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Wonder 10-23-2015 09:22 PM

Wondering how to approach the LGBT problem
 
Hi all ya'll , I havent been on here for quite some time. However, I have an issue that needs to be dealt with but not sure how to go about it. I figured I would see if anyone has dealt with this or has an idea how to deal with it.

I have a first semester female college student that has experienced a gay man also first semester college student using the womens bathrooms in her dorm and on campus. I am not sure of the laws and have been googling trying to figure it out. This is a small campus university and I told her that she needs to tell someone about it because it is encroaching on her rights as a female.

Does anyone know anything about how to go about this. She said she is very uncomfortable and furious with the situation. I told her that they should either give her a private bath area or him.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Esaias 10-23-2015 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonder (Post 1398938)
Hi all ya'll , I havent been on here for quite some time. However, I have an issue that needs to be dealt with but not sure how to go about it. I figured I would see if anyone has dealt with this or has an idea how to deal with it.

I have a first semester female college student that has experienced a gay man also first semester college student using the womens bathrooms in her dorm and on campus. I am not sure of the laws and have been googling trying to figure it out. This is a small campus university and I told her that she needs to tell someone about it because it is encroaching on her rights as a female.

Does anyone know anything about how to go about this. She said she is very uncomfortable and furious with the situation. I told her that they should either give her a private bath area or him.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

She needs to carry pepper spray, and if he comes in the bath area she needs to spray the entire contents into his face, scream bloody murder, and then file criminal charges against him for voyeurism, stalking, and public lewdness. Then she needs to find an attorney and sue the school for not preventing such things from happening.

Then she needs to contact blogs, social media, conservative and Christian media, etc and let the entire world know what happened.

It needs to go to court and get full publicity so that one of two things can happen:

Either America repents and puts a stop to this garbage, or America flips God off (yet again) and the nation can suffer the consequences of the next phase of divine judgment.

shazeep 10-24-2015 08:46 AM

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yikes. has anyone just explained to him that he is making people uncomfortable, and that there will be consequences?

jfrog 10-24-2015 10:00 AM

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Maybe it's a girl that thinks she is a guy

houston 10-24-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1399038)
Maybe it's a girl that thinks she is a guy

Sometimes you just can't tell

TJJJ 10-24-2015 04:00 PM

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Definitely concealed carry permit time! Go drastic!

Kill em all, let God sort them out!










J/k

good samaritan 10-24-2015 07:33 PM

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WWJD.

Wonder 10-24-2015 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1398942)
She needs to carry pepper spray, and if he comes in the bath area she needs to spray the entire contents into his face, scream bloody murder, and then file criminal charges against him for voyeurism, stalking, and public lewdness. Then she needs to find an attorney and sue the school for not preventing such things from happening.

Then she needs to contact blogs, social media, conservative and Christian media, etc and let the entire world know what happened.

It needs to go to court and get full publicity so that one of two things can happen:

Either America repents and puts a stop to this garbage, or America flips God off (yet again) and the nation can suffer the consequences of the next phase of divine judgment.

Thanks for the idea . . lol I was talking more with the female student and she is gonna talk to her instructional supervisor about it before anything else. Hopefully the school will correct the situation.

Wonder 10-24-2015 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1399038)
Maybe it's a girl that thinks she is a guy

Nope it is definitely a male trying to be a girl. He also brags that no one has said anything about it. I hope the school does the right thing.

Esaias 10-24-2015 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by good samaritan (Post 1399113)
WWJD.

Well considering he made a scourge and drove out some money-changers...

TJJJ 10-24-2015 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1399136)
Well considering he made a scourge and drove out some money-changers...

Heh heh heh

jfrog 10-25-2015 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonder (Post 1399133)
Nope it is definitely a male trying to be a girl. He also brags that no one has said anything about it. I hope the school does the right thing.

May I ask how you are so certain it is a guy?

Having her/him mention she's surprised no one said anything about him/her going in the girls bathroom doesn't mean it's a guy.

Now if he said I'm surprised no one had said anything about a guy going into the girls bathroom. Well that would be proof. But the other isn't.

shazeep 10-25-2015 06:51 AM

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hmm...

Wonder 10-25-2015 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1399200)
May I ask how you are so certain it is a guy?

