Seal the Borders! American Flu is EPIDEMIC!
 

Could you imagine the shock to our travel industry if that was the outcry of other nations concerning our flu epidemic that has killed 15 children-- an outbreak for which there is no cure?

While two thousand people may or may not die from the flu in America this flu season, many more THOUSANDS will become infected and get ill from the flu this season.

What should be the world's response to our flu epidemic? After all, those governments have a responsibility to protect their citizens!

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/15-chil...ry?id=27895739

Wait, I thought the flu vaccine was supposed to keep people from getting the flu! Oh, right, doesn't work because it's a different strain.

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Why - I have just the solution for this epidemic... drink elderberry syrup, that's what! I've got some in my refrigerator, and I'll be glad to share the recipe should anyone want it. :)

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I would like the recipe, please.
Thanks! :)

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Dude look up how many people die a year from the flu and tell me how 15 people dying is an epidemic? Its paranoia to sell meds. Thats it. Remember the swine flu epidemic?

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Elderberry Syrup
2/3 cup dried or fresh elderberries (dried can be bought at amazon.com or at local health food store)
3-1/2 cups water
2 tablespoons fresh or ground ginger
1 tsp cinnamon
1/2 tsp cloves, whole, or powdered
1 cup raw honey - best if bought from a local farmer

Mix ingredients, EXCEPT HONEY in a medium saucepan. Bring to a boil, reduce heat, and simmer for 45 minutes or so, until liquid has been reduced to half. Remove from heat, and let cool. Strain the mixture into a glass bowl or measuring cup. Add raw honey and stir well. Pour mixture into a 16-oz canning jar with lid. Label the syrup. Store in the refrigerator.

Standard dose is 1/2 tsp to 1 tsp for kids and 1/2 Tbsp to 1 Tbsp for adults. If the flu does strike, take the normal dose every 2-3 hours instead of once a day until symptoms disappear.

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My daughter got the flu over Christmas. We used the above recipe I posted, as well as other natural home remedies, and we didn't have to visit a doctor, and she was over the flu in a few days.

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If I start feeling sick, I add garlic cloves to various dishes. My wife hates the smell, but it works!

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Here's a novel idea: Take preventative measures and get a flu shot maybe?

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I started this thread to show the contrast in response between Ebola and flu-- both of which can be deadly.

At least for Ebola, there appears to be some kind of cure, else everyone who contracted it would die.

For the flu, there is no cure.

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Can't really compare Ebola and the flu. Each year, there are millions of people who become ill with the flu. Thousands die. The current Ebola outbreak has killed well over a thousand people, with the number infected far below those infected with the flu. As of yet, there is no cure for Ebola. The mortality is between 60-90%.

The overwhelming majority which become ill with the flu get better and live. The opposite happens with those who are infected with Ebola. You get Ebola, you die. Unless it's caught very early and you have connections to get you to Atlanta or Nebraska within a day or two.

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But there are treatments available for Ebola as only one guy died from Ebola here in the States and his was not caught by the hospital in Houston when he first went there.

I think the comparison can be made because the flu is more contagious than Ebola and like you said, thousands die every year from the flu.

Thousands don't die every year from Ebola.

In other words, death is more common from the flu than it is from Ebola.

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flu can only attack those with low immunity, which is why elderberry syrup and garlic work; they are immuno-boosters. High immunity = no flu. Ever.

Yes, but how many in the US have caught Ebola. Zero. How many have come to the US with Ebola and of that, how many died.

Two missionaries, one African, two other healthcare workers. Of those 5, one died.

Still think it's comparable to catching the flu?

Thousands may not die each year from Ebola, but how many GET Ebola each year?

Look at the raw numbers. Ebola has a much higher death rate. It may not be a common, yearly occurrence like the flu, but when it hits, the overwhelming majority die.

Not so with the flu.

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Thank you!! :)

Does it taste very bad?
I'm such a baby when it comes to
taking any liquid medicine! :bigbaby

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No, it tastes pretty good actually. It is purple in color, and can easily be mixed with some hot water or a cup of hot tea if you might like that better :) It is actually quite sweet and fruity tasting with a hint of spice.

