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Interesting article. Neat they included his testimony.

Reading the comments there once again affirms to me an observation I have had for the past 10 years or so: a frightening number of Americans are functionally brain dead.

Anti-christians are generally rabid, bigoted, barely literate, mouth-foamers looking to replay Kristallnacht.

Good grief.

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What if he is wrong on his interpretations. A lot to be explained if he is.

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Irvin Baxter might very well be wrong. For a long time, I leaned Historicist. Here's an interpretation I've considered and I'll share it here to see what some of your thoughts are on it:

The Revelation:

Chapter 1 Vision Begins

Chapters 2-3 The Seven Church Ages (Seven Church Ages)

Chapter 4 Vision of Heaven

Chapter 5 The Lamb Takes the Scroll
A. Scroll is God’s writing of divorcement against Israel.

Chapter 6 The Seven Seals (Judgments on Jerusalem)
A. Fist Seal: Military Advances against Israel by Vespasian.
B. Second Seal: War against Jerusalem lead by Titus
C. Third Seal: Famine in Judea and food shortages during Roman Siege
D. Fourth Seal: Pestilence resulting from Famine and Roman Siege.
E. Fifth Seal: Cry of the Martyrs for judgment on Pharisaical Israel
F. Sixth Seal: Destruction of Jerusalem 70 AD.
G. Seventh Seal: Preparation for Trumpets (Judgments against Rome).

Chapter 7 The 144,000 and the Great Multitude (Advent of the Church Dispensation)
A. 144,000 First Fruits: First Century Jewish Christians who fled to Pella.
B. Innumerable Multitude: The Gospel’s harvest among the Gentiles

Chapter 8 The Seven Trumpets (Judgments on Roman Empire)
A. Seventh Seal: Preparation for Trumpets (Judgment upon Rome)
B. First Trumpet: Hoards of Goths destroy Roman Country sides 408-410
C. Second Trumpet: Vandals Raid Roman Sea Ports
D. Third Trumpet: Huns Raid Roman river ways.
E. Fourth Trumpet: Odoacer invades Rome

Chapter 9 Plague of Locusts (THE RISE OF ISLAM - 150 Year Jihad & Rise of the Turks)
A. Fifth Trumpet: Mohammad rises to Power. Saraceans wage war 612-762
B. Sixth Trumpet: Turks wage war 1281-1672 AD.

Chapter 10 The Angel and the Little Book
A. Sufferings of the Faithful
B. Seven Thunders: Unknown

Chapter 11 The Two Witnesses and the Pit Beast (Spirit and Power of Moses & Elijah, Revived The Holy Roman Empire)
A. Two Witnesses: Spirit of the prophets operating in the Church Militant.
B. Pit Beast: Holy Roman Authorities
C. The 1260 Days: 1,260 Years of Testimony under Holy Roman Oppression
D. Death of the Two Witnesses: The Church’s seeming defeat
E. Seventh Trumpet (The Resurrection): Apostolic Revival and Rapture at the end of days.

Chapter 12 The Woman in the Wilderness (Church Persecuted)
A. The Woman: God’s covenant people (Israel)
B. The Dragon: Pagan Rome (Satan)
C. Birth of the man child: Birth of Christ
D. Ascension of the man child: Christ’s ascension.
E. Fleeing Woman: God’s Covenant People (Now the Church, the Israel of God)
F. 1,260 Days fleeing in the wilderness: 1,260 Years of persecution
G. “Wings of a Great Eagle” given unto the Woman: Flight to the Americas for religious freedom.
H. Flood out of the Dragon’s mouth: Persecution (False Doctrine)
I. Earth Opens it’s mouth: Divine Assistance given to the Woman

Chapter 13 The Beast/False Prophet and 666 (The Holy Roman Empire/Papacy)
A. Beast from the Sea
B. Deadly wound: Fall of Rome 476 AD
C. Deadly Wound is healed (554 AD)
Revival of Ancient Rome (The Holy D. D. Roman Empire is born 554-1814 AD).
a. Seven Heads - Incarnations of the Beast
b. Ten Horns: (Imperial Circles)
i. Austrian
ii. Bavarian
iii. Burgundian
iv. Electoral Rhenish
v. Franconian
vi. Lower Rhenish Westphalian
vii. Lower Saxon
viii. Swabian
ix. Upper Rhenish
x. Upper Saxon
D. Given authority for 42 Months (1,260 days): Allowed to Rule for 1,260 Years (554 AD – 1814 AD)
E. Wages war against the Saints: Inquisitions and Persecutions.
F. Lamblike Beast: The Papacy
a. Horns Like a Lamb: Looks Christian
b. Speaks like a Dragon: False Doctrine (Trinitarianism/Catholicism)
c. Calls fire down from Heaven: False Miracles
d. Make an Image: Idolatry (Saint Worship)
e. Image Speaks: Demonic influence from idols.
f. Causes all who will not worship idols to be put to death: Inquisitions.
g. Mark of the Beast: Symbolic of Submission to Papal Authority. MAY BE YET FUTURE WITH TECHNOLOGY