Having her/him mention she's surprised no one said anything about him/her going in the girls bathroom doesn't mean it's a guy.

Now if he said I'm surprised no one had said anything about a guy going into the girls bathroom. Well that would be proof. But the other isn't.


:thumbsup He is registered as a boy and he lives in the boy dorms and of course the obvious.

jfrog 10-25-2015 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonder (Post 1399261)
:thumbsup He is registered as a boy and he lives in the boy dorms and of course the obvious.

Now we have something! Just saying I work with a girl who tries to be a boy and honestly I would have that it was a boy trying to be a girl if his friend didn't tell me

jfrog 10-25-2015 12:16 PM

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College will take that seriously. She just has to tell the right people imo.

shazeep 10-25-2015 12:46 PM

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yup

francis 10-25-2015 06:35 PM

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Sadly, each day that passes evermore proves that "The WHOLE world, not just a portion, IS under the control of the evil one"!

So it is that "aliens and pilgrims on the earth" should be evermore increasing, yet who is willing to forsake all? Yes! and their own life as well.......

The lgbt way is the "one world" way, yet rather than "Coming Out of Her", the multitudes continue to conform themselves to that which makes them "comfortable"!

"Ease of life" is most certainly a killer of the soul.......

mfblume 10-25-2015 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1399266)
College will take that seriously. She just has to tell the right people imo.

Yes.

mfblume 10-25-2015 07:29 PM

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It was not so much until this recent change in society that I feel like I want to get out of this world.

good samaritan 10-25-2015 09:54 PM

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Of course, I feel she should report this. I posted WWJD earlier because I think that we should spend most of our efforts trying to promote the kingdom, rather than political fighting. I can't role the tide of LGBT with a picket sign in my hand, but I can try to pray and convert sinners that Satan has power over. Instead of fighting against them outwardly, would it better to fight them inwardly. By all means, let the Holy Ghost lead all of us. I would love to see homosexuals convert to God and to be filled with the Holy Ghost. If that is how we protested we may be more effective.

Esaias 10-26-2015 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by good samaritan (Post 1399336)
Of course, I feel she should report this. I posted WWJD earlier because I think that we should spend most of our efforts trying to promote the kingdom, rather than political fighting. I can't role the tide of LGBT with a picket sign in my hand, but I can try to pray and convert sinners that Satan has power over. Instead of fighting against them outwardly, would it better to fight them inwardly. By all means, let the Holy Ghost lead all of us. I would love to see homosexuals convert to God and to be filled with the Holy Ghost. If that is how we protested we may be more effective.

The Kingdom of God (and His righteousness) is a very 'political' thing. Consider:

1. Every law, is by definition, a 'legislating of morality', ie a declaration of what ought or ought not to be done.
2. Therefore, SOMEBODY'S morals will be legislated, either God's, or rebellious sinful man's.
3. Therefore, all 'law' or 'politics' is moral in nature.
4. Since 'morals' come from either God, or are held in opposition to God, all morals are religious.
5. Hence, all 'law' or 'politics' is religious in nature.

So then, the question is: Whose politics are going to be upheld, God's? Or Satan's? As Christians, we have all made a firm commitment to seek after, to expect, to support, to promote the Kingdom of God, and his righteousness. Therefore, we must do everything in our power to promote His government (kingdom) and his laws (his righteousness, his justice, his equity, his holiness). We must always promote the revealed Will of God.

Now, I am not suggesting your suggested course of action is wrong. I am merely suggesting we need to quit making this false, unbiblical distinction between politics and the kingdom of God. It will change our paradigm, our point of view.

In the specific case under discussion, the young man needs to either repent or at least get back in the closet. Romans 13 would apply here, too, I might add, meaning the civil power should be doing it's job of punishing evil. And here in the US, 'we the people' are responsible for admonishing the civil power to do it's duty by being 'belligerant claimants in court' (as the courts themselves have declared).

shazeep 10-26-2015 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1399367)
The Kingdom of God (and His righteousness) is a very 'political' thing.

yikes, i don't think so, E...or you mean something else at 'political,' perhaps.

24Then comes the end,ah when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father,ai when He abolishes all rule and all authority and power.aj 25For He must reignak until He puts all His enemies under His feet.

