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n david 07-22-2015 07:52 AM

Trump 2016
 
Since there's not a thread for his legendary campaign (which he owns)...

Trump is winning another poll, but for the wrong reason. Trump's unfavorability numbers are spiking in a few swing states (and this poll was done before his comments about McCain and POWs):

"In Colorado, 58 percent of those polled have an unfavorable view of Trump; 57 percent in Iowa and 61 percent in Virginia."

Poll

As I've stated previously, Trump is far too arrogant and too much of a jerk to be considered as a serious candidate. It was only a matter of time before people got tired of his juvenile fights.

n david 07-28-2015 08:39 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
A new Monmouth NH Poll today shows Trump still in double-digit lead over nearest Republican challenger. Trump is at 24%, Jeb Bush is at 12%, with others in the single digits. This poll was completed after Trump's disparaging comments about Sen McCain, showing that it hasn't hurt him as the majority of pundits thought (hoped) it would.

Poll Link (PDF)

Bowas 07-29-2015 04:42 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
I heard too, Trump is now leading with the Hispanics, which shows a couple of things. The Hispanics cannot be duped by the rhetoric of the liberal media hype and the Hispanics do not want the criminal element in the USA that was prevalent from whence they came.

deacon blues 07-30-2015 07:57 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
He may be leading the polls but that's with 16 other competitors. When the field thins, his support won't increase much because his remaining competitors' supporters will transfer to them instead of him. As it is, 75% of Republicans polled DO NOT support a Trump candidacy.

deacon blues 07-30-2015 08:05 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Remember Michelle Bachmann led the polls in the summer of 2011 for a while and so did Herman Caine. 16 months before an election is an eternity.

n david 07-30-2015 08:30 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
I agree, it's very early in the race. Too early to judge a frontrunner. It's fascinating to me that Trump has been able to withstand his remarks on Mexico and his remarks against McCain. I don't plan on voting for Trump unless he does the impossible and wins the nomination. But I admit, it's refreshing having a candidate who isn't worried about polls and who isn't compromised by donations from lobbyists and people like the Koch brothers. Trump doesn't need Koch money and is free from their influence, and I think that's great! I wish more candidates weren't bankrolled by special interests and lobbyists.

Conservatives warn about Trump's past liberal leanings, yet ignore the fact that the Koch's may be fiscally conservative, but socially are very liberal.

The debates will be very interesting, and could shake up the polls.

I doubt Trump will go very far into the primary. He may not even make it to the Iowa caucuses, because, IMO, he's too arrogant and brash. People expect more from a Presidential candidate than playground name calling.

I expect, as people see him in the debates, Trump's polling numbers will fall significantly and he'll withdraw from the race. He's already said he wouldn't waste money on a campaign if it appears he can't win. Thus far, he hasn't really been vetted on policy and issues. That will change with the debates, when he's forced to give details on the issues.

Pressing-On 07-30-2015 08:27 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
I'm having lots of fun listening to him. LOL!

This is a great article. I'm not certain that he will fade. If he runs third party, then he really planned on a being a spoiler in the first place.

I watched a 1988 interview with Trump and Oprah. He had the same talking points he has today.


Quote:

How Cruz, Fiorina, and even Trump are Saving the Republican Brand

Donald Trump won't be getting my vote in the GOP presidential primary. However, contrary to popular belief, I'm grateful he's put the GOP on life support, and he isn't alone. Ted Cruz, Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson and Marco Rubio are doing what's been unseen since Ronald Reagan--speaking above the political and media elite and connecting directly to the people.

For those of you who are concerned that Trump is sucking the air out of the room, you're right! Fortunately, for us it's a lot of hot air from the left and Cruz and Fiorina are smart enough to realize it.

http://townhall.com/columnists/carlj...2031923/page/2

Pressing-On 07-31-2015 10:36 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
LOL! Trump Game from 1988.

http://media.breitbart.com/media/201...p-the-game.jpg

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...s-fun-as-hell/

n david 07-31-2015 11:14 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
I remember that game! :lol

Pressing-On 08-02-2015 02:02 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Lordy!! Heads will roll in the Democratic Party if this happens. LOL!

http://conservativetribune.com/wp-co...rump-tweet.jpg

n david 08-04-2015 12:45 PM

Okay, this was very well played by The Donald.

