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The church in Maui started out in dad Malory's garage. Then after several years it was converted into a full-size church pretty nice. The house church exploded with growth and has expanded so much. Why wouldn't want to make an excuse when there are so many people to reach on the island. Let's build the biggest the best the greatest sanctuary that money can buy so that more people can be safe .

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To stay at house church is for one or two excuses. One you don't have a ministry that is anointed to attract people enough to build a church. Number two if you don't believe in giving to the church Or paying tithing then you can't afford to build a church. That is the reason you would stay in the house church. This is ridiculous, quit making excuses

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well, but it is the house church that exploded? i think maybe the Holy Spirit is in that, and then we as humans take over with the Big Plans?

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Oh, Esaias...

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Our house church is busting at the seams, and no doubt soon we will have to figure something else out. A good problem :)

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Weight watchers?















:scorebad

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a rope of three cords is not easily broken.

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Friend, this is rather myoptic, and even hurtful, both to those who are a part of a house church, and to the testimony of the Holy Scriptures.

The 1st century church was a house church, with occasional open air temple meetings, until they were kicked out. Are we then to say men like James, John, Peter, Paul, Barnabas, Silas, Timothy, Agabus, Apollos, Aquila and Priscilla, Phillip, and Steven (to name but a few) weren't anointed enough to

1.) attract people...to build a church

or

2.) [didn't] believe in giving...

The house church in the 1st century had thousands of members, at least 12 fully functioning Apostles/Bishops, prophets and deacons. They had all things in common, and people went and sold all they had, including property and lands, and placed the money received at the apostle's feet. Gentiles received the Holy Spirit in a house meeting. Simon Peter was miraculously released from prison by an angel after an all night house prayer meeting. And I could go on.

In light of these facts, it is perhaps important that you not only rethink your original position, but retract it.

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lol... well some of us probably could use a weight watchers program, but no, I don't believe weight watchers would solve the dilemma of fitting more people into a small home. We are praying about it, and are not above looking for a tent to use, if necessary. Our weather here is somewhat prohibitive to that, unless the tent was a military style tent equipped with a wood stove. And, we have also mentioned splitting up into smaller groups during the week, and having a meeting at different believer's homes throughout the week, allowing those who wish for more fellowship to be able to do so throughout the week. Just a couple of options on the table that we are praying about.

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Very true.

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Very good Votive! Indeed, house church seems to most closely model the NT church.

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Brawwther,
You sound like a cowboy? With the gentle attitude. You probably wear wranglers huh? I am so glad for your home church! I will pray that you guys find the right place to buy and grow. There's nothing wrong with a home church that is growing as long as they are apostolic in teaching and Pentecostal in practice.

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There is one guy like you on the island they calling big John he's really nice guy

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hear that, K? Yur a Big John :D
...please see terms and conditions :lol

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ohh, that one! :lol

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Hey Poi Boy!

How are you all going to support that edifice "biggest and best" MONEY can buy?

Care to put the Pineapple bong down and explain? :dogpat

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:lol money changes everything huh

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This last picture touches my heart. You know that they are preparing for the third temple as we speak.https://www.templeinstitute.org/events.htm but what touches me even more is the pictures that you show of all of those other churches. It is sad to see them because they don't have to pull for offerings like a lot of men do among us, we don't have to have food drives and so things in garage sales and peanut brittle and fundraisers. We are here with the only saving teaching, but the people in our churches are so stingy that they hold back from God. God doesn't need our money I agree, but God will not do what we can do for ourselves.

Those churches are going Big kahuna packed from wall-to-wall building whatever they want stretching as far and wide is they desire. While the real church struggles, while the real church has to fight spirits of the local city for permits to expand. And some people sit satisfied with the group of 10 or 20 in their home when the world is going to hell .

A good friend of mine said something that I will never forget, he said "the devil will give you excuses if you let him."

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Excuse me but does your pastor hold this opinion as well? You might not want to head over to the mainland and start spouting that sort of stuff in a meeting. You might have someone light your grass skirt on fire. :heeheehee



Wow, I noticed that the poster Sean was honey hugging on you in the Mowi Wowi thread against fulfilled eschatology. I also notice Sean always ends up grabbing onto allies who are FAITHFUL TITHERS! Sean! The Lord is trying to tell you to go back to your old pastor and give him all those back tithes you owe him! So, an individual "pastor" cannot get out of his Home Missions work or house church because he doesn't get enough tithe money out of his people? Kahuna, I see you been missing your Dale Carnegie classes. :)


Does your pastor believe like you?

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I guess it does on the Big Island. :pirate

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You believe that they are actually going to return to the law system and animal sacrifices? Ezra and Nehemiah would be laughing! The Apostle Paul would just shake his head :heeheehee



Peanut brittle?

That's sounds real Hawaiian.

Please explain "to pull for offerings?"




WHAT?!?

Does your pastor know you are on this forum bad mouthing his people?


Maybe they're struggling because you hold such a low opinion of them and then come to the forum post their FB page and call them stingy. :smack

You have a good friend? I hope he isn't one of the people you call stingy. :heeheehee

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Can someone tone down the big pictures? ...lol!

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Waaaallll, I's ban called a lotta things... but dat Big John, now that does bout beat all... :heeheehee

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You are not kidding, but I understand why the need for them to be posted so large. Because the surfboard jockey believes that only mega huge churches are relevant. :heeheehee

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If I were to wear a pair of Wranglers, I'm sure you would not consider me apostolic.... :heeheehee

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Amen! :highfive

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You and Esaias set him straight now, ya'hear!

:heeheehee

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And there is that scripture where Jesus said... where two or three are gathered together in MY NAME, I will be in the midst of them... so the size of the building where people are gathering is irrelevant... what they are doing while they are gathering is what is important!

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By the way how many churches in the Apostolic Oneness movement are up to 20,000?


I believe it was posted that sort of thinking is just an excuse.

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Pentecostals are all the same everywhere I've been. We have an airport here, and planes. I have seen a lot in wherever I go Hawaii goes with me. please don't tell me you guys don't believe in churches either ? Im not everything I should be, but I still know what's right. I may not be on the road but I know where it is. Evangelist, keep talking sense to me, because I know I need it. I don't mean to be disrespectful to anyone.

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So... you are downing house churches, when the very church you are attending started with one? Hmm...

Why not have multiple satellite house churches all over the island? Each home of a believer becomes a place where more believers can be reached with a bible study, and love and fellowship...

For the record, I have no problem with a large church building, but it should not be the "only" building in the group where people are meeting to fellowship, and share the gospel. Every believer's home really should be open to sharing the gospel as much as possible. Now that is a way to truly explode and bust out the seams and reach people with the gospel!