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jfrog 07-24-2015 07:15 PM

Are all things possible with God?
 
Are all things possible with God?

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 07:25 PM

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Why?

jfrog 07-24-2015 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1384761)
Why?

Even salvation without tongues?

jfrog 07-24-2015 07:51 PM

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Perhaps true apostolics should humble themselves and pray that you are actually wrong about salvation. Pray that you have been mistaken about baptism and Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues being required for salvation. Pray this for all those that have already passed away having never heard that gospel and pray this for all those that will pass away having never heard that gospel. Pray this for all those that have heard and rejected this gospel. Pray this for every martyr of all time, of the past present and future that was not baptized in Jesus name or did not speak in tongues.

If you truly believe all things are possible with God would you pray this for all those souls which are at stake?

Abiding Now 07-24-2015 08:05 PM

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:laffatu

n david 07-24-2015 08:05 PM

Uh, what???

jfrog 07-24-2015 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1384769)
Uh, what???

If all things are possible with God, will you pray to God that you are wrong about salvation requiring baptism in jesus name and the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues?

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384770)
If all things are possible with God, will you pray to God that you are wrong about salvation requiring baptism in jesus name and the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues?

Why?

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384765)
If you truly believe all things are possible with God would you pray this for all those souls which are at stake?

Hey, I'd like to pray for all souls to have a steak! :happydance

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 08:44 PM

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Nice thick juicy medium rare, with vidalia onions :nod

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 08:45 PM

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Oh, and a side order of frog legs! :highfive

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 08:49 PM

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Jfrog have you ever had the Baconator over at Wendy's?

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 08:49 PM

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They also have the son of Baconator!

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 08:51 PM

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60 grams of protein! :happydance

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 08:53 PM

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970 calories in one sandwich!

:highfive

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 08:58 PM

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If all things are possible with God, couldn't you pray and a McRib would actually have real rib meat instead of some sort of meat substance pressed into a rib looking shape?

jfrog 07-24-2015 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1384783)
If all things are possible with God, couldn't you pray and a McRib would actually have real rib meat instead of some sort of meat substance pressed into a rib looking shape?

Yea. I suppose it's easier to make jokes than to actively hope and pray you are wrong out of compassion and love.

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384786)
Yea. I suppose it's easier to make jokes than to actively hope and pray you are wrong out of compassion and love.

I suppose, but should we all pray that God isn't the God of the Bible and pray that the Hindu Vedas are true and that we constantly go through death and rebirth until we get it right and move on to Nirvana? No Jfrog, I mock because I think you are funny, and that what you are proposing is immature childish and silly. It has nothing to do with loving more, or loving less, and because you have never understood (and frankly could careless)about the God of the Bible, and His religion. You start farcical threads. Which in themselves are a mockery.

So, be a good chap and treat yourself to a Baconator at Wendy's.

jfrog 07-24-2015 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1384787)
I suppose, but should we all pray that God isn't the God of the Bible and pray that the Hindu Vedas are true and that we constantly go through death and rebirth until we get it right and move on to Nirvana? No Jfrog, I mock because I think you are funny, and that what you are proposing is immature childish and silly. It has nothing to do with loving more, or loving less, and because you have never understood the God of the Bible, and His religion you start farcical threads. Which in themselves are a mockery.

So, be a good chap and treat yourself to a Baconator at Wendy's.

I didn't ask you to pray that God wasn't the God of the bible. Only asked you to pray that you have misunderstood who the bible is saying God is. There's a major difference there wouldn't you agree?

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384788)
I didn't ask you to pray that God wasn't the God of the bible. Only asked you to pray that you have misunderstood who the bible is saying God is.

But why stop there? Why not just pray for all sorts of religious scenarios?

If you have a problem with the God of the Bible, there are many other religions, sects, or even UFO cults which you can pray to be true.

jfrog 07-24-2015 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1384789)
But why stop there? Why not just pray for all sorts of religious scenarios?