A week or two ago, The Donald was upset with something Lindsay Graham said and released Graham's cell phone number to the public during a campaign event.

Graham responded by releasing a video of him destroying his phone in many different ways. The point, apparently, was that he doesn't want to be bothered by people's calls.

Enter Gawker. Today, they thought it would be funny to release The Donald's cell number on its website or in a tweet.

The Donald's response was brilliant! Instead of getting angry, which is what I thought would happen, he changed his phone greeting into a short, 30 second campaign clip directing people to his website and asking people to donate to his campaign. Then he tweeted out a thank you to Gawker.

Well played, The Donald, very well played indeed.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donal...ry?id=32875155

Pressing-On 08-04-2015 01:35 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
I love it! Ran across the link this morning. One of his supporters commented - "Political Judo". Hahahahahahahahaha!

Breitbart is saying that Cruz is wise not to attack Trump as a lot of Trump's base are also for Cruz.

The bottom line - Americans are sick of both political parties and they want someone to fight against them. Cruz has much more to lose fighting against the Establishment Republicans as a Senator. But, I also love how Trump is criticizing them all. He has always been fiscally conservative, although he hasn't always been socially conservative, involving on issues. He looks more like a Libertarian, which many in the Republican party are.

deacon blues 08-04-2015 01:38 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1385946)
Okay, this was very well played by The Donald.

A week or two ago, The Donald was upset with something Lindsay Graham said and released Graham's cell phone number to the public during a campaign event.

Graham responded by releasing a video of him destroying his phone in many different ways. The point, apparently, was that he doesn't want to be bothered by people's calls.

Enter Gawker. Today, they thought it would be funny to release The Donald's cell number on its website or in a tweet.

The Donald's response was brilliant! Instead of getting angry, which is what I thought would happen, he changed his phone greeting into a short, 30 second campaign clip directing people to his website and asking people to donate to his campaign. Then he tweeted out a thank you to Gawker.

Well played, The Donald, very well played indeed.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donal...ry?id=32875155

I'm liking the Trump candidacy more and more.

Pressing-On 08-04-2015 01:42 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1385951)
I'm liking the Trump candidacy more and more.

If he won the primary, I would vote for him. I love listening to him speak. :heeheehee

MawMaw 08-04-2015 01:49 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Trump/Cruz ticket would be nice! :nod

n david 08-04-2015 01:53 PM

Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump would make both party's heads explode!

Pressing-On 08-04-2015 01:54 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1385955)
Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump would make both party's heads explode!

:toofunny

:thumbsup

Pressing-On 08-04-2015 01:54 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MawMaw (Post 1385954)
Trump/Cruz ticket would be nice! :nod

Cruz/Trump. :thumbsup

Although, a LOT of Republicans are pushing for a Governor. I had someone block me from their Twitter account because I pointed out that although Scott Walker has fought the Unions, he doesn't appear to be one for standing on principle against his own party and Ted Cruz has. Ticked her off, apparently. :toofunny

MawMaw 08-04-2015 01:59 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1385955)
Trump/Cruz or Cruz/Trump would make both party's heads explode!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1385957)
:toofunny

:thumbsup

:nod :happydance :thumbsup

Pressing-On 08-05-2015 10:33 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
I haven't paid too much attention to Trump except for the speech clips. But I got to thinking, I wonder how people will receive his wife (Melania) who is very pretty and very "foreign" in her speech? She became an American citizen in 2006. Will Americans want that?

This is the first clip I grabbed (having nothing to do with the Birther video) that appears recent - 2011.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011...ificate-video/

jfrog 08-07-2015 12:09 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1385463)
I'm having lots of fun listening to him. LOL!

This is a great article. I'm not certain that he will fade. If he runs third party, then he really planned on a being a spoiler in the first place.

I watched a 1988 interview with Trump and Oprah. He had the same talking points he has today.

I honestly am amazed at how smart he was to threaten the possibility of running third party.

Consider that if it comes to a close choice between trump and any other republican that such a statement may garner him extra support just out of fear that he will defect to third party and ruin the other candidates chances if he doesn't get the nomination.

Definitely may cause some to give him the nod for the republican nomination in a close race. Possibly reasoning that it's better to have Trump than to have Trump run third party and have the Democrats win again.

