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Esaias 07-01-2015 12:58 AM

Unvaccinated children will be refused healthcare
 
http://www.kvue.com/story/news/healt...ents/29509167/

"AUSTIN -- The Austin Regional Clinic takes the lead in Central Texas when it comes to vaccines after the clinic announced they will no longer accept children as patients if the child isn't vaccinated starting Wednesday.

...

ARC reports that most of its 400,000 patients -- adults and children -- have their vaccinations. But Ziari said the number of non-vaccinated patients continues to rise. She said she does not have an exact number.

votivesoul 07-01-2015 01:18 AM

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My wife's best friend from ABI, who now lives in IA, was refused health care a few months ago for her baby because he wasn't vaccinated.

She had fed her son some Beech Nut brand food, and the next day there was blood in his stool. Came to find out that Beech Nut had just ordered a recall on the very item because glass had gotten into the ingredients.

And the hospital refused them because they didn't vaccinate their children.

They chose a vaccine over a possible life and death situation. I guess the Hippocratic Oath means nothing to some of the ones who take it.

thephnxman 07-01-2015 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1381237)
My wife's best friend from ABI, who now lives in IA, was refused health care a few months ago for her baby because he wasn't vaccinated.
She had fed her son some Beech Nut brand food, and the next day there was blood in his stool. Came to find out that Beech Nut had just ordered a recall on the very item because glass had gotten into the ingredients.
And the hospital refused them because they didn't vaccinate their children.
They chose a vaccine over a possible life and death situation. I guess the Hippocratic Oath means nothing to some of the ones who take it.

About thirty years ago, they would not allow children in school w/o vaccinations.

So they are starting to play a little hardball. The next step would be denying children nutrition!

Evang.Benincasa 07-01-2015 06:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1381236)
http://www.kvue.com/story/news/healt...ents/29509167/

"AUSTIN -- The Austin Regional Clinic takes the lead in Central Texas when it comes to vaccines after the clinic announced they will no longer accept children as patients if the child isn't vaccinated starting Wednesday.

...

ARC reports that most of its 400,000 patients -- adults and children -- have their vaccinations. But Ziari said the number of non-vaccinated patients continues to rise. She said she does not have an exact number.

How about non vaccinated children who have no been vaccinated for religious reasons?

Esphes45 07-01-2015 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1381236)
http://www.kvue.com/story/news/healt...ents/29509167/

"AUSTIN -- The Austin Regional Clinic takes the lead in Central Texas when it comes to vaccines after the clinic announced they will no longer accept children as patients if the child isn't vaccinated starting Wednesday.

...

ARC reports that most of its 400,000 patients -- adults and children -- have their vaccinations. But Ziari said the number of non-vaccinated patients continues to rise. She said she does not have an exact number.

I knew this was coming about 10 years ago. Call me a prophet. I talked about this very thing with someone about 10 years ago. It was be nationwide within a couple of years.

Now all these churches who don't believe in vaccinating their children, what do you do now? Obey the law of the land? Or never take your child to a hospital again?

Soon you won't be able to get in school without being vaccinated. A religious exemption will not work anymore. The medical field is not playing anymore.

Esphes45 07-01-2015 09:57 AM

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I just want to add. If you feel like you should have the right to be exempted because of your religious beliefs then think about it. People that believe in gay marriage and abortion can make that same argument.

If the religious right fights this in court, they will be opening the door for legal arguments for abortion and gay marriage.

This particular issue (vaccinating children) is a security issue. A child from another country can come here with smallpox and affect other children in school and cause an epidemic. That is just one example.

commonsense 07-01-2015 12:34 PM

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In the 1950s we were ALL vaccinated. Most often done by school nurse in the school. There were Christian Science students, and they were exempt.:bigbaby

It would appear to be more socialist medicine and socialist style legislation.

Not that I am against some guidelines. Many of the illegals are bringing us TB and smallpox.