Chapter 14 The Harvest (Revival & Ingathering)
A. Angels preach the Gospel: Apostolic Revival
B. Harvest: Revival and/or Rapture
C. Winepress: Final Judgment

Chapter 16 The Seven Vials (Final Sequence of Wrath)
A. First Vial: Global Pestilence
B. Second Vial: Global Bloodshed at sea or Global Pollution of Seas
C. Third Vial: Global Bloodshed upon waterways or Freshwater Pollution
D. Fourth Vial: Global Persecution or Global Warming
E. Fifth Vial: Global Spiritual Darkness and Mental Distress
F. Sixth Vial: Global War centered in the Middle East
G. Seventh Vial: Opening of Judgment on Babylon

Chapter 17 The Eighth Beast and Harlot (Revived Holy Roman Empire/Papacy)
A. Eight Beast: Revived Holy Roman Empire (Modern Europe and Western Powers)
B. Harlot (Ecumenical Movement headed by Papacy)

Chapter 18 The Judgment of the Great Harlot:
A. “Come out of her my people” (Admonition to obey the Gospel or possibly the Rapture)
B. Collapse of Papal power in the Holy Roman Empire and/or Destruction of the City: Destruction of Vatican City (Papacy)

Chapter 19 The Return of Christ On a White Horse (Christ Returns Unexpectedly)

Chapter 20 The Millennium (Christ Rules the Millennial Kingdom for 1,000 years) and Final Judgment.

Chapter 21 The New Jerusalem (The Eternal State)

Chapter 22 Closing Visions

Olivet Discourse:

Luke 21:1-23 The First Century Persecutions Woes and Judgment on Jerusalem.
Luke 21:24-36 Brief Synopsis of the Entire Church Age Culminating in Christ’s Return.

Matthew 24:1-22 The First Century Persecutions Woes and Judgment on Jerusalem.
Matthew 24:23-51 Brief Synopsis of the Entire Church Age Culminating in Christ’s Return.

Pauline Son of Perdition:

II Thessalonians 2:3-8 The "son of perdition" is the Papacy asserting itself and sitting in the "temple of God" (the Church) saying that he is God (or the Vicar of Christ) on Earth.

Thoughts?

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He is "generally right" on his interpretations. The Church will go through the greatest tribulation ever known, then the rapture will happen. Jesus will take control of the Earth.

Thats about as close as we can narrow it down to at the moment.

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Somebody has to be wrong or right. For me I'm not sure I could take peoples money based on a possibility that I may be right.

There is a lot of focus on the Jewish State being wiped out or almost wiped out. He has been predicting a signing of a peace treaty for quite sometime now that will start a 7 year reign of the anti-Christ.

All of this is interesting but taking peoples money on speculation makes me nervous.

Here is a prediction:

"There's a horrific war coming. I wish it would never happen, but it is going to happen. The prophecies never miss." In that war, Baxter says, more than two billion people will die, and the United States will suffer greatly. "I wouldn't be surprised if we lose 25 million."

If it doesn't happen would it be considered a lie? Is it wrong to say it would be a lie? He is really sticking his head out there. Again, makes me nervous-lol.

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The only way to know for sure is to read and study the prophecies for yourself. From what I have studied, and I have been studying the book of revelation since the year 2000, his teachings match up perfectly with the bible. I also studied the left behind series in the past and it did not match scripture at all.

Read, study and get prepared. We are headed towards the greatest endtime revival, even greater than the Azusa street revival.

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Sorry, Irvin Baxter's teachings do not match the Bible "perfectly". His teachings are typical futurist speculations with no shred of verifiability.

