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I had a meeting at work to discuss insurance coverage. Dental care was not offered. I guess I can live with missing amalgams. Really. The health benefits offered are comparable to Obamacare C. Nothing more was offered. I would pay approximately $160/mo for coverage that covers NOTHING until after I pay out $6,000. Mmkay, no. I waived coverage. I guess I'll look into Obamacare. Ugh.

wonder how much bammercare is gonna cost ya...

I think I will take the penalty.

I created an account on the O-care website. I was filling out an app... then I was logged out. I attempted to sign in several times with no success.

:/

I want to know how many insurance companies contributed to Obama's campaign

The sad reality is, that in the long run the insurance companies will be put out of business and/or taken over by the government. The health care industry will ultimately suffer a shortage of doctors (because we can already see from medicare/medicaid that the government is awful about paying doctors for their work) and we, the people, will lose one of the best health care systems in the world.

People who look at this so-called "health care bill" and see only how it benefits them and their insurance costs, are short-sighted at best and utterly ignorant at worst.

I think this mixed up program of government/private cooperation isn't going to work. The insurance system has to be either an entirely free market health insurance or a single payer system. It's all or nothing in both directions or it ends up lopsided and unsustainable.

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1337049)

I think I will take the penalty.

with those deductibles, it seems as though you have hardly a choice.

I think a lot of people are going to take the penalty.. for the first few years at least, until they raise the penalty so high that it will force people into buying the insurance. Sad.

The way the law is written they can withhold your tax return. They are not allowed to collect more than your return.

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Judge: IRS Obamacare Rule 'Is Arbitrary, Capricious, and Abuse of Discretion'

"The court holds that the IRS rule is arbitrary, capricious, and abuse of discretion or otherwise not in accordance with law, pursuant to 5 U.S.C.706(2)(A), in excess of summary jurisdiction, authority or limitation, or short of statutory right, pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 706(2)(C), or otherwise is an invalidation of the ACA [Affordable Care Act], and is hereby vacated. The court's order of vacatur is stayed, however, pending resolution of any appeal from this order."

Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt hailed the state's victory in its lawsuit challenging the implementation of the Affordable Care Act:

"Today's ruling is a consequential victory for the rule of law. The administration and its bureaucrats in the IRS handed out billions in illegal tax credits and subsidies and vastly expanded the reach of the health care law because they didn't like the way Congress wrote the Affordable Care Act. That's not how our system of government works."

Currently, over a hundred lawsuits have been filed against Obamacare - and Obamacare has lost 91% of the cases decided to-date, (71 losses out of 78 decisions), according to the latest tally by The Beckett Fund.
http://www.becketfund.org/hhsinformationcentral/

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-...use-discretion

We have to go the way of the courts before we can stop this horrible healthcare program.

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1337337)

We have to go the way of the courts before we can stop this horrible healthcare program.

It needs to be stopped. Such a mess.

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1337235)

The way the law is written they can withhold your tax return. They are not allowed to collect more than your return.

Also, if you have no return coming (& I advise people to change their withholding so you end up close to even on this), they cannot collect from you in other ways.

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I think a lot of people are going to take the penalty.. for the first few years at least, until they raise the penalty so high that it will force people into buying the insurance.

Even with this, if you cannot afford it, you can't afford it----no matter how high the fine is. Don't save your money through withholding for taxes (for instance, getting hundreds or even thousands back at tax time). Make your withholding amount so you come out as close to even as you can. Then they can only take whatever the small amount is.

Just wait for the first set of fines and see the outcry. People may do more then.