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When AMC was still going on there used to be a website that had their messages available. It has since been taken down. I have found a few messages here and there on various websites but I am wondering if there is anywhere I could find all the messages. I attended in 2010 and have from 2010 to 2012 on cd but would like to find older messages if possible. Feel free to PM.

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Kleenex,

I hope someone has the answer because I would also be interested in listening to some of those sermons. The one sermon I did experience was the young pastor from Colorado a few years back. He preached just over 1 1/2 hours. The first 45 minutes were great and could have been preached at Christ Church Nashville or pretty much any progressive exUPC church. It was the last 45 minutes where he made what he clearly considered the practical applications of the first half where things went wacky.

For example, while he said he wasn't telling the other pastors there they had to do it, he himself did not allow anyone in his church under the age of 18 to have a cell phone. (to which my first thought was: CULT ALERT!!!!! - What in the world is a pastor getting into parents business by making decisions like that???). He then also shared that he did not allow anyone in his church to be on the internet. If someone had to be on the internet for work they had to put a filter on that would only allow them to access the website / pages necessary for work.

In other words all of the things that make me understand why some people consider ultra cons "cultish". Not all of the traits of a cult but the spirit of control is there in many instances.

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I think Apostolic Classics might have them?

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You can find audio from 2003 at good preaching dot com.

Look under "miscellaneous."

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Ahh, Groce's page has been taken down.

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I know they have some of them on there. I listened to Elder White's closing message the other evening.

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Hey See See Rider your just bitter :heeheehee

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I will look there. I remember seeing some there. Pretty sure that page has a virus though so I will have to wait till I am not at work.

Thanks

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I would like to find a collection of all the messages if possible...or at least most..

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Wayne Bent was a Seventh Day Adventist, Vernon Wayne Howell (David Koresh) was a Seventh Day Adventist, AJ Miller (Australian Jesus) was Jehovah Witness overseer, and Jim Jones was a Methodist. Now these guys leave the cell phone and internet prohibitionists in the dust. I guess the Seventh Day Adventist Friends Forum must be a real cage match. :)

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LOL!! Usually after a post like that some conservative will post something about how they are sorry I had a bad experience, am bitter, etc which is kind of funny because I never had any kind of conflict while UPC and did not leave over any conflict. I just did agree with the extra biblial legalism and a few other things.

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Oh, it is because you're just jealous. :heeheehee

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I hate when I hear a pastor say, "I took a cell phone from someone"....(not talking about children) I heard a pastor say that not too long ago and I thought, "that will never take sin from the person's heart"...and the end story was the person made the pastor look like a fool...sad so sad...
I am thankful that all my life I have had a shepherd not someone lording over me and using scare tactic's....I am so blessed.

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In my experience those that harp and harp on certain issues usually have problems along those lines....when looking for a pastor ...look for balance...

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The goal of this thread was to find messages from AMC (which has been accomplished).

Thanks for everyone's input.

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Maybe that's why so many on the left side of Pentecost harp on greasy grace and love and harp and harp against a good man trying to do his best to prepare a bride? Because they struggle with grace love and compromise.

I wonder ...

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Glad I was able to help :happydance

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:heeheehee

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:thumbsup

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You are 100% correct.

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Thank you,

That is the exact reason a good man will make a stand against a young person under a responsible age having a cell phone. Or people having unblocked Internet, or for work or school purposes only. It's not because he is a control freak, it's because people are struggling with these things. There are too many stories of 'while men slept, the enemy came' .

When a ship is taking on water the captain has to Stand flat footed and say Enough! Start bailing water! What's wrong with that?

While in Hawaii my wife and I saw a nice yacht 1/2 submerged at the doc. Beautiful boat beautiful ocean and scenery. But the boat was ruined, and people walked by wagging their heads saying 'it was a awesome yacht ".

Think about all the churches that have gone charismatic or that are no more.... And all we can say is "was an awesome church". As we wag our head.

God help us all.
Very emotional forgive me.
I am for the pastor!

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Not allowing anyone in a church under the age of 18 to own a cell phone is the very definition of controlling whether you want to acknowledge that or not. Not only controlling but making decisions that should be made by parents.