Edited to add: he combines a bit of historicism with a lot of futurism, does not (that I know of) have any coherent and systematic approach to the general scheme or outline of Revelation, and (typical of futurism) interprets apocalyptic symbology by comparing it to popular symbols (bear in prophecy equals Russia cause bear is symbol of Russia in politics, etc).

That last is usually a big clue that a prophecy "expert" is simply making it up as they go along.

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Did brother Baxter claim that the End will have arrived by 2004? Kinda looks like it, according our good friend Cohen G. Reckhart...

http://jesus-messiah.com/html/baxter.html

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It doesn't really matter if he is right or wrong, we will soon find out for ourselves. You have to listen and compare it with the bible. Most of the comments online are made by people who do not believe in God or the prophecies at all.

I suggest to pray and diligently study the scriptures, God will take care of the rest.

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Are you saying Bible eschatology is determined by current events matching up with what is written in the scripture? Please forgive me If I'm not understanding your post. Please explain. :)

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Isn't that what prophecy means. How else would we know? All prophecies have to match up with what is happening in the world at the time they are taking place. Take a look at all the prophesies that were foretold in the past. If we are not paying attention to the times then we will miss them.

Matthew 24:32 “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. 33 Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it[e] is near, right at the door. 34 Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

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I find reading the comments of anything posted whether on the news sites, youtube, or anywhere... the people that take the time to post are generally obnoxious, hateful, and quite ignorant. I generally don't even read comments anymore.

But in relation to the original article... I don't get caught up in any one man's prophecies or understanding of "what is to come". My focus is on Jesus Christ, and if my heart is willing to follow Him where He leads, He is able to protect me, lead and guide through whatever storms our world may be facing. Certainly with the natural eye one can see a storm imminent on the horizon... but how it will all fit in with biblical prophecy is yet to be seen.

Our best hope is Jesus! Whether I live or whether I die, I am alive in Christ, and that is my hope. Generally the fear mongering that goes on with "prophecies" is generally followed by dollar signs ... and this I want no part of.

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I think this stuff makes more sense than Ervin Baxter...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dU7PqVd69M

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What I find interesting about the theory that the Antichrist will appear as the Islamic al Mahdi is that Islamic prophecy teaches that this al Mahdi will do exactly what the Bible states the Antichrist will do. It's a mirror image of Christian Futurism... and they have been expecting this for centuries. The Islamic jihadists that are destabilizing the entire planet right now are radicals who believe that al Mahdi is coming and they are essentially trying to throw the non-Islamic world into chaos so that he has the advantage when he appears. The goal of ISIS is to establish a purely Islamic State, a Caliphate. Why? Because the Islamic prophecies teach that this coming al Mahdi will assume leadership of a revival of the Caliphate. Should a miracle working "al Mahdi" appear... nearly 1.6 billion people would be prepared to embrace him and then kill or die for him... nearly overnight. The prophecies concerning the Temple Mount also feature in Islamic prophecy. The al Mahdi conquers the Jews and takes Jerusalem, offering worship and praise to Allah upon the Temple Mount. Many believe that the Jews have to rebuild their temple for the Antichrist to do this. However, as we speak there is a religious structure already built on the Temple Mount.. the Al Aqsa Mosque (Dome of the Rock). It is here the Islamic prophecy has the al Mahdi performing worship and praise to Allah for victory over the Jews. It is from here that he begins a global campaign to bring the entire world into subjugation to Islamic law (changing of times and laws for the entire world). Also, Islam is the only culture today that values "beheading" as an execution for unbelievers and apostates. The Revelation specifically mentions how the martyrs were "beheaded". Halal laws govern food and the economy in Islam. Should such a man gain power over the oil in the Middle East, gain control of the holy land, bring the global community of Muslims under his control, and acquire nuclear weapons... the entire world would be at his feet. Also, in Islam, the al Mahdi even marks his followers on the right hand or forehead. EVERYTHING is a mirror image of biblical Futurism. The most shocking thing is that this isn't a theory... it's happening right before our eyes on the news every night. On 9/11 we were propelled into a global war against radicals awaiting the al Mahdi... and he hasn't even arrived yet. We're already engaging his believers. It's now. And if this is so... the end could begin the moment it is reported that Islamic leaders are consulting with a man they believe to be the al Mahdi.

I have attached an image that shows three characters in on column written in Greek... the second column in Arabic praising Allah. Notice the similarity in the characters. In the Greek language... the Arabic symbols would mean, 666.