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OK! Thank you! :thumbsup

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the bodies natural immune system takes care of the flu in most cases. The Flu exists everywhere, not just in America.

To say there is no cure is absurd. If that were true there would be a LOT more than 15 dead

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You are comparing apples and oranges.

BTW there IS a cure for the Flu, besides the bodies immune system, there is tamiflu

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BTW..NO Death is NOT more common from the flu. Fly to Africa and see how many died from Ebola

Just answer this, would you rather contract Ebola or the Flu?

BTW nobody puts on a full HAZMAT style suit to take care of patients with the flu...figure it out

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LOL

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There is no cure for the flu.
Tamiflu does not cure the flu.

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Exactly

Yikes. I would NOT take Tamiflu. It's a terrible, terrible drug. The BBC did a story on how ineffective it is against the flu. Not only does it not work most of the time, the side affects are awful. Kids have had mental breakdowns after taking this drug. Hallucinations, etc.

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Tamiflu is no different then the so called "cure" for Ebola. Both only work when given at the beginning stages of the infection.

So if tamiflu is not a cure then there is also no cure for the Ebola and a LOT more people should be dying

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Nearly EVERYTHING we can take as medicine has side effects and severe ones on certain people.

The BBC did not do a study. Someone else did and the BBC reported on it.

Its UK medical director, Dr Daniel Thurley, told the BBC News website: "The definitive piece of research stands as the randomised control trials, which were shared with the regulators, which led to them in 100 countries around the world approving Tamiflu for treatment and prevention of flu."
He said the Cochrane group had used the wrong statistics, which "systematically underestimate the benefits" of the drug, and used "unorthodox" methods to analyse the side-effects.

He concluded: "One of the challenges we have here is actually knowing what they've done."


Prof Wendy Barclay, who researches the influenza virus at Imperial College London, said reducing symptoms in children by 29 hours would be "pretty beneficial".
She told the BBC: "Tamiflu works as well as any drug we have now or [that] is on the cards.
"Yes, I think they should replenish the stockpile. What else can you do if a pandemic strikes? We won't have a vaccine for the first six months."
Continue reading the main storyProf Kevin McConway Open University
She also questioned the validity of the research as it analysed the impact during seasonal flu: "If it works a little bit in season flu, the chances are they'll work quite a lot better in a pandemic situation and get more people back to school and work."

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-26954482

Right, I said the BBC did a "story."

And there's more than one study on the effects of the drug.

I wouldn't take a flu shot, either. Side effects of that are worse than me getting the flu itself. And the last time I looked at the packing insert, it stayed the vaccine hadn't been tested against the flu.

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Duh. Sorry

BTW I take the flu shot every year. No side effects and no flu.

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BTW as far as the packaging insert. The way the flu vaccine is made is predictive and prescriptive. They predict the next strain to come about and make a vaccine.

Thats why it's not tested. By the time it's tested, everyone would have already gotten it lol

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Me too.:highfive

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I'm not doing the flu shot this year. I'll take my chances. I probably won't get one next year either. And by the way, to make sure we are all on the same page, there really isn't a cure for the flu.

Sorry, don't buy that explanation. There are several strains they have which they can test against. They don't.

Several on my team got flu shots last year. They all got sick within a week.

Never taken a flu shot, haven't had the flu since I was a teenager.

I don't do shots and vaccines, packed with toxins. I eat well, sleep well and use natural preventative means.

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amen to that.

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If JD would stop patting himself on the back for his astute observations during the Ebola scare and openly admit that his foreknowledge was lacking when he chose to vote for Obama, then I could stomach the horn tooting. But his constant efforts to make himself feel better about helping to put one of the all time worst president into office or to ignore entirely the huge gaffes and missteps this president has made this second term, wears thin on me.

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I work at a hospital and have for the past 5 years, I have not once gotten the flu shot and have not once contracted the flu.

