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Abiding Now 08-28-2014 03:10 PM

Life in the pastor's house
 
Got this in an email.




LIFE IN THE PASTOR'S HOUSE

Do you think your Pastor gets paid too much?

Let me show you something.

Recently a minister, who retired from pastoring for over 40 years, was asked to come to work for a Hospice Company. In talking to him, I just started laughing at all the people who think pastors get paid too much. To start with,

Hospice Chaplins on call gets 10.00 per hour. So let's add that up for the full time Pastor and wife who are both on call 24/7. Let's see...that comes to $1680.00 × 2=
$ 3,360.00 per week just for being on call when you need them.

Hospice Chaplins on duty get $25.00 per hour. Let's just add up the hours your pastor is on duty. (Hours vary according to congregation size and demands. This is when it all happens in a week and it happens very often)

STUDYING: 6 hrs.
PREACHING: 3 hrs
TEACHING: 2 hrs
HOSPITAL VISITS: 3 hrs
FUNERALS (Family care before and after, Visitation and Funeral): 10 hrs. Easily
COUNSELING: 5 hrs (low figure for phone calls and in person)
STAFF MEETINGS (group and personal): 5 hrs
MANAGING BENEVOLENCE: 2-3 hrs
HOSTING VISITING MINISTERS (4 X per year) 6 hrs for a weekend or even housing them in his home for duration of a week long revival.
THESE duties alone could average $1050.00 - $ 1525.00 per week for one. If your a pastor and his wife are both performing full time in your congregation, that would come to $ 2,100.00 - $3,050.00 per week.

Preachers are allowed .55 cents per mile for ministry wear and tear on his vehicles. It's easy to travel 500 miles per week (low figure) for ministry in larger towns which comes to $275.00 per week for milage

So, if your Pastor isn't making over $8,210.00 per week, Let me encourage you to respect that you have a true MAN OF GOD Pastoring your church and not just a hired employee. Oh, and did I mention that many of us spend hours on our phones during our "Vacations" counseling and trouble shooting on our cell phones. And there is no such thing as being off the clock for a MAN OF GOD.

I was raised in a Pastors home and married a pastor. I am now the mother of a pastor. My whole life has been about people. I love people and my greatest hope is that I can make a difference in one persons life. The only thing that cuts me, is when somebody thinks pastors should be full time for peanuts. GIVE YOUR PASTOR'S high respect for what they do. If you can't afford to pay him the salary he deserves, for his duties, make sure you never forget to honor him highly on his birthday, anniversaries, holidays, special occasions. Always prefer him as your MAN OF GOD. It is popular these days to say, "Yes he's the Pastor but he's just a man". I truly understand that many "Wolves in Sheep's Clothing" have caused the loss of trust in a Man Of God, but If your Pastor is truly GOD'S MAN, God will control him, that's not your job.

As the pastor prays for, respects, loves and forgives the members of his congregations, so should the congregation pray for, respect, love and forgive their pastor. Anything else is not of God.

Go forward in understanding with clear purpose for the a kingdom of God. We are all members of one body, THE BODY OF CHRIST. Some are the head, some are the hands and feet, some are the inward parts that nobody sees. However, without each other we aren't a whole body.

Much Love,

THE PREACHER'S KID/WIFE/MOM

jediwill83 08-28-2014 03:17 PM

Re: Life in the pastor's house
 
Thats why discipleship is important that way some duties can be delegated.

n david 08-28-2014 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1333138)
Thats why discipleship is important that way some duties can be delegated.

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Abiding Now 08-28-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1333138)
Thats why discipleship is important that way some duties can be delegated.

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1333139)
Ding! Ding! Ding!

No doubt "some duties can be delegated" and then some can't be. One thing I've learned by observation is that when church folks are in the hospital they are not wanting to look up and see a junior wantabe preacher, they want their pastor. Most church folks will TOLERATE a young preacher every now and then preaching/teaching a midweek service, but very much of that and the attendance begins to fall off.

KeptByTheWord 08-28-2014 07:12 PM

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I have some problems with the dear pastor's wife's observations, but, I'll just keep my opinions to myself.

barry72 08-28-2014 07:14 PM

What you explained is not the life of most pastors i personally know.

Michael The Disciple 08-28-2014 07:22 PM

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There is no Biblical Salary for the New Covenant Minister.

Abiding Now 08-28-2014 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333208)
I have some problems with the dear pastor's wife's observations, but, I'll just keep my opinions to myself.

Awww come on, tell us your thoughts.

Praxeas 08-28-2014 07:34 PM

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Being on call is hard work...sitting around watching TV..never knowing when you'll get the call...

Abiding Now 08-28-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1333223)
Being on call is hard work...sitting around watching TV..never knowing when you'll get the call...