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Muslims have videos and banners warning their people to prepare to embrace him:

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The Abomination of Desolation... the temple needed is already built on the Temple Mount.

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There's a reason for that, but it ain't quite what people think.

Side note: MUCH of what you think is "muslim activity" isn't... it's directed by very definitely non-Islamic forces for certain reasons, and it goes back a long time. To the Ottoman conflicts and even back to the very founding of Islam.

Things are not what they seem. Also, it's pretty much been demonstrated quite clearly that "the media" is purely a control mechanism with various agendas. Trying to understand current events while relying on "da media" is not going to result in any accurate assessment of what's going on in the world... much less what bible prophecy is about.

Which, by the way, is mentioned in bible prophecy. :)

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Exactly what could be MORE of an abomination:highfive

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I believe that there will be a man who rises to power in the Middle East and he will be embraced as the al Mahdi. This man, I believe, will be the Antichrist. And the Caliphate that he establishes will be the Beast.

Here is an Islamic propaganda video directed to Sunnis about the al Mahdi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5B-LL1ObW4

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The bible nowhere says "the Antichrist willneed a temple on Mt Moriah."

The man of sin is found in the naos of God, a term Paul uses ONLY AND ALWAYS to refer to the CHURCH.

Revelation never mentions "Antichrist". The ONLY place "Antichrist" is found in scripture is in John's epistle. And he explicitly said that, in HIS DAY, MANY antichrists were on the scene. He further said WHOEVER denies Christ is antichrist.

Why people refuse to accept scripture truth, instead turning aside to FABLES is beyond my ability to comprehend.

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Islam teaches the following about the al Mahdi:

• He will be Islam's deliverer.
• He is to be a descendent of Muhammad.
• He is to bear the name or some variant name of Muhammad.
• He will look like a Bani Israel.
• He will lead the Muslims and wage jihad against them rest of the world.
• He will re-establish the Caliphate and rule over the world.
• He will cause Islam to be the only religion in the world and rule with Islamic Law.
• He will cause the world to embrace the Islamic calendar.
• He will be much loved by the world.
• He will conquer the Jews and slaughter them.
• He will set up his seat of authority in Jerusalem.
• He will rule for seven years (or 8, or 9).
• He will make a treaty of seven years with a person of priestly lineage.
• He will possess and distribute wealth to the Muslims.
• He will discover a new Torah, Gospel, and the Ark, and will use them to argue and persuade Jews and Christian, and cause many people to follow him into Islam.
• He will have Isa (Islamic version of Jesus) to assist him.
• His assistant, Isa, will kill the ad-Dajjal (Islamic version of the antichrist) who exercises miracles that will torment the world.
• He will mark all men to distinguish Muslims from the infidels, the Muslim's face will then shine while that of a non-Muslim will become black.
• During his rule, there will be good rain, great harvest and crops.
• He will not work miracles; rather the working of miracles is attributed to Isa (the Islamic Jesus) who testifies to the world that Al-Mahdi is Savior.

The Bible teaches the following regarding the Futurist version of the Antichrist:

• His power base will arise in the remnants of Seleucid Empire (which includes Assyria and Khorasan). *
• Some say he will be a Jew, others say he will be a gentile
• Starts humble, given authority to rule.
• People voluntarily give power to him.
• He is given power, throne and authority by the dragon.
• He changes his religion.
• Most Muslim states of the Middle East, except possibly Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The Bible states 10 nations, and three of them will be subdued.
• He will bring the entire world under subjection.
• By his words, will win over many people, including Jews and Christians. "By peace he will destroy many".
• Greatly loved by the world (after he conquers the world).
• Comes on a white horse, conquering (one interpretation).
• A large army of at least 200 million will assemble in Iraq region.
• Will wage war and no one can stand against him.
• Will rule for seven years (most common interpretation).
• Peace treaty of seven years with the people of God. This treaty will be broken in the middle of seven years.
• Will kill many Jews and Christians.
• Beheading is one of the methods of execution. It is a distinguishing mark of Antichrist.
• Will change the law.
• Will likely change the calendar. ("change the set times")
• Will cause deceit to prosper.
• Direct people to worship the dragon. Establish one religion in the world.
• Great prosperity and wealth. Distributes booty and land.
• Antichrist has Second Beast (False Prophet that is like a lamb but speaks as a dragon) to assist him.
• The Beast will kill the Two Witnesses who exercise miracles that will torment those who try to kill them.
• The Bible does not explicitly ascribe miracles to Antichrist. His assistant will perform miracles for him.