You may have the best of intentions but pervert the gospel never the less by lording over people rather than being a shepherd.

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I have to agree with you here.

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Ye both do error not knowing the scripture. There is no option but to blow the trumpet.

Ezekiel 3:20-21

.......When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die:

because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.

21Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

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Good grief

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How does this apply to a minister making across the board rule over someone else's family members?

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It is just like in the case of a plague in the house.

Leprosy has always been a type of sin. When one person is infected with leprosy in order to save the house, the man of God must rid the house of that dreaded plague. If it is not dealt with the house will be destroyed and everyone in it.

Leviticus 14:44-46
Then the priest shall come and look, and, behold, if the plague be spread in the house, it is a fretting leprosy in the house: it is unclean.

And he shall break down the house, the stones of it, and the timber thereof, and all the morter of the house;

and he shall carry them forth out of the city into an unclean place.

Moreover he that goeth into the house all the while that it is shut up shall be unclean until the even."


When my wife came to this country everyone in the refugee camp that came here had to be vaccinated.

All throughout school my kids had to be vaccinated.

Is that fair?

Somethings need to be done to protect everyone.

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Are you a pastor?

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No, just helping an elder get a new daughter work started. Teaching bible studies 3 days a week, street evangelism and outreach every Tuesday and Saturdays between services. Just scratching the surface of a population of over 400,000. In the surrounding area. Besided working a full time job.
Not doing enough.

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Awesome, bro. Perez!!!:thumbsup

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Why do you ask?

I personally believe that there can only be one Pastor over every local congregation.

I find it interesting and not sure where it came from, how nowadays there is a pastor for everything.

I saw a website that had a Lighting Pastor, Ministries Pastor, Evangelism Pastor etc...

Everyone else except the Pastor is just help.

Because we are all ministering under his eldership.

Whether the Pastor gives us authority to baptize, marry, lay hands, teach, preach, or counsel.

There is only one man accountable to God for that local congregation.

It's not a matter of lording, it is a matter of responsibility.

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So was that a yes? Or a no?

lol

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Ok, nevermind my previous post, just saw this one.

Would you be willing to share what you do in regards to teaching bible studies, doing street evangelism, and doing outreach? Like what exactly do you do, how you do it, and what some of your results have been?

pm me if you prefer.

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In biblical times they had elders. Plural. :coffee2

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Still do. :)

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So, an Apostolic man filled with the Holy Ghost wants his young people in his home to have a cell phone it is akin to leprosy? A man and his family, is under the control of the head of that family. Wives submit to YOUR own husband Ephesians 5:22-33, Colossians 3:18. Children are to obey the parents Ephesians 6:1, Colossians 3:20. 1 Timothy 3:4 fathers as the head must manage their own family in a proper manner. their children should respectfully obey the father as the head of the home. If a father decides to have his children to have cell phones, then that man is running his home.


So how long do you keep your saints in quarantine? Meaning you gave us the scriptures and the stories concerning vaccines, but can you show how you would deal with adult men who don't agree with a cell phone prohibition for their young people? Also this preacher who preachers cell phone prohibition does he also preach against public school? Just asking that question out of interest. Thank you Brother Perez

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While I myself would not insist on the prohibition of cell phones for teenagers we must all confess with the changing of technology and the availability of so much filth parents surely need to guard their children during these developing years. And it is my job to warn the parents and young people of the filth and keep themselves pure. Pornography addiction is very real and during those young hormonal days where sexual temptation is great with those raging hormones it pays both the pastor and parents to guard against it. Surely everyone here can see the dangers if not you are probably messing with it yourself.

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My issue is making an across the board prohibition against cell phones. I totally agree with you emphatically on the rest of your post.

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Warning is one thing and very biblical...My post was conceding a pastor taking (?) a phone from a grown married man...to keep him out of sin....I thought that part was quite foolish....

I sometimes hear of the "horrors" that some folks tell about in certain churches...I am very thankful for a pastor that is balanced....He has been my pastor since I was 7 years old....I think he may have been 20! I am 65 and still have the same pastor and his sweet wife....such Godly people and huge footprints for me to follow....

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I know there are many good stable churches in the states....Am so thankful for the good that far outweighs the bad...