And the thing is, everyone can believe trump would consider running third party if it came to that kind of a situation. Genius move on his part IMO.

jfrog 08-07-2015 12:12 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1385387)
He may be leading the polls but that's with 16 other competitors. When the field thins, his support won't increase much because his remaining competitors' supporters will transfer to them instead of him. As it is, 75% of Republicans polled DO NOT support a Trump candidacy.

I second this message! As Candidates start dropping out I look for more of their supporters to go to other candidates than to Trump.

The field is just too diluted with too many candidates to make anything out of Trump leading at the moment.

jfrog 08-07-2015 12:17 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1385463)
I'm having lots of fun listening to him. LOL!

This is a great article. I'm not certain that he will fade. If he runs third party, then he really planned on a being a spoiler in the first place.

I watched a 1988 interview with Trump and Oprah. He had the same talking points he has today.

He's the only really interesting republican candidate at the moment IMO... that's for sure.

Pressing-On 08-07-2015 10:03 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1386224)
I honestly am amazed at how smart he was to threaten the possibility of running third party.

Consider that if it comes to a close choice between trump and any other republican that such a statement may garner him extra support just out of fear that he will defect to third party and ruin the other candidates chances if he doesn't get the nomination.

Definitely may cause some to give him the nod for the republican nomination in a close race. Possibly reasoning that it's better to have Trump than to have Trump run third party and have the Democrats win again.

And the thing is, everyone can believe trump would consider running third party if it came to that kind of a situation. Genius move on his part IMO.

It was a smart move on his part. His reasoning is that it is "leverage" against the Establishment GOP, which no one trusts at all.

In essence, he is saying that if he is up and the polls and somehow the GOP knocks him down, he will run third party and win or make them lose. They aren't driving the election this time around.

n david 08-07-2015 10:06 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Who do you think won the debate, PO? I read a CNN opinion piece which claimed Trump, Paul, Christie and Kasich were winners. :lol

Pressing-On 08-07-2015 10:21 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1386254)
Who do you think won the debate, PO? I read a CNN opinion piece which claimed Trump, Paul, Christie and Kasich were winners. :lol

Trump and Cruz won the debate. :thumbsup Really, except for Jeb Bush, I liked them all and think that Carly will move into the top tier after her debate. They all made some good points on various issues.

n david 08-07-2015 10:37 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1386260)
Trump and Cruz won the debate. :thumbsup Really, except for Jeb Bush, I liked them all and think that Carly will move into the top tier after her debate. They all made some good points on various issues.

I thought Cruz and Rubio were the best.

Pressing-On 08-07-2015 11:16 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1386264)
I thought Cruz and Rubio were the best.

Yes, they were. Did you notice they didn't ask Cruz one question for 40 minutes?

Did Cruz Trump Trump?

But there is one lingering question from last night’s fiasco that will likely portend a possible change in the dynamic of the race – the emergence of Ted Cruz as the man to replace Donald Trump as the candidate with the ability to tap into the anger, disquiet, and desperate hopes of the GOP base. While most of the candidates seem to have solid moments and heartfelt convictions on an issue here or there, one man always stands out as having the full passion, depth of knowledge, resoluteness, fighting spirit, and inviolable record on almost every issue of our time.

That man is Senator Ted Cruz.

- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/C....JENAlKES.dpuf

n david 08-07-2015 11:26 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
I did. I didn't like the format. They had a long stretch of time where it was only a few candidates talking.

Pressing-On 08-07-2015 11:27 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1386277)
I did. I didn't like the format. They had a long stretch of time where it was only a few candidates talking.

So Walker and Bush got the most questions. That allows you to know where Fox is going with this.

My issue with Walker and Bush is that they criticized Ted Cruz for the Obamacare filibuster, fear mongering that we would lose big in 2014. Cruz said we would win big if we fought for what we promised - a repeal. Rand Paul also left Cruz and Mike Lee on the Senate floor. He lost my support that day.

Cruz's prediction was right - if you stand on principle, you will win - and we did win. I want principle and I want courageous. That is Ted Cruz.

n david 08-08-2015 10:55 AM

Not going to watch the Red State event, since Erickson dis-invited The Donald.