Is that what your pastor does?

jediwill83 08-28-2014 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1333207)
No doubt "some duties can be delegated" and then some can't be. One thing I've learned by observation is that when church folks are in the hospital they are not wanting to look up and see a junior wantabe preacher, they want their pastor. Most church folks will TOLERATE a young preacher every now and then preaching/teaching a midweek service, but very much of that and the attendance begins to fall off.

Ever think that this mindset is simply from man made church culture and maybe needs to change?Is maybe the attitude of "Its gotta be the pastor or im gonna get offended" a bit bordering on worship of man? Just because someone is a Man Of God doesnt mean God is gonna show up and straighten them out.We are to be submitted to one another as believers not "Never question me cause if God dont like it He will take care of it"...sorry...just bad theology.Plenty of bad ministers still truckin out there...yes they will be judged one day but that doesnt do anything for the people caught in erroneous teaching now.Scriptures must be continually searched and used as a benchmark in context for what is preached....and Im not saying this with any preacher in mind really so please dont think Im smearing someone.

Abiding Now 08-28-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jediwill83 (Post 1333230)
Ever think that this mindset is simply from man made church culture and maybe needs to change?Is maybe the attitude of "Its gotta be the pastor or im gonna get offended" a bit bordering on worship of man? Just because someone is a Man Of God doesnt mean God is gonna show up and straighten them out.We are to be submitted to one another as believers not "Never question me cause if God dont like it He will take care of it"...sorry...just bad theology.Plenty of bad ministers still truckin out there...yes they will be judged one day but that doesnt do anything for the people caught in erroneous teaching now.Scriptures must be continually searched and used as a benchmark in context for what is preached....and Im not saying this with any preacher in mind really so please dont think Im smearing someone.

Dear Lord where did all of that come from?

jediwill83 08-28-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1333223)
Being on call is hard work...sitting around watching TV..never knowing when you'll get the call...

Yeah you joke about this but wait till you gotta decide to sleep...eat or use the restroom knowing you wont have time for all three and maybe not even finish with one lol

jediwill83 08-28-2014 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1333233)
Dear Lord where did all of that come from?

Reaction to bad corndogs from Sonic? *shrugs innocent look*

KeptByTheWord 08-28-2014 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333208)
I have some problems with the dear pastor's wife's observations, but, I'll just keep my opinions to myself.

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1333214)
There is no Biblical Salary for the New Covenant Minister.

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1333221)
Awww come on, tell us your thoughts.

I second MTD's response, for one. I can't find "salary for pastors" teaching anywhere in the NT. Giving yes, honoring yes, respecting yes... but a salary for the pastor or man of God, no.

Michael The Disciple 08-28-2014 07:53 PM

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Could you imagine Peter, Paul, and John negotiating a salary with the Churches? And since they were apostles, having more marketable skills, they would have to have had more than the local Pastors.

Michael The Disciple 08-28-2014 08:03 PM

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Pentecostals usually like the book of Acts. Lets try this.

I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. Acts 20:33-35

Paul is speaking to the elders/pastors of the Church at Ephesus. Would have been a great time to exhort the Elders about making sure the people pay their tithes wouldn't it?

Instead he tells them to work with their own hands. These were REAL New Covenant ministers.

jediwill83 08-28-2014 08:06 PM

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"Lets see...one for you one for me....one for you three for me..."

Michael The Disciple 08-29-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1333245)
Pentecostals usually like the book of Acts. Lets try this.

I have coveted no man's silver, or gold, or apparel. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive. Acts 20:33-35

Paul is speaking to the elders/pastors of the Church at Ephesus. Would have been a great time to exhort the Elders about making sure the people pay their tithes wouldn't it?

Instead he tells them to work with their own hands. These were REAL New Covenant ministers.

Well the book of Acts doesn't really go all that far to Pentecostals I guess.

KeptByTheWord 08-29-2014 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1333372)
Well the book of Acts doesn't really go all that far to Pentecostals I guess.

It's called selectivity... or in simpler terms - picking and choosing ....

Michael The Disciple 08-29-2014 03:04 PM

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So, if your Pastor isn't making over $8,210.00 per week, Let me encourage you to respect that you have a true MAN OF GOD Pastoring your church and not just a hired employee.
The Son of man had no place to lay his head. Apparently slept in the mountains as he prayed all nite.

good samaritan 08-29-2014 09:49 PM

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I don't believe in having to negotiate a salary if God has called you somewhere. I believe that the church otta support the ministry of a pastor according to its finances and according to his level of commitment. Majority of pastors are probably underpaid by the world way of measuring, but I believe God has a reward for them that by far tips the scale in their favor. We should be careful not to make blanket statements that go against those who are men of God.

P.S. Every born again believer is a man or woman of God, but we need to give credit to were credit is due. To them who labor among us.


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