If you have a problem with the God of the Bible, there are many other religions, sects, or even UFO cults which you can pray to be true.

Did I say pray the God of the bible wasn't the God of the bible? No. I said pray that you have misunderstood something about who you believe the God of the bible is.

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384790)
Did I say pray the God of the bible wasn't the God of the bible? No. I said pray that you have misunderstood something about who you believe the God of the bible is.

Well, who do you think HE is?

jfrog 07-24-2015 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1384792)
Well, who do you think is?

Do you mean "who do you think he is"?

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384793)
Do you mean "who do you think he is"?

Who do you think he is?

jfrog 07-24-2015 10:12 PM

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I'm still trying to figure out what's so hard about just praying that you have misunderstood what the bible says about salvation.

Why would you want to do that? Because you know full well that if your current understanding is correct that many have been lost that professed Christ, that died for Christ, that believed in Christ but never heard the "plan of salvation" as you all call it. You also know full well that many more will continue to do so.

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384795)
I'm still trying to figure out what's so hard about just praying that you have misunderstood what the bible says about salvation.

Why would you want to do that? Because you know full well that if your current understanding is correct that many have been lost that professed Christ, that died for Christ, that believed in Christ but never heard the "plan of salvation" as you all call it. You also know full well that many more will continue to do so.

Why would I do what?

No offense, but are you a vegetarian?

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 10:17 PM

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Jfrog is your current understanding correct? Do you want to tell us? Should we pray about your current understanding and see if we get a burning in the bosom to know if it is truth?

jfrog 07-24-2015 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1384794)
Who do you think he is?

Couldn't say. Just know that I'd be hoping and praying I was wrong and had somehow missed something if I understood the bible to be claiming that many would have faith enough to be put to death for Christ and would still be lost. I'd be hoping and praying I was wrong and that I'd missed something in my understanding if I thought people that profess christ today could be put to death for their faith and still be lost.

jfrog 07-24-2015 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1384797)
Jfrog is your current understanding correct? Do you want to tell us? Should we pray about your current understanding and see if we get a burning in the bosom to know if it is truth?

Dunno if I'm right but my understanding isn't going to have believers and professors of Christ who have died for him in hell. So I don't really see a need to pray that i'm wrong. Maybe we could all pray that what I am saying is right? Maybe we could pray that we hope jfrogs understanding on that isn't wrong?

What do you say?

jfrog 07-24-2015 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1384796)
Why would I do what?

No offense, but are you a vegetarian?

Nope. I eat much fewer vegetables than I should.

....

As far as the first question I'll copy and paste you the reason that i think you overlooked:

Why would you want to do that? Because you know full well that if your current understanding is correct that many have been lost that professed Christ, that died for Christ, that believed in Christ but never heard the "plan of salvation" as you all call it. You also know full well that many more will continue to do so.

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384798)
Couldn't say. Just know that I'd be hoping and praying I was wrong and had somehow missed something if I understood the bible to be claiming that many would have faith enough to be put to death for Christ and would still be lost. I'd be hoping and praying I was wrong and that I'd missed something in my understanding if I thought people that profess christ today could be put to death for their faith and still be lost.

Well, then you have to consider that you are wrong about more than just your soteriology? You're whole theology could be wrong? You might not even exist outside of yourself. We all may be part of your ego, and therefore once you come to full enlightenment and awake we might all cease to exist?

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384800)
Nope. I eat much fewer vegetables than I should.

....

You eat a lot of carbs, big bread, grain eater, sandwiches, white potatoes?

Eat more protein, good fats, and you will stop having thoughts like this...

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384800)
As far as the first question I'll copy and paste you the reason that i think you overlooked:

Why would you want to do that? Because you know full well that if your current understanding is correct that many have been lost that professed Christ, that died for Christ, that believed in Christ but never heard the "plan of salvation" as you all call it. You also know full well that many more will continue to do so.

I'm real sorry, but I really don't get what you are trying to say?