Just a side note for those for or against vaccines______the vaccines of 2015 are totally different chemical cocktail then that from the 50s.
I do think it requires personal research. Not a religious matter but a medical decision.

Praxeas 07-01-2015 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Esphes45 (Post 1381300)
I knew this was coming about 10 years ago. Call me a prophet.

Let's not and say we did

Pragmatist 07-01-2015 09:19 PM

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Religious objections aren't the main reason for people not vaccinating their children anymore. Parents are questioning the side effects of more and more vaccines as autism rates and auto-immune diseases greatly increase. The mandatory vaccine laws are being pushed by the pharmaceutical companies who profit from vaccines and are exempt from liability.

Evang.Benincasa 07-01-2015 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pragmatist (Post 1381384)
Religious objections aren't the main reason for people not vaccinating their children anymore. Parents are questioning the side effects of more and more vaccines as autism rates and auto-immune diseases greatly increase. The mandatory vaccine laws are being pushed by the pharmaceutical companies who profit from vaccines and are exempt from liability.

I totally understand that, but what about those who have gotten their religious exemptions?

Esaias 07-01-2015 10:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1381395)
I totally understand that, but what about those who have gotten their religious exemptions?

You mean those parents who don't want government mandated healthcare, but send their children off for government mandated education?

You eat at the king's hall, you follow the king's etiquette.

As for those who think this is a security issue, that's funny right there. If an unvaccinated child comes in contact with vaccinated children, how is the unvaccinated child a security threat to the others? Answer: they aren't.

Soon, it will just be flat out illegal to be anything but a drone in the hive.

votivesoul 07-01-2015 11:33 PM

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Anyone here live in CA?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...accination-law

From the article:

Quote:

Starting July 1, 2016, all children enrolled in public or private schools or day cares must be vaccinated against whooping cough, measles and other diseases, regardless of parents' religious and other personal beliefs.

votivesoul 07-01-2015 11:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1381410)
Anyone here live in CA?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-w...accination-law

From the article:

To refuse means either:

1.) The child must be homeschooled
2.) A part of an independent learning environment
3.) Have a special dispensation from a doctor alleviating the child from the need to be vaccinated (e.g. the child needs to have an immunity disorder).

Evang.Benincasa 07-02-2015 03:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1381397)
You mean those parents who don't want government mandated healthcare, but send their children off for government mandated education?

You eat at the king's hall, you follow the king's etiquette.

As for those who think this is a security issue, that's funny right there. If an unvaccinated child comes in contact with vaccinated children, how is the unvaccinated child a security threat to the others? Answer: they aren't.

Soon, it will just be flat out illegal to be anything but a drone in the hive.


This is the post of the day. :thumbsup

Esphes45 07-02-2015 05:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1381397)

As for those who think this is a security issue, that's funny right there. If an unvaccinated child comes in contact with vaccinated children, how is the unvaccinated child a security threat to the others? Answer: they aren't.

Everyone is not vaccinated. That is the goal of the law. I think its like 30% of children are not vaccinated. (huge number)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/03/health/the-unvaccinated/

So if a child or grown up comes from Africa with some contagious disease. (Didn't this just happen?) and infects somebody and it spreads. Then what?

Chaos.

People walking around in masks.

Evang.Benincasa 07-02-2015 09:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esphes45 (Post 1381528)
Everyone is not vaccinated. That is the goal of the law. I think its like 30% of children are not vaccinated. (huge number)

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/03/health/the-unvaccinated/

So if a child or grown up comes from Africa with some contagious disease. (Didn't this just happen?) and infects somebody and it spreads. Then what?

Chaos.

People walking around in masks.

THE SKY IS FALLING! RUN AWAY!

http://reactiongif.org/wp-content/up...scared-GIF.gif

Esaias 07-04-2015 04:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1381552)

Notice the typical communist-style answer: Instead of prohibiting infected persons from entering the country, let's demand all innocent citizens be forced to have Lord only knows what injected into their bodies....

