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https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=CBCM6o1N9FI So, fo those of you who deny that we are indeed in the last days, what do you think of this?

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I think the vast overwhelming support of exegetical biblical study disallows for any of this to mean anything prophetically. It's sensationalism at its best, imho.

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Very important message! Many laugh them off today setting the stage for Yeshua's prophecy to come to pass.

Yeshua Christ:

9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. Matt 24:9-13

Many say that "Im a Christian it will all pan out in the end". They dont want to think about it. They think the Lords words do not apply to them.

Yet HE said MANY would be offended. Many would betray one another. The love of MANY would wax cold.

Right now MANY think "I would never be like Judas". Yet Judas never started out to betray Christ. In the end he did.

The Holy Spirit's advice is to take up the cross and deny self daily in the sense of learning to love and do the will of YHWH more than other things.

DO meditate upon Ephesians 6 spiritual warfare from time to time that you would be built up in the faith. Better to be strong in the Lord and the power of his might than to overcome by demonic temptations and love of self.

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Middle East believers dont think of it as "sensationalism". Many have had to watch as the observed family members having their heads cut of by the ruthless beast of Islam. Even as we speak many are on the run to avoid being captured by them.

Will we ever wake up? It is not a game. Peace and love.

Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Jesus told them two thousand years ago, "you." Not us. That doesn't mean we won't go through anything.

Thus persecution had gone on ever since there was a church.

That video was sensationalism.

I pray for those persecuted.

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Where's the FEMA camps???

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BAMA has 2 years to git us coralled into a camp.

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Wrong, Matt 24 is not for us.

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With all the evidence shown that this is a fact, folks would sooner cling to tradition than admit error.

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I am not the brightest in theology but do know you means you, not them.

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I pointed this out to someone who only heard futurism before, and they were so taken by this and said, "It never made sense to me to read that chapter and see Jesus use the terms YOU and YE and allegedly refer to us thousands of years later."

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lol...typical fear mongering, anti obama, "obama is a muslim" propaganda...it's getting old, these folks should move on...

Btw, persecution (including beheading) has been occurring for many many years sine the inception of the church, so why is it that the thought of it happening in the USA implies the end of the world??

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Tell it to the Syrian and Iraqi believers. Their friends and family have already been chased out of their homes. They have to face the reality it could be then next.

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Everything in the 4 gospels was said TO THEM. TO THEM.

NOT US. NOT US.

So I suppose NONE of the teachings of Christ have reference to us.

That is the great damage done to those who accept preterism.

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Not all of them, no.

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What does "when you see these things mean"

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Most things Jesus said in the Gospels were to them but FOR US ALL. But when Jesus gave particular signs to people listening to Him that would only occur in one short span of time, we cannot say that words that apply to everyone in the church for so long as there is a church are the intended audience. Many things said to THEM span all the church age, like the sermon on the mount in Mat 5-7. All of the parables apply to everyone in the church age. But time-limited events do not.

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Because so many thing everything in the New Testament is for THE USA and no other nation.

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Tell that to every believer ever persecuted in more serious ways than this all through the church history somewhere in the world.

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are you kidding?

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The video in itself does not prove this is the end time. It is a warning sign.

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Jesus gave explicit notice of what THE SIGN, not signs (as in many), which would be indicative of the nearness of His 2nd coming, when He responded to the apostles inquiry, saying, "Take heed that no man deceive you" (Matthew 24:4). In other words, worldwide spiritual deception wrought by a multitude of false prophets.

I believe that He was saying, in rather veiled language, that the abundance of false prophets which would arise in the latter days (such as we are presently witnessing), who would be proclaiming a variety of speculative scenarios about His coming (i.e., the rapture of the church, preterism, etc) would be THE SIGN that we should look for.

This belief is based upon His statements which immediately followed, wherein He described in greater detail about such false prophets and the havoc which their erroneous teachings would inflict upon unsuspecting mankind.

Just my thoughts about the matter. I'm confident there are those who would be quick to disagree.

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Hi my preterist friends. Do you recognize these scriptures? Take careful notice that they are addressed to specific people. Not one of them has YOUR NAME on them! Will you now be consistent?





2To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

7To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;) 2And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

1Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

4To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

1James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

1The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.

Dont leave you much to stand on when you also take out the gospels which were of course written for the people BACK THEN!

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I know of only 2 groups of people that declare that Jesus returned already.

