Could you please tell your trin friends to chill and don't get too upset when a oneness person shows them the error of the trinity.

I mean, they get super hyper, like if I was advocating child sacrifice or about to murder one of their children.

could you please tell them to ease on the name calling on us Oneness folks, we are not children of the devil, we too believe in the Bible and God. :heeheehee

Luke 08-29-2014 03:19 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1333370)
Could you please tell your trin friends to chill and don't get too upset when a oneness person shows them the error of the trinity.

I mean, they get super hyper, like if I was advocating child sacrifice or about to murder one of their children.

could you please tell them to ease on the name calling on us Oneness folks, we are not children of the devil, we too believe in the Bible and God. :heeheehee

Lol i don't know about any error but I have no problem with someone standing for what they believe in though i may disagree and even debate the topic with them.

KeptByTheWord 08-31-2014 10:17 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke (Post 1333380)
Lol i don't know about any error but I have no problem with someone standing for what they believe in though i may disagree and even debate the topic with them.

That's wonderful! As long as we can debate and discuss without it turning into a rock throwing session, then I think that we can unite on the focus that if what we believe is truth, then it will stand the test and the fire.

FlamingZword 08-31-2014 11:49 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333669)
That's wonderful! As long as we can debate and discuss without it turning into a rock throwing session, then I think that we can unite on the focus that if what we believe is truth, then it will stand the test and the fire.

The problem is that some Trinitarians are hypersensitive to any challenge of the trinity. They often act worse than some of the ultra-con apostolics when challenged scripturally on the standards.

Trinitarians are under the false impression that all true Christians believe in the trinity and if you do not, then you are splitting hell wide open, you will not pass go, you will not collect 200 pesos.

Any challenge upon the trinity they view it as a direct attack upon God, they often lack the scripture knowledge to defend their belief, and since they are unable to answer my questions or arguments, they simply resort to kicking me out of their forums.

FlamingZword 09-27-2014 12:34 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
I have gone to other forums, but I simply can not find a better forum for Apostolic believers than this one.

Yes there are a few people in here who are actually enemies of the Apostolic beliefs, but the majority are actually quite accepting of Apostolic beliefs, of course there is variation of what constitutes true Apostolic doctrines.

So yes I still like coming to AFF and debate with my Apostolic brethren, as long as they are civil about it.

Praxeas 09-27-2014 03:18 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Disciple4life (Post 1333086)
I love it when people start speaking Latin. Oh yeah and the rest of what you said was cool to. :yourock

What does this mean?

Potatoes au gratin

Praxeas 09-27-2014 03:19 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
It would be nice/ideal if Apostolics could come here and show the Love of Christ to others while also defending their faith.

Sadly mostly what you get is condemnation, whining and storming out while declaring this place reprobate

OnTheFritz 09-27-2014 03:24 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
"when a oneness person shows them the error of the trinity."

I've yet to see that happen. I've seen a lot of oneness people get bent out of shape about it though.

Abiding Now 09-27-2014 04:55 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333669)
That's wonderful! As long as we can debate and discuss without it turning into a rock throwing session, then I think that we can unite on the focus that if what we believe is truth, then it will stand the test and the fire.

Me :tease>>>> Jason :pullhair

Michael The Disciple 09-27-2014 05:25 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1336831)
It would be nice/ideal if Apostolics could come here and show the Love of Christ to others while also defending their faith.

Sadly mostly what you get is condemnation, whining and storming out while declaring this place reprobate

I commend you on this Prax. I think you have really grown in this area in the last year or so.

Michael The Disciple 09-27-2014 05:27 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheFritz (Post 1336832)
"when a oneness person shows them the error of the trinity."

I've yet to see that happen. I've seen a lot of oneness people get bent out of shape about it though.

In my early years of teaching Oneness it seems like almost all of those who would listen came to see it. It was so great! Seems its gotten much harder in recent years.

Michael The Disciple 09-27-2014 05:29 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1336815)
I have gone to other forums, but I simply can not find a better forum for Apostolic believers than this one.

Yes there are a few people in here who are actually enemies of the Apostolic beliefs, but the majority are actually quite accepting of Apostolic beliefs, of course there is variation of what constitutes true Apostolic doctrines.

So yes I still like coming to AFF and debate with my Apostolic brethren, as long as they are civil about it.

Yea this is the best. Where are the rest? Prax mentioned "Wordshare". I will have to check that out.

Abiding Now 09-27-2014 05:46 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1336871)
Yea this is the best. Where are the rest? Prax mentioned "Wordshare". I will have to check that out.

Unless they have changed, WS was a UPCI preachers only forum.

OnTheFritz 09-27-2014 06:09 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1336870)
In my early years of teaching Oneness it seems like almost all of those who would listen came to see it. It was so great! Seems its gotten much harder in recent years.

Before the Internet, people would believe anything the local pastor told them.

Sean 09-27-2014 06:24 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheFritz (Post 1336880)
Before the Internet, people would believe anything the local pastor told them.



