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KeptByTheWord 08-29-2014 01:40 PM

Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
I would imagine that living a healthy life would be something on the radar of just about everyone who visits this site. At least I would hope so - being sick is no fun!

Bro. E. Benicasa (aka DR. E. Bacon) and I have been having a discussion about this on another thread with an entirely different original post, and so I thought I would move our discussion to a new thread about this issue that should concern all of us.

Some questions to get started... and feel free to chime in with anything else concerning the subject of healthy living.

Do you eat and live healthy?

Do you think all the "facts" that we've been spoonfed by the Feds are things we should accept at face value?

Healthy living - what does it mean for you and your family?

Do you think as Christians eating and living healthy is something we should be concerned about?

If you have a couple of minutes to watch it... here is a video originally posted by EB, and it is a good starting point for the discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4#t=17

Michael The Disciple 08-29-2014 02:13 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
I liked the cool doo wop in the background!

Yes healthy eating should be important to us all. It does seem like the medical community comes up with all kinds of conflicting studies.

It seems YHWH wanted men to be farmers. The good foods God has graciously given modern man has injected full of chemicals. That's possibly the greatest danger.

KeptByTheWord 08-29-2014 02:23 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1333363)
I liked the cool doo wop in the background!

Yes healthy eating should be important to us all. It does seem like the medical community comes up with all kinds of conflicting studies.

It seems YHWH wanted men to be farmers. The good foods God has graciously given modern man has injected full of chemicals. That's possibly the greatest danger.

My concern exactly too. All these man-made chemicals, and genetically modified "foods" translated - "garbage" for our bodies - are so ingrained into our culture and way of life, that at times, it seems overwhelming as to how to go about getting rid of them.

And yes, farming or for us at least - gardening - is a wonderful way to connect with the necessities the Lord has already provided us with, and is what our bodies really need to be healthy.

KeptByTheWord 08-29-2014 02:51 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Do you eat and live healthy?
I guess I'll try to answer one of the questions ...

Several years ago, our family began a conscious effort to strip the shelves of our pantry of chemically-laced foods, as much as possible. This is an ongoing process. Trying to rid our pantry of any foods containing high fructose corn syrup (HFCS) was a huge challenge, and still is. It is hard sometimes to find ingredients for recipes and comfort foods that we have always eaten without having to use products containing HFCS.

Next, we began to use the least amount of processed wheat and sugar. We buy our wheat flour that is grown organically from a local wheat farm. We use turbinado sugar as much as possible in recipes that we can substitute it in. Sodas are banned from our house (although our teenage kids have occasionally drank one or two - but then report massive headaches from it!)

So... as a family we have seen the overall benefit of making changes away from the chemicals, additives, and genetically modified foods, although I know we have a lot more work to do.

I would like to be able to buy unhomogenized milk and cream but nothing close by for us to do that. :( I don't really want to have a cow, because that is so much work, and care for just one cow, but who knows, maybe one day in the future we will.

We also hunt, and eat venison year round. I buy organic meat from a local supplier who gets it fresh straight from the farm. Check out http://www.zayonfoods.com They supply organically fresh/never frozen meat to all 48 states. You can see if they are in your area. Awesome, awesome product they offer!

Exercise is also something we try to get more of, but it can be difficult as both my husband's job, and mine are sedentary. We make it a priority to get out and move as much as possible every day.

We also have a garden, and buy our produce locally too (such as fruit) that we aren't growing in our garden.

This is what our family has done so far, and we certainly need to continue.

I look forward to hearing what other people have done with lifestyle changes for the better, and hope we can all encourage each other!

Evang.Benincasa 08-29-2014 04:18 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
http://drhyman.com/blog/2011/05/13/5...will-kill-you/

5 reasons High Fructose Corn Syrup will kill you.

Evang.Benincasa 08-29-2014 04:23 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
http://www.westonaprice.org/

KeptByTheWord get in touch with Weston Price Foundation they will hook you up with local farmers or co-ops for unhomogenized unpasteurized milks.

ILG 08-30-2014 06:08 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333349)
I would imagine that living a healthy life would be something on the radar of just about everyone who visits this site. At least I would hope so - being sick is no fun!

Bro. E. Benicasa (aka DR. E. Bacon) and I have been having a discussion about this on another thread with an entirely different original post, and so I thought I would move our discussion to a new thread about this issue that should concern all of us.

