Russia blows up Turkish convoy
 

Just heard that a convoy of Turkish military vehicles, operating "illegally" inside Syria, was destroyed by Russian forces not too long ago. Turkey claims this was a "humanitarian relief convoy" and declared Russia's action as "an act of war".

Turkey is claiming 7 dead, ten plus wounded.

Please fasten your seatbelts and place your trays in the upright position...

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Turkey violated international law by shooting the Russian jet down. Even if the jet was in Turkey's airspace, the only lawful way to shoot it down would be in self defense if Russia was attacking Turkey.

And yet, our dumb president rushes to condemn Russia instead of Turkey.

Good for Russia. There should be consequences for Turkey shooting down a jet. I'd rather it be an actual military target, like a military base, and I'm hoping the report isn't true that this was a humanitarian convoy, but maybe next time those Sunnis muslims will think twice before jumping the gun and shooting a Russian plane down.

"Turkey has informed the United Nations that two Russian planes disregarded warnings and violated Turkish airspace "to a depth of 1.36 miles and 1.15 miles in length for 17 seconds."

Stupid Turks. If the US did this every time a Russian plane came into US airspace near Alaska or the west coast, it'd be all out war.

And obama defended this absurdity.

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If anyone thinks that Turkish convoy was a 'humanitarian relief effort' I got some bridges in Arizona overlooking the ocean to sell them.

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In all fairness to Turkey Russia had been violating Turkish airspace for several weeks at a increasing pace and the Turkish government gave Russia repeated warnings to stop doing it.

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Really? So Russia can fly a Nuclear bomber across the US and we can do nothing until it drops a bomb?

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Are you sure? I always thought I heard they came near but were still in International waters

That's an extreme example, and no, Russia could not.

The use of force is justified in defending national borders, but usually a clear and imminent threat is required to resort to such drastic measures.

Two jets passing through the tip of Turkey for 17 seconds, making no threat to Turkey is not enough to shoot them down.

Turkey should be reprimanded, not defended.

Consider this, "In 2005, Turkey entered Greek airspace 1,017 times, or as often as 40 times a day," according to a WikiLeaks document.

Perhaps Greece should start blowing Turkish jets out of the sky when Turkey violates Greece's airspace.

And yet, with all those violations, not one time did Russia threaten Turkey. Turkey's President even wrote that Turkey considered Russia as a "friendly" neighbor.

With friends like Turkey....

BTW...

"In 2005, Turkey entered Greek airspace 1,017 times, or as often as 40 times a day," according to a WikiLeaks document.

Turkey is lucky Greece is a doormat and doesn't care about it's sovereignty, else Turkish jet wreckages would be littering the coast.

In 2014, Russian "Bear" bombers violated US airspace 16 times in a 10 day period. We scrambled jets to track them, but they posed no threat, so we didn't shoot them down.

Turkey did this on purpose. Russia has been pounding isis. Turkey is majority Sunni muslim...the same of which comprise isis. This was planned and not done for any measure of self defense.

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It's the end of the end of the end. .......

Again.

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Amazing.

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Didn't they say that about the Civil War?

They said it about World War I?

War to END all wars.

Do you not believe it was stupid to shoot down a Russian jet which was in Turkish airspace only 17 seconds? It led to the death of a Russian airman and Turkey is actually claiming it was in self defense.

Yeah, stupid Turks. They clearly aren't thinking this through.

The last thing they need is to anger Putin and have him start a war with them.

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Turkey is playing its part in the game. The pieces are almost in place for the planned Big One that will be used as the excuse for global socialist government.

The first War was supposed to bring in the League of Nations. That failed so they gave us WW2 and the UN. The UN has to be propped up as viable, or replaced with something "more effective", thus they need another War "to end all wars" to get folks to sign on with globalism.

Besides, QEwhatever is about run out, so as usual a war is needed. Plus, domestics are getting restless, so again a war is needed. Predictable.

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You need to cool it.

Stupid Turkish government fine, but ease up on the people. You have no clue who you are referring.

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Do you have a job???

Do you have time to do anything else?

My lands, if everyone was a Freemason as the goonies always like to point out. We would have more Freemasons than humans on this planet.

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:lol you are comic relief, EB. Occasionally.
http://i.imgur.com/2yEqfHq.jpg

Okay, since I need to spell it out to clarify I'm not talking about the old Turk grandmother in her black evening burqa...Stupid Turkish President, PM and other govt leaders involved.

:lol

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Arent Greece and Turkey NATO allies?

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No, just be cool about my Turkish Apostolic brothers and sisters in Izmir and Istanbul. I don't know about grandmothers in black, unless their Sicilian or Greek.

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Yes.

So allies don't have sovereign airspace?

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Allies might feel less threatened

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Exactly. :nod