Esaias 07-04-2015 04:20 PM

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The SAME people claiming you have no right over your own body (to refuse vaccines) are the same ones claiming women have every right over their body (to kill unborn children) or that "gay" men have every right over their own body (to abuse themselves with others in a life style known to spread disease and death)...

Esaias 07-04-2015 04:20 PM

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It's not about logic, people. It's called "war".

Evang.Benincasa 07-04-2015 04:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1381794)
Notice the typical communist-style answer: Instead of prohibiting infected persons from entering the country, let's demand all innocent citizens be forced to have Lord only knows what injected into their bodies....

But of course, don't you understand that THEY just want us to be safe. It's for our own good. We need THEM to protect us. THEY know what's best for us. THEY don't want anything bad to happen to us. THEY just want us to go to sleep, sleep, sleep, sleep.

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/mp/kgEy73rj7jZx.gif

Esaias 07-04-2015 04:27 PM

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Poppies!!!

That book actually explains quite well what's been going on.

Evang.Benincasa 07-04-2015 04:29 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1381800)
Poppies!!!

That book actually explains quite well what's been going on.

Ooops!

You got the message! :heeheehee

Monterrey 07-04-2015 05:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1381397)
You mean those parents who don't want government mandated healthcare, but send their children off for government mandated education?

You eat at the king's hall, you follow the king's etiquette.

As for those who think this is a security issue, that's funny right there. If an unvaccinated child comes in contact with vaccinated children, how is the unvaccinated child a security threat to the others? Answer: they aren't.

Soon, it will just be flat out illegal to be anything but a drone in the hive.

Oooooooooooooooh! Loving it!

TyronePalmer 07-05-2015 01:47 PM

Re: Unvaccinated children will be refused healthca
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1381236)
http://www.kvue.com/story/news/healt...ents/29509167/

"AUSTIN -- The Austin Regional Clinic takes the lead in Central Texas when it comes to vaccines after the clinic announced they will no longer accept children as patients if the child isn't vaccinated starting Wednesday.

...

ARC reports that most of its 400,000 patients -- adults and children -- have their vaccinations. But Ziari said the number of non-vaccinated patients continues to rise. She said she does not have an exact number.

Is there any vaccine for Ebola? How about a vaccine for nuclear fallout? Soon enough it's not going to matter if a child is vaccinated or not.

Is there a vaccine for famine? And how many people have died over the years from diseases (like the black plague) that have no vaccines?

Esaias 07-05-2015 03:06 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TyronePalmer (Post 1381852)
Is there any vaccine for Ebola? How about a vaccine for nuclear fallout? Soon enough it's not going to matter if a child is vaccinated or not.

Is there a vaccine for famine? And how many people have died over the years from diseases (like the black plague) that have no vaccines?

I hear they are working on a vaccine for common sense. Although the way things are going, it appears to already have been released...

Evang.Benincasa 07-05-2015 03:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TyronePalmer (Post 1381852)
Is there any vaccine for Ebola? How about a vaccine for nuclear fallout? Soon enough it's not going to matter if a child is vaccinated or not.

Is there a vaccine for famine? And how many people have died over the years from diseases (like the black plague) that have no vaccines?

Now that you posted the above they will be working on a vaccine for thermonuclear radiation.

Also for death, they will be working on a vaccine to prevent death. :nod

Esphes45 07-07-2015 08:41 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1381796)
The SAME people claiming you have no right over your own body (to refuse vaccines) are the same ones claiming women have every right over their body (to kill unborn children) or that "gay" men have every right over their own body (to abuse themselves with others in a life style known to spread disease and death)...

I do not believe anyone has the right to force their religious beliefs on anyone else.

Gay Rights to Christians is a religious issue.
The right to choose to Christians is a religious issue.

Therefore I believe you can't let a non-believer get an abortion because you believe it is wrong.

I'm not blocking the entrance to any abortion clinics.

The same thing with gay rights. As long whatever is done is in the privacy of your home and/or it doesn't infringe upon me, we're good. I will pray that the gay people overcome and move on.


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