Another interesting point is that the Bible lists the nations that will form an alliance with the Antichrist. These nations are:

• Egypt, which he will attack and subdue (Daniel 11:42).
• Meschek and Tubal (most likely parts of Turkey, parts of Southern Russia, parts of Iran),
• Magog (a region convering parts of Turkey, Syria, and/or former Soviet Republics of Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, Chechnya, Dagestan),
• Persia (modern Iran and Iraq. Ancient Persia also includes Iraq. The Euphrates River in Iraq is also mentioned together with the two Beasts in Rev 16:12-13),
• Cush (African Cush covers parts of Egypt, Sudan, Ethiopia. Asian Cush covers Arabia through Euphrates),
• Put (Libya),
• Gomer (Cappadocia, Turkey),
• Togarmah (southeastern part of Turkey near Syria)

The reader should note… all these nations are predominantly Islamic peoples. Islam teaches that the army that comes to support the al Mahdi (with black flags) will come from Khorasan.

Where is Khorasan??? Afghanistan.

The ISIS militants destabilizing the Middle East are all Jihadists trying to prepare for al Mahdi. From Afghanistan to Iraq... what do they wave? Black flags.

http://www.khaama.com/wp-content/upl...ghanistan1.jpg

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sigh

Carry on.

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It should be noted that the Hebrew Bible identifies the Temple Mount in Jerusalem as Mount Moriah, as early as the First Temple period in the book of II Chronicles, around 1,700 years predating Islam's account.

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the Quran is a rip off of the NT, the OT, Gnosticism and Bedouinism with some pre-islamic paganism thrown in

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Please read this slowly and try to understand the point I'm trying to make. It is a point that illustrates something that we've NEVER seen in any Futurist "theory" regarding the Beast and the Antichrist.

I can understand the sigh. I mean, look at Futurism's record. For example Futurists have speculated the following:

- The United Nations would be the Beast. Never happened, too liberal and human rights oriented. No one in the United Nations had a plan or framework similar to the agenda of the Antichrist's.

- Gorbachev would be the Antichrist because of the birthmark. Dude was a neo-liberal who faded from politics. Gorbachev never had a plan or agenda similar to the Antichrist's.

- Reagan, nothing close to Antichrist potential. Reagan never had a plan or agenda similar to the Antichrist's.

- The European Union. But these countries are all very liberal and tend to distance from war or conflict. They've never had a plan or agenda similar to that of the Antichrist's.

... and the list could go on. So the knee jerk reaction to any Futurist thought is one of frustration and well... a "sigh". I know, I get it, and I've done it myself. But...

But this al Mahdi thing is unique.

The interesting thing is... these people DO believe in a coming leader who DOES have a plan or agenda nearly exactly like that of Futurism's Antichrist. They are already beheading people and trying to destabilize the entire world in preparation for his coming. They are already setting up for an agenda that DOES match that of Futurism's Antichrist. We're already engaging this al Mahdi's followers... and no one has come out claiming to be the al Mahdi... yet. This ISN'T a theory. Look at the flag draped coffins returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. Look at Ground Zero where the WTC once stood. These people are already at war with us. It's NOT a theory. People planning to embrace an agenda exactly like that of Futurism's Antichrist are already at war with us, killing our soldiers, beheading prisoners, demanding hundreds of millions in ransom, threatening Islamic nations who do not align with them, and are feverishly seeking nuclear weapons. Even if their "al Mahdi" doesn't appear and if he does he proves not to be the Antichrist... they have an agenda that mirrors that of Futurism's Antichrist... this is a fact.

You see... you've been conditioned by all the failed predictions of Futurism. Conditioned to sigh and roll your eyes because the agenda doesn't even exist in the suspected "Antichrists" of the previous "theories". But this isn't a "theory". It's truly a confrontation with people who want to fulfill the end time prophecies, their coming Savior doing exactly what we believe the future Antichrist would do. So it is entirely different.

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Yes... I agree. But are you getting my point? Please read my post above and share your thoughts.

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No...did you get mine?