Evang.Benincasa 07-24-2015 10:46 PM

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Wow, imagine if Heaven's Gate was true? :tinfoil

Esaias 07-25-2015 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384798)
Couldn't say. Just know that I'd be hoping and praying I was wrong and had somehow missed something if I understood the bible to be claiming that many would have faith enough to be put to death for Christ and would still be lost. I'd be hoping and praying I was wrong and that I'd missed something in my understanding if I thought people that profess christ today could be put to death for their faith and still be lost.

You admit you "couldn't say" who you think God is. That is, you admit to being clueless about who is God. Which means you are a functional agnostic, at best.

Yet, admittedly having no clue about God, you pretend to have an opinion about salvation, and prayer, and the moral, ethical, and spiritual condition of Christians, such that you fancy we "ought" to be doing something you "think" we should do.

And do you realise, Mr Frog, that this is nothing more than purely emotional desire on your part, with utterly NO rationality to it whatsoever? No logic involved at all? That such things are differentiated from the instinctive motions of, say, beetles, only by your ability to cluster phonemes together into sounds you once learned to imitate back when you were a child? That you have allowed yourself to become in actuality not much more than a brute beast trained in imitating human speech?

Doesn't that concern you?

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2015 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1384806)
You admit you "couldn't say" who you think God is. That is, you admit to being clueless about who is God. Which means you are a functional agnostic, at best.

Yet, admittedly having no clue about God, you pretend to have an opinion about salvation, and prayer, and the moral, ethical, and spiritual condition of Christians, such that you fancy we "ought" to be doing something you "think" we should do.

And do you realise, Mr Frog, that this is nothing more than purely emotional desire on your part, with utterly NO rationality to it whatsoever? No logic involved at all? That such things are differentiated from the instinctive motions of, say, beetles, only by your ability to cluster phonemes together into sounds you once learned to imitate back when you were a child? That you have allowed yourself to become in actuality not much more than a brute beast trained in imitating human speech?

Doesn't that concern you?

:thumbsup

jfrog 07-25-2015 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1384806)
You admit you "couldn't say" who you think God is. That is, you admit to being clueless about who is God. Which means you are a functional agnostic, at best.

Yet, admittedly having no clue about God, you pretend to have an opinion about salvation, and prayer, and the moral, ethical, and spiritual condition of Christians, such that you fancy we "ought" to be doing something you "think" we should do.

And do you realise, Mr Frog, that this is nothing more than purely emotional desire on your part, with utterly NO rationality to it whatsoever? No logic involved at all? That such things are differentiated from the instinctive motions of, say, beetles, only by your ability to cluster phonemes together into sounds you once learned to imitate back when you were a child? That you have allowed yourself to become in actuality not much more than a brute beast trained in imitating human speech?

Doesn't that concern you?

Hey, it's always easier to attack the messager than the message they deliver.

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2015 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384849)
Hey, it's always easier to attack the messager than the message they deliver.

So, you always revert to a position of victim when your words get served back to you? Come on, you made a challenge not a plea for prayer and love. You are a hater, you hate us, and what we represent to you. So you were bored last night and decided to come to AFF to start a hater thread. :)

So, is that what the frog means? Is it one of your favorite small animals to torture?

Listen, you don't get enough exercise, and protein, so go get two triple Baconators from Wendy's! :yahoo

jfrog 07-25-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1384851)
So, you always revert to a position of victim when your words get served back to you? Come on, you made a challenge not a plea for prayer and love. You are a hater, you hate us, and what we represent to you. So you were bored last night and decided to come to AFF to start a hater thread. :)

So, is that what the frog means? Is it one of your favorite small animals to torture?

Listen, you don't get enough exercise, and protein, so go get two triple Baconators from Wendy's! :yahoo

More attacks on the messenger instead of the message...

Evang.Benincasa 07-25-2015 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1384854)
More attacks on the messenger instead of the message...

More playing the victim in attempts to show humble piety.

It doesn't work.

jfrog 07-25-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1384855)
More playing the victim in attempts to show humble piety.

It doesn't work.

And yet another attack...


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