Thats a fact.....I guess Al Gore was good for something after all!

Abiding Now 09-27-2014 06:31 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheFritz (Post 1336880)
Before the Internet, people would believe anything the local pastor told them.

:killinme

Michael The Disciple 09-27-2014 06:39 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheFritz (Post 1336880)
Before the Internet, people would believe anything the local pastor told them.

Not so. Many of us studied our Bibles and reached conclusions as to what to believe. If I had believed my first local Pastor I would still be sitting on a Church Of Christ pew.

Altho the internet is great for researching it can also be laced with deception. There are hundreds if not more of these "Apologetics" sites where they tell lies about the Oneness Faith.

One wanting to research the Apostolic Faith would be met with all kinds of deceptions.

Is there such a thing as Oneness Apologetics? Websites dedicated to teaching Oneness and Acts 2:38?

All I can think of right off hand is the one by William Arnold. It is good on those topics.

Abiding Now 09-27-2014 06:43 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1336888)
Not so. Many of us studied our Bibles and reached conclusions as to what to believe. If I had believed my first local Pastor I would still be sitting on a Church Of Christ pew.

Altho the internet is great for researching it can also be laced with deception. There are hundreds if not more of these "Apologetics" sites where they tell lies about the Oneness Faith.

One wanting to research the Apostolic Faith would be met with all kinds of deceptions.

Is there such a thing as Oneness Apologetics? Websites dedicated to teaching Oneness and Acts 2:38?

All I can think of right off hand is the one by William Arnold. It is good on those topics.

I'm lazy tonight, got a link.

Michael The Disciple 09-27-2014 07:10 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1336892)
I'm lazy tonight, got a link.

http://www.onenesspentecostal.com/

Abiding Now 09-27-2014 07:23 PM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1336894)

Thanks.

KeptByTheWord 09-29-2014 10:02 AM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheFritz (Post 1336880)
Before the Internet, people would believe anything the local pastor told them.

And that is why now people are turning to social media, Google, and online forums when they run across something they don't understand, or want to discuss, and the whole world is an open book to be read.

Back in the early 1900s to up to the 80s-90s, when OP was at its height, there was no way to talk about issues you didn't understand, past the circle of people in your community, neighborhood or church... and it was easy for pastors to enforce various and sundry unbiblical, man-made doctrines and teachings on folks who had no other way of communicating outside their small local circle. Now... with FB, Google, and online forums... this is a wide open arena for those who want to know more.

This, I believe, is doing the greatest damage to those people who have taught extra-biblical doctrines, because more and more people are saying, wait a minute, what does the Bible say about this, and are searching for information through other channels than just their local group.

AFF is a melting pot for those who call themselves Apostolics, and who with the advent of the Internet are seeking to solidify where their faith stance is. So many people come here from hundreds of different churches who have pastors who have taught their own version of extra-Biblical standards (to name a few I've heard - saints can't wear red, no open toed shoes, no beards) etc., and who are trying to clean out the bones in their belief, and hold onto the meat.

At least, that is why I am here, and why I love AFF... yes it is a melting pot here of almost every kind of "apostolic" you can find... but I think most are here because we want to be sure that what we believe can stand the fire and the testing, and to also make our "calling and election sure". I doubt there are very few here who don't want to go to heaven.

StillStanding 09-29-2014 10:08 AM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1336999)
And that is why now people are turning to social media, Google, and online forums when they run across something they don't understand, or want to discuss, and the whole world is an open book to be read.

Back in the early 1900s to up to the 80s-90s, when OP was at its height, there was no way to talk about issues you didn't understand, past the circle of people in your community, neighborhood or church... and it was easy for pastors to enforce various and sundry unbiblical, man-made doctrines and teachings on folks who had no other way of communicating outside their small local circle. Now... with FB, Google, and online forums... this is a wide open arena for those who want to know more.

This, I believe, is doing the greatest damage to those people who have taught extra-biblical doctrines, because more and more people are saying, wait a minute, what does the Bible say about this, and are searching for information through other channels than just their local group.

AFF is a melting pot for those who call themselves Apostolics, and who with the advent of the Internet are seeking to solidify where their faith stance is. So many people come here from hundreds of different churches who have pastors who have taught their own version of extra-Biblical standards (to name a few I've heard - saints can't wear red, no open toed shoes, no beards) etc., and who are trying to clean out the bones in their belief, and hold onto the meat.

At least, that is why I am here, and why I love AFF... yes it is a melting pot here of almost every kind of "apostolic" you can find... but I think most are here because we want to be sure that what we believe can stand the fire and the testing, and to also make our "calling and election sure". I doubt there are very few here who don't want to go to heaven.

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup I wish I had time to give you a thousand of these! Right on target!

KeptByTheWord 09-29-2014 10:15 AM

Re: Why I love AFF
 
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Originally Posted by StillStanding (Post 1337004)
:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup I wish I had time to give you a thousand of these! Right on target!

:)


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