Something is up when a woman causes an outcry because she refuses to be quarantined for ebola (I'm referring to a while back when the supposed nurse "Kaci Hicox" did this.) It was all over the news, she absolutely refused to go into quarantine, then you do a little background research on her and what do you find?

http://www.naturalnews.com/files/PDF...Conference.pdf

In this PDF on page 138, 5th row down, second column you will see that she was a student and graduated in 2012 in a 2 year program for the CDC. As a trained epidemiologist. Why would a trained epidemiologist refuse quarantine? Why would she be on the national news saying shes a nurse and not once stating she is an Epidemiologist?? As a branch the CDC models itself after the miltitary, they run counter intelligence and the whole nine yards, so why would she be so lax, being a trained officer, with something as serious as ebola, if ebola is a true threat?

Its a misinformation campaign to get americans to willingly request quarantine. Because everyone was so afraid of ebola there was an outcry to have her quarantined, thus getting the people to voluntarily offer up themselves for quarantine. Because of this situation a law was passed that changed the normal requirements for quarantine to allowing healthy people to be quarantined as well as the sick.... hmmmm. Officer trained by CDC? Each little law that passes like that just confirms the age we are in. Now I'm not saying this because I believe we should do something or anything because we can't and there is no use in fighting to preserve something that is going to crumble and fade away in the end anyway, if Gods word be true.

But either way as a christian, immunizations and shots and so on and so forth shouldn't even necessarily be a topic of discussion. The bible explains that all sickness and disease is a spirit multiple times, and you can't kill a spirit with a chemical.

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they can test against a strain. they can't test against a strain that has not mutated yet and THAT was my point. they can only test AFTER people start getting sick with it


There is no need to test it vs an old strain since they are using the old strains to make a new shot...Why would you test it vs an old strain when its the NEW strain we need to prevent?

Ive never gotten sick and I have been taking it every year for close to 15 years


Also the flu shot does not prevent the cold or other respiratory viruses.

What about people who get a seasonal flu vaccine and still get sick with flu-like symptoms?

There are several reasons why someone might get a flu-like illness, even after they have been vaccinated against flu.

1. One reason is that some people can become ill from other respiratory viruses besides flu such as rhinoviruses, which are associated with the common cold, cause symptoms similar to flu, and also spread and cause illness during the flu season. The flu vaccine only protects against influenza viruses, not other viruses.
2. Another explanation is that it is possible to be exposed to influenza viruses, which cause the flu, shortly before getting vaccinated or during the two-week period after vaccination that it takes the body to develop immune protection. This exposure may result in a person becoming ill with flu before protection from the vaccine takes effect.
3. A third reason why some people may experience flu like symptoms despite getting vaccinated is that they may have been exposed to a flu virus that is very different from the viruses the vaccine is designed to protect against. The ability of a flu vaccine to protect a person depends largely on the similarity or “match” between the viruses selected to make the vaccine and those spreading and causing illness. There are many different flu viruses that spread and cause illness among people. For more information, see Influenza (Flu) Viruses.
4. The final explanation for experiencing flu-like symptoms after vaccination is that unfortunately, the flu vaccine doesn't always provide adequate protection against the flu. This is more likely to occur among people that have weakened immune systems or people age 65 and older.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/misconceptions.htm

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Oh please tell us more. BTW do you handle snakes too?

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But President Obama is one of the best President's our country has ever had!

History books, when we're Granpa's, will talk about this time period and reflect on the effective leadership of Obama through these troubling times.

:heeheehee

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I think you might have a valid point with this being the begnining of the government trying to get us to willingly go along with something bizarre, in the future.

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It's hard to take some seriously when they lower themselves to tactics that teenagers use with their parents. Not to say I haven't used my fair share of sarcasm before but it never panned out in my favor. Also, disprove what I said and I will humbly concede, I'm not here to argue. I'm trying to learn, not be close minded and bellow my beliefs without willingness to hear others making fun of those I don't agree with... Destructive messages such as yours hinders the learning process for both yourself and I. Again, you disprove what I said and I will humbly concede. I don't want to be wrong and if I am I would like to know, because as of right now that's what I know to be true, you don't know anything unless your shown correct?