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Michael The Disciple 09-12-2014 05:34 PM

Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Are there any out there? Whenever I see a video of an Apostolic Preacher/Teacher it very rarely makes me actually want to watch it. Usually some hollering and an idea that the crowd is supposed to get behind them.

Any recommended video or even audio where there is deep teaching? Or even just sound teaching?

Evang.Benincasa 09-12-2014 05:57 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1335184)
Are there any out there? Whenever I see a video of an Apostolic Preacher/Teacher it very rarely makes me actually want to watch it. Usually some hollering and an idea that the crowd is supposed to get behind them.

Any recommended video or even audio where there is deep teaching? Or even just sound teaching?

Are you a deep Apostolic teacher?

Michael The Disciple 09-12-2014 06:40 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1335185)
Are you a deep Apostolic teacher?

Yes but I can hear me anytime. I wish there were deeper "Apostolic" teachers.

KeptByTheWord 09-12-2014 07:15 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
I enjoy listening to KP Yohannan, from Gospel for Asia, when I can. I don't know what all he doctrinally believes, but his messages deeply touch me.

KeptByTheWord 09-12-2014 07:19 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
To Live is Christ!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWDcNmLe758

Michael The Disciple 09-12-2014 07:47 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1335195)
I enjoy listening to KP Yohannan, from Gospel for Asia, when I can. I don't know what all he doctrinally believes, but his messages deeply touch me.

You know I remember hearing something from that group and thinking I wanted to know what they believe. I will check it out tomorrow.

PastorTLArt 09-12-2014 08:14 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Im the Apostolic Charles Stanley. I cant stand too much "hackin and snortin" I LOVE MEAT!!!

Lafon 09-12-2014 08:30 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorTLArt (Post 1335203)
Im the Apostolic Charles Stanley. I cant stand too much "hackin and snortin" I LOVE MEAT!!!

:thumbsup:highfive

FlamingZword 09-12-2014 08:51 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1335187)
Yes but I can hear me anytime. I wish there were deeper "Apostolic" teachers.

When you say deeper Apostolic preachers are you talking about those who can debate for years on the finer points of Calvinist predestination?

Is it like the preacher who took four years to teach the book of Ephesians?

When you said deeper Apostolic preachers
I just have this image of old scholarly folks, in a dusty room, opening gut busting size books and then endlessly droning on for hours about the correct pronunciation of some esoteric Hebrew or Greek word. :heeheehee

Evang.Benincasa 09-12-2014 09:15 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1335205)
When you say deeper Apostolic preachers are you talking about those who can debate for years on the finer points of Calvinist predestination?

Is it like the preacher who took four years to teach the book of Ephesians?

When you said deeper Apostolic preachers
I just have this image of old scholarly folks, in a dusty room, opening gut busting size books and then endlessly droning on for hours about the correct pronunciation of some esoteric Hebrew or Greek word. :heeheehee

Now that was extremely humorous.

You do alright for a Bacon Hater. :thumbsup

Evang.Benincasa 09-12-2014 09:18 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1335187)
Yes but I can hear me anytime. I wish there were deeper "Apostolic" teachers.

In your fellowship are there ministers who are on the same page with you, and are they as deep as you, or more?

FlamingZword 09-12-2014 09:19 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1335213)
Now that was extremely humorous.

You do alright for a Bacon Hater. :thumbsup

What are you talking about Willis?

Actually I am a TURKEY Bacon Lover. :heeheehee

Evang.Benincasa 09-12-2014 09:20 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1335217)
What are you talking about Willis?

Actually I am a TURKEY Bacon Lover. :heeheehee

OK! Turkey bacon is awesome! :heeheehee

Dante 09-12-2014 09:38 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Deep and apostolic don't go together.

FlamingZword 09-12-2014 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante (Post 1335224)
Βαθιά και αποστολική δεν πάνε μαζί.

Sorry can not understand a word you are saying.
Too deep for me :heeheehee

Evang.Benincasa 09-12-2014 10:22 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1335225)
Sorry can not understand a word you are saying.
Too deep for me :heeheehee

Publius Vergilius Maro to Dante Alighieri.

Profunda , et apostolicam, non cohaerebant

Dante 09-12-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1335228)
Publius Vergilius Maro to Dante Alighieri.

Profunda , et apostolicam, non cohaerebant

Tu canis ab ingenito plenus lepra, et malitia. Turpitudinem uxoris tuae idoneus.:thumbsup

PastorTLArt 09-12-2014 11:30 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Ok. What does the Apostle Paul say about speaking without interpretation?

PastorTLArt 09-12-2014 11:32 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
And who is the dog btw?

Evang.Benincasa 09-12-2014 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PastorTLArt (Post 1335232)
And who is the dog btw?

Not I, I'm going to behave myself in all languages. :)

Praxeas 09-13-2014 12:12 AM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1335184)
Are there any out there? Whenever I see a video of an Apostolic Preacher/Teacher it very rarely makes me actually want to watch it. Usually some hollering and an idea that the crowd is supposed to get behind them.

Any recommended video or even audio where there is deep teaching? Or even just sound teaching?