Some questions to get started... and feel free to chime in with anything else concerning the subject of healthy living.

Do you eat and live healthy?

Do you think all the "facts" that we've been spoonfed by the Feds are things we should accept at face value?

Healthy living - what does it mean for you and your family?

Do you think as Christians eating and living healthy is something we should be concerned about?

If you have a couple of minutes to watch it... here is a video originally posted by EB, and it is a good starting point for the discussion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4#t=17

INteresting. Thanks for sharing.

ILG 08-30-2014 06:10 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
I would really like to get some raw milk...

Evang.Benincasa 08-30-2014 07:58 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
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Originally Posted by ILG (Post 1333509)
I would really like to get some raw milk...

http://www.realmilk.com/

They will direct you to someone in your area for raw milk, butter, yogurt, kefir and cheeses.

Steve Epley 08-30-2014 08:11 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
I have relatives who have done all this and they don't seem to be any healthier? The theories abound on what is good and what is not.

Evang.Benincasa 08-30-2014 08:15 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1333523)
I have relatives who have done all this and they don't seem to be any healthier? The theories abound on what is good and what is not.

Elder you don't like steaks, bacon and eggs washed down with ice cold glass of milk?

You become a vegan?

houston 08-30-2014 08:54 PM

I'm drinking this kombucha stuff.

houston 08-30-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1333532)
I'm drinking this kombucha stuff.

and it made me burp several times.

Doesn't taste like anything, really. Was suppose to be ginger flavored. Light vinegar smell when I opened the bottle. Does not taste like vinegar.

Evang.Benincasa 08-30-2014 09:05 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1333532)
I'm drinking this kombucha stuff.

http://www.synergydrinks.com/

Is it this stuff?

Evang.Benincasa 08-30-2014 09:09 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1333533)
and it made me burp several times.

Doesn't taste like anything, really. Was suppose to be ginger flavored. Light vinegar smell when I opened the bottle. Does not taste like vinegar.

I stopped drinking it, we have women in our church who make it, but it wasn't doing anything for me. I give everything a year, if it doesn't work well with ME I won't use it for a time. I may pick it up again, I may not. But you have to find what works for you. You want ginger in a fermented sweet tea, you have to juice it and put it in yourself. Fresh ginger juiced works, ginger put into a bottled drink not so much.

houston 08-30-2014 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1333534)

yes, it was their product.

Evang.Benincasa 08-30-2014 09:19 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1333536)
yes, it was their product.

OK.

votivesoul 08-31-2014 12:13 AM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1333387)
http://www.westonaprice.org/

KeptByTheWord get in touch with Weston Price Foundation they will hook you up with local farmers or co-ops for unhomogenized unpasteurized milks.

My wife and I are Weston Price-ites. Pretty exclusively, though I sometimes cheat. My wife? Like never.

We live in WI, and access to legal raw milk is almost impossible, or at least, not feasible.

You should see our kids: like the Maasai and Peruvians of old. Strapping puts it mildly.

votivesoul 08-31-2014 12:15 AM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1333532)
I'm drinking this kombucha stuff.

My wife makes it, scoby and fermenting jars and all. She infuses it occasionally, or leaves it as is. It's a wonderful drink my whole family enjoys. I would not recommend bottled or manufactured if homemade is available.

It has done wonders for my GERD and other digestive issues.

Evang.Benincasa 08-31-2014 12:27 AM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1333548)
My wife and I are Weston Price-ites. Pretty exclusively, though I sometimes cheat. My wife? Like never.

We live in WI, and access to legal raw milk is almost impossible, or at least, not feasible.

You should see our kids: like the Maasai and Peruvians of old. Strapping puts it mildly.

No doubt!

By the way, Organic Valley has like three farms in Wisconsin which make a very good flash pasteurized grass fed non-homogenized milk.

http://www.organicvalley.coop/products/milk/grassmilk/

http://www.organicvalley.coop/filead...NATL_WH_ip.jpg

Evang.Benincasa 08-31-2014 12:37 AM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1333549)
My wife makes it, scoby and fermenting jars and all. She infuses it occasionally, or leaves it as is. It's a wonderful drink my whole family enjoys. I would not recommend bottled or manufactured if homemade is available.

It has done wonders for my GERD and other digestive issues.

