This guy and church isn't Pentecostal!!! (Pt2)
 

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uHSVVCJiYZQ

Very good message from the past, has America learned anything?

Racism, just as real as it ever was. God help us !

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He wasn't even a christian.

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Ahh that's it, here it comes.
Tell us what u really think.

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He was a Communist agitator, adulterer, and a pervert.

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If you study your Bible God used plenty of people with way worse character traits. For instance David was all of those and he was a murderer. I'm not making excuses for the mans sin but he did do great things for the civil rights movement, and equality in America. And as a minority I thank God for it.

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Would you agree that David, and any other Bible character were used by God were used for a specific reason to bring forth Messiah? Especially King David.

MLK being equated with Biblical characters is like taking George Washington or Harriet Beecher Stowe to line them up with the champions of faith in Hebrews 11. While MLK worked for civil rights, he didn't preach Jesus name baptism, he didn't teach One God, and the necessity of speaking in other tongues as the Spirit gives the utterance. Now, whatever you may believe concerning those three points I just mentioned, there are others on this forum (including myself) who believe those points are very important. While you may like the speeches of MLK, or Billy Graham, and see these men as saints of God, others just don't share your opinion. You do understand that?

You do know that MLK was a socialist?

What do you know about his relationship with Bayard Rustin?

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Excuse me, but Houston isn't telling you what he thinks, he is telling you what he knows of MLK. This is an Apostolic One God Jesus name forum, therefore Houston's statement in his post is normal for this arena. While people in this forum may hold varying views, still the forum main thrust ( I hope) is Apostolic Pentecost. Also the latter portion of your post where you posted "tell us what u really think" almost sounds like you think he made the comment out of some racial motivation. I don't believe that the case here, because he is stating the obvious. MKL didn't preach or teach the necessity of Acts 2:38, One God, or anything else remotely considered Apostolic. Also MLK was never baptized in Jesus name, and was a Trinitarian. So, posting "here it comes" had absolutely nothing to do with what you perceived concerning Houston's intent .

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It is very insightful and it must've taken much prayer to understand that Martin Luther King died lost and that he did not believe in acts 2:38, You are a genius. I commend you and Houston for revealing this to all of us here. :highfive


All jokes aside,
Esaias introduced the subject of baptists sounding like Pentecostals. And if you notice my statement didn't end with a question my statement ended with an exclamation point. I was kind of making fun of the previous thread that he started. But my post had double entendre, with the relevant factor of racism in America today. Remember my brother you and I both would not be allowed on this forum or be able to use a public restroom with whites, if it were not for men and women who raised their voice to fight for civil liberties.

You know me, and the others on this form also know that I believe in Acts 2:38 or hell, absolutely and unequivocally it must be obeyed to even begin living for God. If a person goes through life and does not obey Acts 2:38 they have no remote chance of making Heaven their home. ( that is of course if you believe in heaven as a place that you will go when you die. ) lol
Regardless of what the J.Badejo says. And the other Trinitarian godsdrummer.

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Just pointing out one post that you posted to Houston.


I totally understood that, that's why my comment comes later in the thread and only dealing with reply posts you made to Houston, and Easias.

Many in the black community believe MKL vision has yet to be even realized. Some in leadership say that it is reversing itself, ever since the advent of gangster rap in the mid 80s, and how blacks are portrayed in society. Look at major cities and their communities you still have segregated neighborhoods, schools, businesses, even churches. This isn't just an American problem, it is a worldwide problem. What is the majority of the pigment color of the untouchables "Scheduled Castes" in India? Dark black. In Islam there is a major anti-black sentiment, even though the first man to call Muslims to the adhan, Bilal Ibn Rabah was a freed black slave. Sorry, but racism is what carnal men believe, and the only way to rid racism is to have men truly follow Christ in Jesus name.

Sicilians (which is my ancestry) Greeks (by marriage) were placed in segregated areas, because of language and culture. They still had to deal with prejudice, but over time the purchased the buildings of those who barred the way to these immigrants. I never heard any story of my Sicilian grandparents being not being allowed to use a restroom in the city of New York where they came to settle.

Who on this forum doesn't believe in heaven when they die? I know GD and J. Badejo believe in a heaven. That's an odd statement.

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I was making a double jab at preterism, and those 2 guys because they believe that acts 2:38 isn't necessary to salvation and you blasted me. Just having fun is all, no offence.

oh and,
thrs tons of evidence regarding racism against la mia famiglia on my moms side.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Italianism

If you read it is sure does sound like an echo of what we are hearing in the news today regarding Mexicans.

