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Is there a Chance that AFF is going the way of GNC? I've noticed recently that the forum is nearly inactive at times, after all, what is there left to discuss? :beatdeadhorse

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I have n idea what GNC is. I think the discussion about hypostatic union is very interesting. When I get stumped on the biography I am writing about Harry Isaac Morse, AFF members help me out.

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All forums seem to have to die and be reborn.
This one has gone through several rebirths.

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i have like 15 AFF threads in my feed, all active.
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I'll be honest. I don't care much for this forum. To see it die would not hurt my feelings in the least. I think it is very dangerous, especially to new converts. I would, however, like to see several threads archived because there is a lot of history that has been hashed out and I don't want to see it lost. If it is rebirthed, I hope certain guidelines would become clearly established and enforced more, such as respect for Apostolic Doctrine.

Just my .02

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That's nothing compared to times past.

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hmm.
ah, well, i'm not sure what you mean by "Apostolic Doctrine," but i think every generation will inevitably reinterpret that anyway...with some lack of reverence. Wadr don't your hopes more or less describe the OP church? What better venue for exploration than an internet forum? What you describe sounds a lot like GNC to me; and don't get me wrong, they were universally respectful people.

But contention works for the faith, by holding up a mirror to your premises. I love OPs; the vast majority are seeking God, and practice the Golden Rule. As a religion, however, it benefits from tearing down of some walls, as all religions do.

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He means don't question his beliefs.

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I would not want the forum to close.

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yes, i know; but i have seen the dead walk! :lol

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I like AFF.

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Why don't you just make a prohibition against new converts going on the Internet? Also restrict new converts from looking at any unauthorized material. While you are at it make sure new converts never speak to anyone from other denominations or religions.

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Is it telling that the majority of those who do like AFF are no longer Apostolic and those that do not like it are still Apostolic? Hmmmm....

AFF is not a friend to the Apostolic movement for the most part.

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Because I'm not Mormon.

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Right...

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Yes, I agree that this forum is dangerous to new converts, because they are not yet grounded in the truth.

however this is a great place for those who are mature in the faith, for it challenges them to create good arguments for their beliefs.

As an Apostolic myself I do want my Apostolic doctrine respected, but I do not mind when someone honestly challenges my Apostolic doctrines.

We have to be able to give an answer for the faith that is in us.
We have to be able to earnestly contend for the faith once delivered unto the saints.

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Actually AFF is a true friend to the Apostolic movement, because it allows free discussion of Apostolic Doctrines.
There are many forums where any discussions of Apostolic doctrines are quickly shut down and even deleted.

Here I have no problem discussing my Apostolic beliefs without having to worry about being kicked out and banned for doing it.

Yes there will be people who attack my beliefs, but I get a chance to refute them and answer them, while in other places defending Apostolic beliefs is anathema.

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GNC and all the "Apostolic" forums have died, for one single reason.

No discussion or debates of doctrine is permitted, that is what kills forums.

When Stan Hallet run GNC he permitted people to discuss Apostolic doctrines pro and con, once he left the management to others they quickly clamped down on debates and that was the end of GNC.

I remember the new managers at GNC being very zealous of protecting their version of Apostolic doctrine. pretty soon everyone started leaving and at the end it was a ghost town.

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goodnewscafe was an Apostolic forum, but they were stricter and many believe that led to it's ultimate demise

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BTW a group of "rebels" left here to start their own, more liberal version. It did not survive either

Another reason for forum's dying down is facebook. Everyone is on facebook

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Forums die when they lose their diversity. When rules are enforced to weed out those who differ and everyone pretty much agrees, the forum dies. Point and counterpoint is what makes a forum interesting.

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It sounded like you were.

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Facebook knocked Vbulletin out.

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Agreed.
However, admin not enforcing basic rules of civility led to some from both camps leaving here.
By the way, this is not aimed at current admin, in any way.

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Very honestly DA nearly single handed destroyed this forum. We pleaded with admins at that time to curb him. So the majority of Apostolics left. The void then was filled with folks who are either ex Apostolcs or not Apostolics. We had healthy respectful discussions on FCF and even the early days of AFF. But it changed. Ever so often I might comment but it is not interesting to me. I made friends on FCF that are forum friends today. This forum is not very Apostolic friendly just saying.

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Would that be Daniel Alicia by chance? A real piece of work was he. :girlytantrum

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Yes now he is agnostic which is sad.

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I always thought he was agnostic.

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I went to that church! :heeheehee

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amen

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:thumbsup

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When I first arrived on this forum, I was taken back by the arguments against the necessity of water baptism.

I thought these "Apostolics" were bad news.

But now I enjoy hearing their point of view and rebutting things they say.

This forum would not be the same without them.(a mutual admiration forum)

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I even enjoy the deranged finger painter!:dogkiss

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See, this doesn't even make sense to me. Facebook is not a forum, there are no "discussion threads". It's not even a collection of blogs. I do not understand why a person, who wanted to discuss things on a discussion forum, would be enraptured by faceplant, oops I mean facebook.?????

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I know forms that are run by baptists, and ONLY baptist doctrine is allowed, and they are pretty active. I know of one Reformed forum that is chock full of interesting theological discussion and heated debate, yet no NON REFORMED points of view are allowed (plus all members must use their real names and must identify what Reformed congregation they are members of!) but they are doing fine.

Other huge forums where anything goes also exist. But apostolics just aren't a blip on the radar on forums. I think apostolics for the most part just don't do forums, period.

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All very true, imo.

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Agnostic? Wow. I have been out of the loop for sure! Which makes me kind of happy actually...

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Sometimes it depends on what a person defines what an Apostolic is.

I consider many of the people in here Apostolics or at least not totally negative toward Apostolics.
However to some Apostolics unless a person belongs to a certain group or accepts a long list of "Apostolic" doctrines, then in their mind that person is not a true Apostolic.

Defining who a true apostolic is sometimes based on the old idea, that to be a true Apostolic you must believe exactly what my pastor, leader or church teaches otherwise you are not a true Apostolic.

However my conception of who a true Apostolic, is a biblical one.
what do I mean by that?
Well I mean that for a person to call themselves a true Apostolic, that person must believe what the Apostles taught in the scriptures.
If the Apostles did not teach it, then it is not an Apostolic doctrine and therefor it should not be a part of what defines an Apostolic.

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Well this world is not very Apostolic friendly either, however we must live in this world.

I would visit and become a member of another Apostolic forum if one that allowed doctrinal discussions existed, however there is an scarcity of such forums.

When GNC existed and also a couple of other Apostolic forums existed, I did join them.

When discussion or debate of Aposttolic doctrines was prohibited then there was nothing for me to do in there, but just watch people exchange food recipes, so I simply left them. Now those places are gone.

This forum might not seem to be Apostolic friendly, but it is because it allows the discussion of Apostolic doctrines and any discussion or debate of Apostolic doctrine seem to some people as attacks upon Apostolic doctrines, but we should never confuse healthy discussion or debate for attacks.

There are way too many forums dominated by trinies where any Apostolic doctrine is quickly shut down, I know I have been kicked out of some of them for bringing up Apostolic doctrines, now those forums are truly not Apostolic Friendly.