Ferd 10-26-2015 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Wonder (Post 1399132)
Thanks for the idea . . lol I was talking more with the female student and she is gonna talk to her instructional supervisor about it before anything else. Hopefully the school will correct the situation.

it is entirely possible in this world run by utter and complete idiots that the college has instituted a policy that a person who "identifies" as female can use the female restroom.

your female friend, may find she is up against the school on the issue.

we have lost our minds and evidently you now get to pick what gender you fell like you are when you wake up.

I think UCLA or some such school has identified something like 19 different "gender identifications"?

shazeep 10-26-2015 07:25 AM

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one has to ask themselves what business a believer has at a school like that

Ferd 10-26-2015 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1399381)
one has to ask themselves what business a believer has at a school like that

I have school age kids that need to go to college one day.

im wondering what im going to do.

shazeep 10-26-2015 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1399383)
I have school age kids that need to go to college one day.

im wondering what im going to do.

ya--college, like most of our other institutions, seems to be in meltdown right now. But that doesn't mean that there are no exceptions to that rule, even right now--although I'm not sure who those exceptions are.

Ferd 10-26-2015 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1399385)
ya--college, like most of our other institutions, seems to be in meltdown right now. But that doesn't mean that there are no exceptions to that rule, even right now--although I'm not sure who those exceptions are.

the good news is, ive got some time before this is a focus.

and I plan on getting my (now almost 11 year old) at job digging ditches right out of highschool for a year in what? 8 years?

I figure a year of working a hand shovel will prepare him for college far better than anything he is doing in school!

shazeep 10-26-2015 09:47 AM

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HA! i like it. Community college will likely be free (again) at that point, anyway...already is, in a couple states.

jfrog 10-26-2015 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1399378)
it is entirely possible in this world run by utter and complete idiots that the college has instituted a policy that a person who "identifies" as female can use the female restroom.

your female friend, may find she is up against the school on the issue.

we have lost our minds and evidently you now get to pick what gender you fell like you are when you wake up.

I think UCLA or some such school has identified something like 19 different "gender identifications"?

Possible. I don't think we are there yet.

Ferd 10-26-2015 10:51 AM

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I think the right (self protection) approach is to make an inquiry to the school admin what the actual written policy is for gender identification and restroom use is.

make no indication of your bias. simply request the policy for personal understanding.

Then once that is in hand, decide how to proceed.
if the policy is based on actual gender, then report the violation.

if the policy is based on what a person "feels" their gender is, then you have to decide if you want to fight that battle. It may very well be worth the effort to fight the school policy but one has to be prepared to deal with the fallout. which might very well include expulsion.

Wonder 10-26-2015 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1399381)
one has to ask themselves what business a believer has at a school like that

Of course to get an education for a suitable job that does not require her to live paycheck to paycheck. I realize it is in her best interest to marry and become a housewife and that is what she would like . However , life is life and there are many women that have regretted not getting a solid education for a backup plan. Life is not like in the old days when jobs were everywhere. :thumbsup

Wonder 10-26-2015 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1399423)
I think the right (self protection) approach is to make an inquiry to the school admin what the actual written policy is for gender identification and restroom use is.

make no indication of your bias. simply request the policy for personal understanding.

Then once that is in hand, decide how to proceed.
if the policy is based on actual gender, then report the violation.

if the policy is based on what a person "feels" their gender is, then you have to decide if you want to fight that battle. It may very well be worth the effort to fight the school policy but one has to be prepared to deal with the fallout. which might very well include expulsion.


This is very good advice. Thank You! :yourock

Esaias 10-26-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Wonder (Post 1399434)
Of course to get an education for a suitable job that does not require her to live paycheck to paycheck. I realize it is in her best interest to marry and become a housewife and that is what she would like . However , life is life and there are many women that have regretted not getting a solid education for a backup plan. Life is not like in the old days when jobs were everywhere. :thumbsup

College degrees no longer guarantee a suitable, well paying job, unfortunately.

Buy real estate. Retire in 5 years. Do your thang.

:happydance

KeptByTheWord 10-26-2015 03:39 PM

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How terrible to experience this!

Ferd's advice sounds pretty reasonable.


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