Amen, the home brewed Kombucha is the best, but I just don't find it was something I needed. I always recommend that people do what their body needs. I weight lift and ride a Cannondale 50 miles every other day in the Florida heat. I find what works and gives me the top performance, and what doesn't work, because it makes me lose performance. Eating healthy is only a portion, you have to exercise. Not just riding a bike, or taking a brisk stroll, you have to have resistance training, and calisthenics. When people think of healthy living they get images of bean sprouts and tofu burgers, and that couldn't be farther from the truth. This country wasn't built on bean sprouts and tofu, this country was built on animal proteins that is what made us strong.

houston 08-31-2014 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1333549)
My wife makes it, scoby and fermenting jars and all. She infuses it occasionally, or leaves it as is. It's a wonderful drink my whole family enjoys. I would not recommend bottled or manufactured if homemade is available. It has done wonders for my GERD and other digestive issues.

I read warnings on homemade kombucha.

Esaias 08-31-2014 05:19 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
If the idea of ILLEGAL MILK doesn't make you say "yeah right, whatever!" then you need to see if you are really God's ... or somebody else's property...

Just sayin'...

Evang.Benincasa 08-31-2014 07:10 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1333615)
If the idea of ILLEGAL MILK doesn't make you say "yeah right, whatever!" then you need to see if you are really God's ... or somebody else's property...

Just sayin'...

It is illegal to sell for human consumption it is not illegal to sell as pet food.
We do have aisles and aisles of pet food lining the shelves of supermarkets, even seven elevens. If someone purchased gold fish food and downed the box, would they get arrested or would they simply get baker acted? It is illegal (in certain states) to sell unhomogenized and unpasteurized milk for human consumption. Yet if you are pouring the milk (you purchased) from a farm or store which they sold as for pet use only over your mini wheats, no SWAT team will be kicking down your door to confiscate your cereal bowl.

Esaias 08-31-2014 09:47 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1333623)
It is illegal to sell for human consumption it is not illegal to sell as pet food.
We do have aisles and aisles of pet food lining the shelves of supermarkets, even seven elevens. If someone purchased gold fish food and downed the box, would they get arrested or would they simply get baker acted? It is illegal (in certain states) to sell unhomogenized and unpasteurized milk for human consumption. Yet if you are pouring the milk (you purchased) from a farm or store which they sold as for pet use only over your mini wheats, no SWAT team will be kicking down your door to confiscate your cereal bowl.

Oh I understand that, I'm just saying the idea of ILLEGAL MILK is something only Commies dream up and only bondslaves acknowledge as legitimate.

KeptByTheWord 08-31-2014 09:53 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
We lived close to a raw milk dairy several years ago, and it was awesome. I can't drink pasteurized milk, but I could drink the raw milk, and we all felt better drinking that milk. I sure miss it. I looked at the links EB provided, and the closest dairy to us is over an hour away, which is rather inconvenient. I am going to talk to our local Mennonite store, and see if it is possible for them to carry raw milk, or if they can.

KeptByTheWord 08-31-2014 09:55 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1333535)
I stopped drinking it, we have women in our church who make it, but it wasn't doing anything for me. I give everything a year, if it doesn't work well with ME I won't use it for a time. I may pick it up again, I may not. But you have to find what works for you. You want ginger in a fermented sweet tea, you have to juice it and put it in yourself. Fresh ginger juiced works, ginger put into a bottled drink not so much.

I think that it is wise to listen and watch how your body reacts to things. Our bodies do not all process things the same. What works for one person, may react horribly in another.

I love putting fresh ginger in my green smoothie every morning! Does that count?

KeptByTheWord 08-31-2014 09:58 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1333548)
My wife and I are Weston Price-ites. Pretty exclusively, though I sometimes cheat. My wife? Like never.

We live in WI, and access to legal raw milk is almost impossible, or at least, not feasible.

You should see our kids: like the Maasai and Peruvians of old. Strapping puts it mildly.

I read through some of the Weston Price information. Wow. Very interesting. Will continue to try to read through it. Could you share things you have tried in your family that have helped?

Interesting that the Kombucha has helped your GERD. I will pass that on to a family member who is struggling with that disease too.

How does your wife make Kombucha?

KeptByTheWord 08-31-2014 09:59 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1333523)
I have relatives who have done all this and they don't seem to be any healthier? The theories abound on what is good and what is not.