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...aniel+Segraves

Evang.Benincasa 09-13-2014 12:15 AM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1335234)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xF3DyygQrI

Praxeas 09-13-2014 12:22 AM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
http://clearwordconference.com/

mfblume 09-13-2014 09:03 AM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Some hesitate to do this, but Paul magnified his office. Romans 11:13. Any ministry we have is not of our doings and flesh, but God. So God is the one to exalt,... never us. Having said that, to ensure none get the wrong idea, he has called me to deeper teaching ministry. To Him be glory.

HtTp://BREATHOFLIFECanada.com/video.php

KeptByTheWord 09-13-2014 10:53 AM

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http://breathoflifecanada.com/videos/rdtw1.php

Awesome teaching Bro. Blume!

Evang.Benincasa 09-13-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1335271)

:highfive

mfblume 09-13-2014 03:18 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord (Post 1335271)

Thanks. But it really is the Lord, and I know you understand that as well.

Michael The Disciple 09-13-2014 04:01 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1335234)

I liked this.

Michael The Disciple 09-13-2014 04:03 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PastorTLArt (Post 1335203)
Im the Apostolic Charles Stanley. I cant stand too much "hackin and snortin" I LOVE MEAT!!!

But doctrinally Charles seems to be wrong on all counts, at least foundation wise.

Sean 09-13-2014 04:24 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Originally Posted by PastorTLArt View Post
Im the Apostolic Charles Stanley. I cant stand too much "hackin and snortin" I LOVE MEAT!!!




Some meat will give you food poisoning. Just be careful what you digest.

Lafon 09-13-2014 05:30 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1335292)
But doctrinally Charles seems to be wrong on all counts, at least foundation wise.

Mike, I think the Pastor was saying that he preferred teaching likened to C. Stanley rather than the yelling, snorting, etc. one normally witnesses in Apostolic churches, NOT that he agrees with Stanley's doctrines. At least that is how I understood it, but I'm confident he will set us both aright if it be that is not what he meant.

Michael The Disciple 09-13-2014 05:35 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by Lafon (Post 1335302)
Mike, I think the Pastor was saying that he preferred teaching likened to C. Stanley rather than the yelling, snorting, etc. one normally witnesses in Apostolic churches, NOT that he agrees with Stanley's doctrines. At least that is how I understood it, but I'm confident he will set us both aright if it be that is not what he meant.

Yea I think he meant it that way. I sound more like Charles Stanly than the stereotype Pentecostal Preacher.

Lafon 09-13-2014 05:48 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
After recommending a book written by a discredited Baptist preacher when I challenged his teachings concerning "soul sleep," a man who not only called the UPCI a cult, but who also said that "tongues" was a "doctrine of devils," then I wouldn't even "walk across the street" to listen to anything Seagraves might have to say.

Michael The Disciple 09-13-2014 06:00 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lafon (Post 1335304)
After recommending a book written by a discredited Baptist preacher when I challenged his teachings concerning "soul sleep," a man who not only called the UPCI a cult, but who also said that "tongues" was a "doctrine of devils," then I wouldn't even "walk across the street" to listen to anything Seagraves might have to say.

What? I thought Seagraves was a UPC?

Evang.Benincasa 09-13-2014 07:21 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1335307)
What? I thought Seagraves was a UPC?

He is

FlamingZword 09-13-2014 07:37 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1335294)
Originally Posted by PastorTLArt View Post
Im the Apostolic Charles Stanley. I cant stand too much "hackin and snortin" I LOVE MEAT!!!

Some meat will give you food poisoning. Just be careful what you digest.

No offense brother, but you need to check some of the meat you eat, it might be a little spoiled. :heeheehee

Evang.Benincasa 09-13-2014 07:38 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
http://danielsegraves.blogspot.com/

Michael The Disciple 09-13-2014 07:53 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1335313)

Dom,

But how does that relate to what Lafon said? Seagraves has become anti Pentecostal?

Lafon 09-13-2014 08:04 PM

Re: Deep Apostolic Teachers?
 
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple (Post 1335315)
Dom,

But how does that relate to what Lafon said? Seagraves has become anti Pentecostal?

Sorry, Mike, I didn't say that Seagraves had "become anti-Pentecostal." What I said was that instead of defending his stated position concerning "soul sleep," which I refuted by way of personal correspondence with him when he was the Dean of Theology at Christian Life College in California (he is now associated with the Urshan School of Theology at Hazelwood, Mo), he replied, recommending that I acquire and study a book written by a defrocked Baptist theologian, which essentially believed as he did about the matter.

I likened Seagraves actions to be similar to advising me to go and consult with the devil to learn the "truth" about "soul sleep"! What Seagraves was not aware of was that I had in my possession a DVD in which the defrocked ex-Baptist theologian accused the UPCI of being cultic, and that "speaking in tongues" was of the devil.

I would have thought that Seagraves, being the learned biblical scholar that he proclaims himself to be, would have been aware of the credentials of the man who wrote the book that he advised me to purchase and study.

This incident happened more than 10 years ago, and I've never listened to a single sermon, or speech concerning Bible doctrines by Seagraves since, nor do I intend to!

Michael The Disciple 09-13-2014 08:06 PM

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Wow if Seagraves teaches soul sleep he just moved up in my eyes! Good news!


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