They ripped off the bible, changed some names and locations

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Yes, I got your point. And I agree, they ripped off the Bible, changed some names and locations. But are you getting what I'm trying to say in post #26?

http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...9&postcount=26

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Frankly, if every Futurist gave up Futurism... the Islamic world will be trying to fulfill "Islamic prophecies" that mirror the very prophecies the Futurists abandoned. We've NEVER seen such a potential player in any Futurist theory of prophecy before. Even if we all became Full Preterist... they'd be advancing an agenda to unify under a chosen one, conquer Israel, and launch the bloodiest global campaign of terror this world has ever known... from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. And yes... they will "behead" Jews and Christians who do not convert.

Due to all of this Islamic insanity... 2014 was declared the bloodiest year regarding Christian persecution since... the time of Diocletian. That's REAL BIG.

2014: The Year of the Christian Genocide
http://www.breitbart.com/national-se...tian-genocide/

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This is the first time ever that denying a Futuristic prophetic theory... will not make it go away.

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Think about it. If the Muslims do unite under a man claiming to be the al Mahdi, the Preterists will say, "Yeah, but he isn't the Antichrist." And then when they march on Jerusalem and should they conquer it and declare the establishment of the final Caliphate, the Preterists will say, "Yeah, but this isn't the Beast of Revelation." When this Caliphate begins marking people in accordance to Halal to denote those who are allegiant to al Mahdi.. beheading those who refuse, the Preterists will say, "That isn't the mark of the Beast." When nations all over the world are clamoring to make a deal with this madman, the Preterists will say, "Yeah, but this guy who is essentially holding the world hostage isn't taking over the world like some Futurist Antichrist." And should the al Mahdi launch a war that cripples the West with nuclear weapons and the control of oil, the "Preterists still alive will be saying, "Yeah, but this isn't the final show down."

This is the first time in history that... agree or not... the very prophetic model Futurism has proposed is something 1.6 billion people are preparing to fulfill.

Do you see how DIFFERENT this Futurist position is now??? You can deny it and reject it. But these guys are real and already here. And their mission is to bring about events that essentially mirror almost exactly what Futurists have predicted. Denying this "theory" will not make it go away. This isn't a "theory"... this is an now our "reality". This is the threat the entire world is now facing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEai5zzEzlM

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Two can play with that logic of a point.

This manner of logic can be answered with a simple point... let's say futurism is not true. Futurists will forever be saying, "That did not pan out, but it's not over yet. It will come someday..." and can never be convinced otherwise.



When the Catholics were massacring protestants in the middle ages, that was real then and they were alive then, too. But it was not what the bible foretold, though you could not convince sme of the people of the time about that.

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For this to be true, and I've said it before... God expects us to understanding prophecy correctly by reading the Koran. Sorry, but that's bad fruit that exposes the whole concept's error.

You would not KNOW or conceive such a thing had you not researched false doctrine texts. So, the one who has understanding, according to Revelation 13, so that one can count the number of the beast requires knowledge of the Koran. That proves it's error to me.

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No...please phrase it like this "The point I am trying to make is..." and limit it to one short sentence with punctuation

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Good :thumbsup

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I have wasted too much of my life looking for the antichrist, signs & biblical codes that only one person can tell me by buying his book for $14.95!

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Like I said, the parallels exist for a reason. Anyway, for brother Blume... I would say the persecutions of the medieval and early modern period are very much found in prophecy.

But back to the Mahdi. I remember two decades ago it was Maitreya. Almost a BILLION Hindus plus several million New Agers all looking for Maitreya... who eould be considered God incarnate, would correct all religions, solve the mid east peace crisis, initiate an end to wealth inequality, end wars by establishing one united global government, one united economy, and one united religion. Almost a BILLION people looking for this guy.

Now that Islam is the political distraction provided for the West as designed, it's the Mahdi.

The futurist antichrist cannot be the "Mahdi" for the following reasons:

1. Futurism's concept of a singular, personal Antichrist at the end of days just prior to the Second Advent is error. If futurism is itself unscriptural error, then ANY prediction it makes about a supposed Antichrist must of necessity be error also.

2. But let's assume futurism is correct as a scheme of interpretation. The Mahdi still could not be the "Antichrist". According to futurism's interpretation if Daniel, the Antichrist will honour a god unknown to his ancestors. If the Mahdi honoured any god other than Allah, every Muslim would immediately rebel against him and his support base would evaporate overnight.