He claims The Donald was talking about menstruation in a comment aimed at Megyn Kelly and that it was too far. He mentioned needing common decency.

This coming from the same guy who regularly uses the word feminazi's and who called someone a "goat [expletive] child molester."

Like he should be one preaching about common decency!

It's obvious the GOP is putting the pressure on to try and get Trump out of the race. First Megyn Kelly and FoxNews' hatchet job of a debate and now Erikson's hypocritical rescinding of Trump's speaking invitation at Red State.

Scott Pitta 08-08-2015 12:23 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
I don't think Trumph takes the run seriously. Is Rubio good enough for the presidency ?

Pressing-On 08-08-2015 08:40 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1386324)
Not going to watch the Red State event, since Erickson dis-invited The Donald.

He claims The Donald was talking about menstruation in a comment aimed at Megyn Kelly and that it was too far. He mentioned needing common decency.

This coming from the same guy who regularly uses the word feminazi's and who called someone a "goat [expletive] child molester."

Like he should be one preaching about common decency!

It's obvious the GOP is putting the pressure on to try and get Trump out of the race. First Megyn Kelly and FoxNews' hatchet job of a debate and now Erikson's hypocritical rescinding of Trump's speaking invitation at Red State.

Erick Erickson is in it for Jeb Bush. You could certainly see that at the Red State event today. I thought he was going to get on his knees and polish Jeb's shoes.

And people are still hot, hot, hot over Megyn Kelly's assault. Many are posting her sexual photo shoots she preened about on Fox News - one was from an earlier time and worse than the 2010. Hang it out there and call it "Sexism" if men respond to it - what stupidity - hypocrite.

I heard Trump's comment and didn't take it that way, David. I would admonish Trump to post every single hypocritical, trashy tweet that the "Seminar" attending Erik Erickson has tweeted - hypocrite.

Red State had to close it's Comments section, there was so much anger toward Erick for uninviting Trump. They had a Q&A at the end. They should have let the audience have him. Over lunch, Erick selected and read all the "over the top" Tweets saying these represented Donald Trump. He was trying to prove he had done the right thing by leaving Trump out. LOL!

All I wanted from Donald Trump was to fight and win the war on Political Correctness. However, calling people names is not the way to go about it.

Fox News should NOT have turned that forum into biased moderating. They can make all the excuses they want. It was unprofessional for a Presidential Debate. They turned it into a reality tv episode. And getting each candidate into a hostile ring with their questioning was a new low.

I would note that Ted Cruz wasn't fazed by the hostility. He didn't get off message. Chris Wallace said that Cruz has amazing verbal ability. Guess they'll try to throw him under the bus a little later down the road.

Cruz going after McConnell and the losers in both parties is a lot more meaningful than the Megyn Kelly business, anyway.

MawMaw 08-08-2015 09:07 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1386362)
Erick Erickson is in it for Jeb Bush. You could certainly see that at the Red State event today. I thought he was going to get on his knees and polish Jeb's shoes.

And people are still hot, hot, hot over Megyn Kelly's assault. Many are posting her sexual photo shoots she preened about on Fox News - one was from an earlier time and worse than the 2010. Hang it out there and call it "Sexism" if men respond to it - what stupidity - hypocrite.

I heard Trump's comment and didn't take it that way, David. I would admonish Trump to post every single hypocritical, trashy tweet that the "Seminar" attending Erik Erickson has tweeted - hypocrite.

Red State had to close it's Comments section, there was so much anger toward Erick for uninviting Trump. They had a Q&A at the end. They should have let the audience have him. Over lunch, Erick selected and read all the "over the top" Tweets saying these represented Donald Trump. He was trying to prove he had done the right thing by leaving Trump out. LOL!

All I wanted from Donald Trump was to fight and win the war on Political Correctness. However, calling people names is not the way to go about it.

Fox News should NOT have turned that forum into biased moderating. They can make all the excuses they want. It was unprofessional for a Presidential Debate. They turned it into a reality tv episode. And getting each candidate into a hostile ring with their questioning was a new low.

I would note that Ted Cruz wasn't fazed by the hostility. He didn't get off message. Chris Wallace said that Cruz has amazing verbal ability. Guess they'll try to throw him under the bus a little later down the road.

Cruz going after McConnell and the losers in both parties is a lot more meaningful than the Megyn Kelly business, anyway.