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"One of the largest mass lynchings in American history was of eleven Italians in New Orleans, Louisiana in 1891. The city had been the destination for numerous Italian immigrants.[11] Nine Italians who were thought to have assassinated police chief David Hennessy, were arrested, tried and acquitted. Subsequent to the trial, a mob stormed the jailhouse, dragging the men out and lynching them, together with two other Italians who were being held in the jail at the time on unrelated charges.[12] Afterward, the police arrested hundreds of Italian immigrants, on the false pretext that they were all criminals.[13][14]"

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So, those who believe in Preterism don't believe in heaven?

Excuse me, you haven't been blasted by me.

But I see you are trying to get this conversation pointed in the wrong direction.

Is that what you want to do?

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If you are comparing the Italians who were lynched in New Orleans with the blacks lynched all the way to the last lynching in 1953 in Fort Lauderdale Florida. You would be insulting the black community.

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Hey bro. Dominic,
You talkin to me?
So you're a tough guy now huh?
OK, I'll meet you at the bike rack at 3 o'clock. :happydance

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I don't think I have to qualify myself but just in case someone misunderstands me. I do not compare the Democratic Party of the 60s to the Democratic Party of today. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are preaching to differ message and politics and the things that John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King Junior stood for. Prior to his death 1963 President John F. Kennedy was close allies on the civil rights front with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. The cause for civil rights and equality amongst moral people has been blurred by the entrance of the homosexual, comparing themselves with injustice that of the African-American in the mid 1900s and prior.

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Taking jabs, and then when confronted you go feeble? :heeheehee

That's funny.

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You just sounded, kinda, high school is all. :boxing

I went to 5 different high schools. (not proud of it.)

Just brought back memories of almost 30 years ago.

But if you'd like to come over, we could have a sidewalk session?
:thumbsup

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Really?

Altercations in those 5 different high schools started out with questions concerning theology? Then the opposing individual wanting to know why you were picking a fight concerning a topic not being discussed? Interesting.

Oh well. :coffee2

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nice come back, lol D.

I know where you tie your goat.

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No, I think I just got your's. :lol

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MLK was a communist agitator. Like all communists, he put on a front, but behind the scenes he was full of evil. The guy had just as much religion as Lenin or Marx. He was not a champion of civil rights but working to destablize and overthrow America.

Comparing him to king David is dumb.

Methinks your perceived "minority status" has blinded you to some inconvenient truths and facts.

Which basically puts you in the same boat as Sharpton and the other race pimps.

Jmo.

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I care nothing about the doctrine of this forum.

When I say that MLK wasn't a Christian, it is because he denied the deity of Christ.

Look up the papers he wrote in college.

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*Kinda' like Calvin & Luther - both of whom were murderers & not biblical Christians. See the clip-link below for evidence that this spirit still exists among denominal "Christians" (be sure to watch to the very end):

http://apostolicacademics.com/2015/0...-of-calvinism/

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I just posted that you didn't make your comment because of some racist motivation.

Well, actually this would indicate that you do care about doctrine? Because there are "Christian" groups who didn't believe that Jesus was God. Yet, in theological circles they are still under the category of Christian. You seeing him as not a Christian because of that one point shows that you are either pointing out that MLK is not a Christian to the forums standards, or you only believe to be a "Christian" one has to believe Jesus is God. :)


Interesting, since you know more about this than I could you please post those papers in this thread? I would like to read them.

Thank you :)

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Thank you :)

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Martin Luther king jr was trying to gain support from anyone he could. In fact I can't find the books but I found in more than one occasion he preached at many PAW churches. There was several references to his tight alegences with paw preachers. Saying that he may have experienced Acts2:38 later on in his 30s. He died a snipers death from an man with ties to the KKK at 39 . Who knows what he really believed when he died? If I find the articles on-line I will share them. Or I will scan and post the literature.

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Brother Perez could you please post the information concerning MLK's dealings with One God Pentecostals? That would be very interesting to read.

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I know that you would have liked me to compare him with Balaam's donkey. That is probably how you look at minorities and racial injustice- racism, just like Iranian leadership looks at the holocaust as if it never existed.

On the other-hand..

I was only able to find these two things so far, about Martin Luther Jr’s Apostolic affiliation, recognition, and beliefs.

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The first is a video ( You can listen to it as I did. ) there are many pictures of many COOLJC leaders.
It is a honorary service for the his work by the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ of the Apostolic Faith.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q47ToyphjY

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The second is a Personal letter he wrote while in a Birmingham jail with his most current views of Christianity at age 34yrs, to those that think he a was a communist, Marxist or otherwise. It was written 8 months before Kennedy’s assassination.

http://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles...irmingham.html

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Oh and I might add he had many other Pentecostal affiliations.

His last speech was at one of the largest Black Pentecostal churches seating over 7,500 the night before he was assassinated.

Here is the Link.

http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/civilrights/tn1.htm