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Jermyn Davidson 02-27-2015 09:05 AM

NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
I have heard mentioned casually over the years that police have traffic stop quotas to fill monthly but I never really knew for sure if the quota talk had any truth to it.

Now not only am I sure there are traffic stop quotas, but it is confirmed that at least one city has arrest quotas!

Does that irk you?


http://news.yahoo.com/ny-police-offi...222416173.html

n david 02-27-2015 09:19 AM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
I knew about the ticket quotas, but not about arrest quotas. It's especially bad if you live in a city which is incorporated.

Jermyn Davidson 02-27-2015 09:25 AM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1360972)
I knew about the ticket quotas, but not about arrest quotas. It's especially bad if you live in a city which is incorporated.

It's shameful and sad. Arrest quotas! Who would have ever thought that to be true?

Jermyn Davidson 02-27-2015 09:29 AM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
No potential for civil rights violations with arrest quotas in place, right? :(

Pressing-On 02-27-2015 10:03 AM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1360976)
No potential for civil rights violations with arrest quotas in place, right? :(

Seems a good idea to make sure the police aren't getting paid to ride around or eat doughnuts. I am very sure there are enough violators to meet both quotas - tickets and arrests. Go find 'em boys.

Jermyn Davidson 02-27-2015 10:20 AM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1360982)
Seems a good idea to make sure the police aren't getting paid to ride around or eat doughnuts. I am very sure there are enough violators to meet both quotas - tickets and arrests. Go find 'em boys.

You don't see the potential for abuse in policy like that?

Did you read the article? The officer felt pressured to make arrests when his judgment could have lead him to do otherwise.

Pressing-On 02-27-2015 10:42 AM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1360986)
You don't see the potential for abuse in policy like that?

Did you read the article? The officer felt pressured to make arrests when his judgment could have lead him to do otherwise.

Unjustified stops? There are plenty of violators without unjustified stops. I did read the article. I would need to know more. I don't see a problem with stop and frisk if an officer is suspicious toward an individual. Unreasonable search and seizure, however, shouldn't be violated.

Jermyn Davidson 02-27-2015 10:53 AM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
The officer felt pressured to make arrests when the situation didn't warrant arrests because of the arrest quota policy adopted by NYPD.

n david 02-27-2015 11:13 AM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
On one hand, I agree with PO, it's good to make sure the officers are doing their job and not just driving around checking out the scenery. On the other hand, I do see the potential for abuse.

I think the lesson here is: be on your best behavior, when driving around towards the end of each month. :nod

Jermyn Davidson 02-27-2015 11:30 AM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
We can ensure the police are doing their jobs WITHOUT arrest quotas.

n david 02-27-2015 11:35 AM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1361003)
We can ensure the police are doing their jobs WITHOUT arrest quotas.

Not sure I agree with arrest quotas. I could see the reason for citation quotas.

Jito463 02-27-2015 04:14 PM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
In this case, I do agree with Jermyn that arrest quotas are not the way to go. Ensuring that officers are actually doing their job is one thing. Requiring them to arrest a certain number of people as a means to ensure it, is not the correct approach, however.

Pressing-On 02-27-2015 08:37 PM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1360996)
The officer felt pressured to make arrests when the situation didn't warrant arrests because of the arrest quota policy adopted by NYPD.

So, what you are saying is that this officer is admitting that he violated his oath?

I DO SOLEMNLY DECLARE UPON MY HONOUR AND CONSCIENCE THAT I WILL ACT AT ALL TIMES TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND KNOWLEDGE IN A MANNER BEFITTING A POLICE OFFICER

I WILL PRESERVE THE DIGNITY AND WILL RESPECT THE RIGHTS OF ALL INDIVIDUALS

I WILL DISCHARGE MY DUTIES WITH INTEGRITY AND WILL PROMOTE UNDERSTANDING AND CONCILIATION

I WILL EXERCISE MY AUTHORITY AS A POLICE OFFICER IN THE MANNER INTENDED BY THE LAW

I WILL FAITHFULLY OBEY THE ORDERS OF MY SUPERIORS AND WILL BE READY TO CONFRONT DANGER IN THE LINE OF DUTY

I WILL ACT WITH HONESTY, COURTESY AND REGARD FOR THE WELFARE OF OTHERS, AND WILL ENDEAVOUR TO DEVELOP THE ESPRIT DE CORPS

I WILL ACT JUSTLY AND IMPARTIALLY AND WITH PROPRIETY TOWARDS MY FELLOW OFFICERS

I WILL CONSTANTLY STRIVE TO HONOUR THIS OATH IN MY SERVICE AS A POLICE OFFICER

whoiskaiser77 02-28-2015 04:37 PM

Re: NYPD Had Arrest Quotas to Fill
 
Jermyn most cops have good days and bad days. I guess you're like me in hoping that you wouldn't want to be stopped and frisked and arrested by a cop who was having a bad day and was trying to fill his quotas.


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