:nod :thumbsup

n david 08-09-2015 08:47 AM

Watched a clip from what CBS news covered last night, and they claimed Trump was dropped from the event over a comment on which he claimed Megyn Kelly's questioning was due to hormonal issues.

That's not what Trump said! I'm upset about this lie which has spread, so I can't imagine how angry Trump must be about it.

How much should he fight back against the claim and at what point should he move on?

Monterrey 08-09-2015 09:07 AM

Re: Trump 2016
 
The bush camp is afraid that Trump is going to pull another Pert and lose the presidency to Clinton.

Esaias 08-09-2015 02:57 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Monterrey (Post 1386385)
The bush camp is afraid that Trump is going to pull another Pert and lose the presidency to Clinton.

Considering Trump is a democrat liberal for the most I d say that's the Plan... use Trump as the cover for Hitlery stealing the election. TThey'll blame it on Trump and the Repubs will stay in the system, prattling on about"next election" so the Socialist BiParty can stay in power.

Pressing-On 08-09-2015 03:57 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1386375)
Watched a clip from what CBS news covered last night, and they claimed Trump was dropped from the event over a comment on which he claimed Megyn Kelly's questioning was due to hormonal issues.

That's not what Trump said! I'm upset about this lie which has spread, so I can't imagine how angry Trump must be about it.

How much should he fight back against the claim and at what point should he move on?

There is so much backlash against Megyn Kelly on the Internet that Fox has some serious security concerns. I was so thankful that Greta (although not always agreeing with her) commented that there is some irony to Erick Erickson snubbing Trump after his own Tweets disparaging women. LOL!

The reality is that a pretty good percentage of Republicans, understanding it's about 30%, are so ticked off at the GOP Establishment that they will forget everything and support Trump. We are not, as yet, on the level of governing, but on the level of protest. That is a huge problem for the Republicans. What that means is that if Trump loses ground, the next candidate will have to pick up the pieces. If it's not the right candidate, we will lose. There is only one person that could consolidate the mess - Ted Cruz. Walker did fine at Red State, but not at the level of Cruz, and that's a fact.

Some of the people at Breitbart are saying that the plan for the GOP and Fox News is to take out the top two candidates. Right now, that is Trump and Cruz.

This morning, Chris Wallace framed the narrative around an inevitable Jeb Bush. Looking like a Deja vu Mitt Romney, isn't it? Watch for this. Heard Laura Ingram say that Jeb is the tortoise in the race. Already framing it before the primaries are over - Deja vu Mitt Romney. Watch for this in every interview with all the Fox News pundits in the ensuing days ahead.

But, look at what Jeb Bush did at Red State on Saturday. He stuck to conservative talking points, didn't go very near the Common Core issue. When asked, he said we need higher standards, whatever they are, and moved on. He does have a good record as a governor, but through the years he has made statements in favor of amnesty and his Common Core stance is not conservative at all. He kept his true nature in check. That is deceitful. Most glaringly, important, IMO, is that he went against Ted Cruz's advice to filibuster ACA on principle causing us to win big in 2014. All that means is that at the end of day, we are back to agreeing with a Senator Majority Leader like McConnell. That is who he and Scott Walker will be. I don't want that. And again, I lump Rand Paul into that group as well. He also bailed.

Pressing-On 08-09-2015 04:17 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Thousands sign petition to keep Megyn Kelly out of future GOP debates

A petition posted Friday to change.org demands that Fox News ban Megyn Kelly from participating in any further GOP debates. By Sunday afternoon, that petition had garnered over 27,000 signatures.

http://www.examiner.com/article/thou...re-gop-debates

https://www.change.org/p/news-corp-r...blican-debates

Pressing-On 08-09-2015 04:48 PM

Re: Trump 2016
 
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!! I LOVE THIS!!!!!! He is still using the most over the top emails to support his decision, as though we don't know that.

It's not a long article, but worth the read - when you make Americans mad, be afraid, be very afraid. LOL!

If he didn't have his own disparaging Tweets against woman, this article wouldn't be so sweet. :heeheehee


What Happens When You Rescind an Invitation to Trump?


By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | August 9th, 2015 at 06:17 PM

http://www.redstate.com/2015/08/09/w...tion-to-trump/


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