Theories indeed are as cheap as a penny lying in the street, to be sure. However... maybe you can share some things that your relatives have tried that haven't worked?

Steve Epley 08-31-2014 10:43 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333661)
Theories indeed are as cheap as a penny lying in the street, to be sure. However... maybe you can share some things that your relatives have tried that haven't worked?

They were juicers, vitamins, no pork, no caffeine, very careful on what they ate. I just can't tell any difference in them and those who just ate normally?

Evang.Benincasa 08-31-2014 11:03 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1333652)
Oh I understand that, I'm just saying the idea of ILLEGAL MILK is something only Commies dream up and only bondslaves acknowledge as legitimate.

You are a 100% correct

Evang.Benincasa 08-31-2014 11:04 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333655)
We lived close to a raw milk dairy several years ago, and it was awesome. I can't drink pasteurized milk, but I could drink the raw milk, and we all felt better drinking that milk. I sure miss it. I looked at the links EB provided, and the closest dairy to us is over an hour away, which is rather inconvenient. I am going to talk to our local Mennonite store, and see if it is possible for them to carry raw milk, or if they can.

Mennonites will hook you up.

Evang.Benincasa 08-31-2014 11:09 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333657)
I think that it is wise to listen and watch how your body reacts to things. Our bodies do not all process things the same. What works for one person, may react horribly in another.

I love putting fresh ginger in my green smoothie every morning! Does that count?

My morning smoothie is avocado, bananas, strawberries, blueberries, mango, raw sweet potato, 4 raw eggs, medjool dates, protein powder, raw whey, and sunflower sprouts. I make about a half a gallon and drink it before I hit the road on the Cannondale.

Evang.Benincasa 08-31-2014 11:14 PM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333660)
I read through some of the Weston Price information. Wow. Very interesting. Will continue to try to read through it. Could you share things you have tried in your family that have helped?

Interesting that the Kombucha has helped your GERD. I will pass that on to a family member who is struggling with that disease too.

How does your wife make Kombucha?

I know quite a few people with GERD who have been helped by Kombucha.

Everything you do you have to go through a ton of information. Yet, your body will tell you if what you are doing is right for you. What may work for one person may not be right for you. But keep in mind inactivity is the biggest enemy. Lack of exercise will get you no matter what healthy eating lifestyle you have.

Steve Epley 09-01-2014 07:03 AM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1333683)
My morning smoothie is avocado, bananas, strawberries, blueberries, mango, raw sweet potato, 4 raw eggs, medjool dates, protein powder, raw whey, and sunflower sprouts. I make about a half a gallon and drink it before I hit the road on the Cannondale.

Lord let your servant depart in peace.:spit

Evang.Benincasa 09-01-2014 07:30 AM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1333704)
Lord let your servant depart in peace.:spit

:heeheehee

KeptByTheWord 09-02-2014 08:42 AM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1333681)
Mennonites will hook you up.

I'm going to talk to them today or tomorrow.

KeptByTheWord 09-02-2014 08:46 AM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1333683)
My morning smoothie is avocado, bananas, strawberries, blueberries, mango, raw sweet potato, 4 raw eggs, medjool dates, protein powder, raw whey, and sunflower sprouts. I make about a half a gallon and drink it before I hit the road on the Cannondale.

Raw eggs huh! Haven't tried that one. Do you raise the chickens and have your own eggs? We have 6 hens that are just babies yet. Hope to have our own fresh eggs before long. Although we have neighbors who do free range chickens, and who practically give their eggs to us because they have so many.

If you make a half-gallon smoothie, you must have a bigger blender than a Nutribullet. My Nutribullet only makes about 3 cups. That is a big smoothie to drink every morning!

So you ride a Cannondale bike every other day - please tell me you are not decked out in the typical bicycle rider's spandex clothing!!!! LOL

Evang.Benincasa 09-02-2014 08:47 AM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1333805)
I'm going to talk to them today or tomorrow.

Ask them about all the diary products.

KeptByTheWord 09-02-2014 08:48 AM

Re: Facts, Lies or Truth About Healthy Living?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1333678)
They were juicers, vitamins, no pork, no caffeine, very careful on what they ate. I just can't tell any difference in them and those who just ate normally?

Have you talked to them to see if they feel differently, or have had a change in any physical conditions they may have?


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