The Jehovahs Witnesses and Preterists.(there may be more) Even though there is no physical record of the Lords' return at all.

The 2nd coming will be the Greatest event to be witnessed by all of mankind since the beginning of the world.

The rapture believers are only awaiting a "catching away of the bride", prior to the end of the Church Age.


Then the center of attention will be put back on the Millennial Reign of Christ and the Lord will Reign from Jerusalem, with a restored Israel, having a NEW covenant and everyone in Israel from the LEAST to the GREATEST will know the Lord.
This has never happened, but it most certainly will when Jesus returns to Reign on earth....

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.



Israel will not be subjected to the Law of Moses on parchment, as in the former covenant, but the NEW Israel will have the Law written in their hearts. All of them in Israel will have their sins forgiven as a result of this NEW covenant. Every single one of them in Israel will know the Lord, and they will NOT have any more need to teach one another about Jesus.(Because He is PHYSICALLY reigning in their own front yard)

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Strawman argument.


I already said general truths and statements and doctrines are for every generation of the church. But time sensitive events are not.

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Right, the bible was not written to us. Not everything written pertains to us such as Matt 24. Things concerning Christ and salvation.

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Weak response. We didn't say bible is not edifying for us today but that not everything written pertains to us.

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No, I wasn't, but now that you mentioned it I forgot about snoping it first. I realize now that it isn't true. Please forgive me people.

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I am typing this from a FEMA CAMP!!!

You can tell a lot about a person by their conversation. I don't care if you claim to be a Christian or not, if you are always talking about the Devil or the Anti-Christ something is majorly wrong. The first commandment is to love the Lord your God. :2cents

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I have a nickname for Christians who always talk about doom and gloom. Doomers!

I guess the devil is so powerful that we have to just give up and give in.

Anybody who talks about the devil all the time must be on a short leash.

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Jesus was the greatest doomer of them all. He knows whats coming. No one says give up and give in. The point is to preach the whole counsel of God.

Jesus himself is the one that said MANY will be offended and hate each other and betray each other. That happens to many in times of persecution and tribulation.

The American Church is especially vunerable. Decades of false teaching or pre trib, no taking up the cross, no dying to self, no holiness and perfection has designed a whole new "Jesus".

Most cannot even bear to hear the testimonies of OTHER CHRISTIANS in parts of the Earth that are suffering now. Having their homes burned now. Having their families scattered, burned alive
and beheaded. Way to negative for us!

We need to get a book of Revelation mindset for end times. Bring back the power of God! Bring back the judgment of God! Bring back the preaching that Christ will come and put down the nations of men!

To be so caught up in post tribulation concepts so as to judge all doctrines by whether or not it presents doom to the believer is problematic and unhealthy. The bible does not focus on doom like that. It focused on life, and hardships are incidental.

The kingdom is not doom gloom and suffering, it's Righteousness, peace and joy in the holy ghost.

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Obviously that is not my point. My point is that the WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD is not being preached.

. All of us agree tribulation is the lot for all believers always. But to focus on it more than anything else is wrong. You once said at least Ihop is post tribulation. This should not be our stress. From the abundance of the heart.

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Right, tribulation seems to always be going on somewhere in the world. Go tell a someone starving to death in Africa they better get right tribulation is coming, I can imagine their resoonse.

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To twist something Jesus said would happen to them he spoke to and make for today is not the whole counsel of God.

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I didn't even watch it. I saw the first few seconds and realized it was some amateurish internet hack

I don't understand why everyone watches these youtube videos and believe it's true or believe something is true because they saw it on facebook

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Oh you thought that was a sin? Yes to me IHOP is far ahead of most "Apostolic" groups concerning end time truth as well as some other areas. Yes the end time truth is abundant in my heart but ALL the truth is abundant there.

Doom is a message preached by the prophets before you and me. God calls disaster upon sinning nations but first to the sinning Church members.

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Ok go back and read this again. Nothing there is addressed to you.

So you must try to twist it to fit yourself in! According to your logic that is.




2To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

7To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

1Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:

1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead 2And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:

1Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

2Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.

4To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.

1James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,

1The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.

Dont leave you much to stand on when you also take out the gospels which were of course written for the people BACK THEN!

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I hardly ever agree fully with what one teaches in a video. But if there is some powerful truth in it I accept it. My experience is many Youtube teachers have more truths than Church Pastors.