3. The Mahdi will supposedly impose Islam on the world. If he imposes anything BUT Islam, every Muslim would go into jihadi mode against him. The Mahdi would have no support and would BY DEFINITION not be al-Mahdi. So he must be Islamic and must bring the world into Islam. But who in the west would ever accept Islam? The Antichrist will supposedly lull the ENTIRE WORLD into submission and adoration. But if the Antichrist is Muslim imposing Islam BY LAW AND BY FORCE then NOBODY EXCEPT MUSLIMS would ever follow him. Which means the Antichrist would be nothing more than a jihadi Caliph waging war on the west - something we have been through SEVERAL TIMES BEFORE ALREADY. Crusades, anyone? Kosovo, Ordo Draconis, Templars? The Antichrist prophecies would have ALREADY BEEN FULFILLED hundreds of years ago!

4. Now we have the suggestion being made that the Mahdi in the al-Aqsa mosque is the man of sin in the temple of God. Need this be debunked? Seriously? The al-Aqsa mosque is the Temple of God? This is so obviously ridiculous as to not need a response other than to affirm "temple of YHVH" and Muslim mosque are NOT the same thing. Anyone who thinks otherwise is beyond help.

Now, no question the Mahdi myth is being manipulated by certain elements. ISIS for example? ISIS, a western creation and tool, is no more representative of general Islam than the Arabs were under Sir Lawrence. Oh wait... how many even know who "Lawrence of Arabia" was, and what his mission was? You know, the British military and intelligence specialist tasked with creating an Arabic (Muslim) "freedom fighter" outfit to destabilize the Arabian peninsula as part of Britain's protracted war against the Ottoman Empire... "wahabbi" anyone? Kind of like when the USA financed and set up an Arabic-run "freedom fighter" force to destabilize Afghanistan in a proxy war against the Soviets... that force being known as "al-Qaeda" and run by CIA contact Usama bin Laden of Saudi Arabia.

We live in days of deception. Futurism, sadly, is PART OF THE DECEPTION.

Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
 

Than I'll buy you a steak.


I'll throw on my welding mask because the nuclear flash has been know to burn the retinas right out of the eyes. Israelis have been chafing at the bit to use their nuclear weapons. Oh I forgot they aren't supposed to have nuclear weapons. Anyway, the United States would be more than happy to incinerate anyone marching towards Tel Aviv.



Then you will get to see the Caliphate hung upside down from Cypress trees, while a man with a CAT hat, overalls, and chawing REDMAN is asking his friends Boudreaux and Thibodeaux, to take a picture of him standing by the victims armed with his AK 47.

No, the Preterists will be saying that you all can buy property cheap is the Middle East, and gas is now 0.50 a gallon, because there is nothing left of the Mahdi and his bros but a faint shadowed outline left by the AN602 hydrogen bomb dropped on them.


Funny? When I was young, and in school, they had bomb drills which they would make us duck and cover under our school desks. Back then it was the Red Menace take your pick USSR, or Communist China. Both were supposedly bearing down on us, and we would hear warning sirens on television stations telling us in case of an emergency we would be warned where to get shelter. A movie called "the day after" scared all who watched in in the USA, and a movie called "Threads" flipped out all who watched it in the UK. I said all that to say this, every Empire has a boogie man, and if the boogie man gets too real the Empire goes out and places a bullet smack dab between his eyes.

I don't make these rules, but there is money to be made, and if a one world leader comes around and tries to grab all the cookies for himself, Then the rest of the kids are going to upset and place cyanide into his little milk carton.


Same devil, different dress. You aren't the first one to blow your horn and scream the sky is falling. You have a long list of individuals who had picked out world leaders to be the Antichrist. Napoleon, Mussolini, Adolf Hitler, Barack Obama, and (I don't know how they will do it, but someone will figure something out) Hillary Clinton? :heeheehee

We have always had bad guys, and bad guys have bad things happen to them. The United States of America has plans for their elite, and if anyone comes along riding a camel, and pointing an RPG at anyone... then someone will be more than pleased to saturate bomb their position.

I would hate to see these things happen, and know that it would bring death instead of life. Pray Aquila that what you are proposing never comes to pass, that my children, and Muslim children get a chance to grow up and have families of their own.

It is sad that the word Apocalypse is equated to destruction, and death, because it isn't about that, it is about revealing, an appearance, a revelation.

A revelation of Jesus and His Bride. :happydance

Re: Brother Irvin Baxter Jr Endtime Magazine
 

Hey can you buy me a steak? :)