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Wonder 10-30-2014 08:05 PM

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So . . . all I can say about this article is . . . unbelievable :smack

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mick-m...b_6010114.html

Praxeas 10-30-2014 11:20 PM

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Crazy

Aquila 10-31-2014 08:33 AM

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Jesus had mercy upon sinners. He didn't condone their sin. He even paid for their sins in full upon the cross. And today that atonement and propitiation is still available so that one might be justified by faith and receive the life changing power of the Holy Spirit.

Esaias 11-01-2014 09:13 PM

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What's sad is this article expresses the view of Jesus large numbers of professing christians have.

WWJD? Whatever it was He would get crucified for it by both Pharisees and Pagans.

mfblume 11-01-2014 09:19 PM

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I never read the point of this thread, but WWJD always reminds of the error so many have. They try to imitate Christ, when in reality Christ needs to live through us. HUGE difference.

jfrog 11-02-2014 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1341874)
I never read the point of this thread, but WWJD always reminds of the error so many have. They try to imitate Christ, when in reality Christ needs to live through us. HUGE difference.

Totally disagree. If more Christians tried to imitate Jesus instead of the Pharisees the world would be a better place :)

shazeep 11-02-2014 10:41 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1341874)
I never read the point of this thread, but WWJD always reminds of the error so many have. They try to imitate Christ, when in reality Christ needs to live through us. HUGE difference.

I would be curious how you see there being a difference there.

mfblume 11-02-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1341974)
I would be curious how you see there being a difference there.

It's huge to me. It's like using human energy to try to make ourselves act like JESUS as opposed to believing in prayer for him inside us to supernaturally inspire us with power to do things that we could not normally do in human energy.

mfblume 11-02-2014 01:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1341895)
Totally disagree. If more Christians tried to imitate Jesus instead of the Pharisees the world would be a better place :)

That is walking after the flesh when we urge ourselves in human strength to do good. The bible teaches to yield our bodies as instruments of his righteousness. That means he uses us in actual use. The goal is the same, but the means to that goal cannot work when we use fleshly power to imitate Jesus.

The bible teaches there's more than just the need to serve God. It's the method we use to serve Him that matters.

Rom 7:6    But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Abiding Now 11-02-2014 02:44 PM

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Ephesians 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

STRONGS

Eph 5:1 Be G1096 ye therefore G3767 followers G3402 of God,G2316 as G5613 dear G27 children;G5043

μιμητής

mimētēs

mim-ay-tace'

From G3401; an imitator: - follower.

JFB

followers — Greek, “imitators” of God, in respect to “love” (Eph_5:2): God’s essential character (1Jo_4:16).

Clark

The word μιμηται, which we translate followers, signifies such as personate others, assuming their gait, mode of speech, accent, carriage, etc.; and it is from this Greek word that we have the word mimic.

Barnes

Be ye therefore followers of God - Greek, “Be imitators - μιμηταὶ mimētai - of God.” The idea is not that they were to be the friends of God, or numbered among his followers, but that they were to imitate him in the particular thing under consideration.

shazeep 11-02-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1342021)
It's huge to me. It's like using human energy to try to make ourselves act like JESUS as opposed to believing in prayer for him inside us to supernaturally inspire us with power to do things that we could not normally do in human energy.

Well, I get where you are going there; it can be all too easy to embark upon human good.

mfblume 11-02-2014 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1342040)
Well, I get where you are going there; it can be all too easy to embark upon human good.

That's the point. Amen.

Abiding Now 11-02-2014 08:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1341874)
I never read the point of this thread, but WWJD always reminds of the error so many have. They try to imitate Christ, when in reality Christ needs to live through us. HUGE difference.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1341895)
Totally disagree. If more Christians tried to imitate Jesus instead of the Pharisees the world would be a better place :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1342036)
Ephesians 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;

STRONGS

Eph 5:1 Be G1096 ye therefore G3767 followers G3402 of God,G2316 as G5613 dear G27 children;G5043

μιμητής

mimētēs

mim-ay-tace'

From G3401; an imitator: - follower.

JFB

followers — Greek, “imitators” of God, in respect to “love” (Eph_5:2): God’s essential character (1Jo_4:16).

Clark

The word μιμηται, which we translate followers, signifies such as personate others, assuming their gait, mode of speech, accent, carriage, etc.; and it is from this Greek word that we have the word mimic.

Barnes

Be ye therefore followers of God - Greek, “Be imitators - μιμηταὶ mimētai - of God.” The idea is not that they were to be the friends of God, or numbered among his followers, but that they were to imitate him in the particular thing under consideration.

Bump

mfblume 11-03-2014 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1342069)
Bump

My note of Romans 7:6 deals with your assertion. You have not response to that?

mfblume 11-03-2014 08:28 AM

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Let me put it this way. THERE IS ONE MANNER< but ONE ALONE, in which we imitate Jesus. In all Jesus did, HE DID NOT RELY UPON HUMAN POWER to perform His ministry. He relied on the SPIRIT. Looking at HIS OUTWARD ACTIONS AND trying to imitate them is WRONG. It is HIS INNER ACTIONS we must imitate. And they were relying in faithful prayer and submission to the Father for all He did. he never once acts independently as a human being without reliance upon the Spirit of the Father IN HIM.

John 5:30 KJV I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 14:10 KJV Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

WWJD is an error, . . . UNLESS it is ONE ANSWER for everything we face. What would Jesus do about this situation or that? The answer is the same! Rely upon the Spirit within His humanity to guide Him. NEVER EVER without reliance on the Father, do anything!

Abiding Now 11-03-2014 01:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1342023)
That is walking after the flesh when we urge ourselves in human strength to do good. The bible teaches to yield our bodies as instruments of his righteousness. That means he uses us in actual use. The goal is the same, but the means to that goal cannot work when we use fleshly power to imitate Jesus.

The bible teaches there's more than just the need to serve God. It's the method we use to serve Him that matters.

Rom 7:6    But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

I serve (imitate) through the Holy Ghost the things delivered by Jesus and the apostles.

Your turn.

mfblume 11-03-2014 01:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Abiding Now (Post 1342242)
I serve (imitate) through the Holy Ghost the things delivered by Jesus and the apostles.

Your turn.

If you know that means you cannot do it in your flesh, but rely upon His SPirit to cause you to do His will, then I agree.


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