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Praxeas 12-04-2015 12:24 PM

CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/04.../?intcmp=hpbt1

America bears some of the blame for the bloody wave of Islamic extremism that has brought terrorism to San Bernardino, Paris and locations around the world, according to a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

In a Friday CNN interview, Hussam Ayloush, of the group's Los Angeles chapter, said American foreign policy has helped fuel the rage that drives Muslim radicals to kill in the name of their faith.

Esaias 12-04-2015 12:35 PM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
Nah, we have always been at war with Eastasia.

shazeep 12-04-2015 02:48 PM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
:lol ya or killer bees.

Sean 12-04-2015 04:58 PM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1408800)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/04.../?intcmp=hpbt1

America bears some of the blame for the bloody wave of Islamic extremism that has brought terrorism to San Bernardino, Paris and locations around the world, according to a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

In a Friday CNN interview, Hussam Ayloush, of the group's Los Angeles chapter, said American foreign policy has helped fuel the rage that drives Muslim radicals to kill in the name of their faith.



Sounds like a flimsy excuse to keep doing it.

These guys NEVER tell their radicalized comrades they will go to hell for murdering innocent folks or committing suicide.

They condone these acts, by saying nothing about it.

shazeep 12-04-2015 08:26 PM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
please, you don't know what you're talking about. I could fill this page with your "never."

i will say that the US has turned a corner when even CAIR is condemning now.

n david 12-04-2015 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1408905)
please, you don't know what you're talking about. I could fill this page with your "never."

i will say that the US has turned a corner when even CAIR is condemning now.

Condemning who, the US or the terrorists? CAIR is a silent supporter of terror. It's just like them to offer excuses for terrorism and try to blame the US.

CAIR should be labeled a terror supporter and shut down.

Praxeas 12-04-2015 09:45 PM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1408907)
Condemning who, the US or the terrorists? CAIR is a silent supporter of terror. It's just like them to offer excuses for terrorism and try to blame the US.

CAIR should be labeled a terror supporter and shut down.

Right

FlamingZword 12-04-2015 10:34 PM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1408800)
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/04.../?intcmp=hpbt1

America bears some of the blame for the bloody wave of Islamic extremism that has brought terrorism to San Bernardino, Paris and locations around the world, according to a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

In a Friday CNN interview, Hussam Ayloush, of the group's Los Angeles chapter, said American foreign policy has helped fuel the rage that drives Muslim radicals to kill in the name of their faith.

ISIS has killed
Americans because of American foreign policy
Chinese because of American foreign policy
Canadians because of American foreign policy
Norwegians because of American foreign policy
Australians because of American foreign policy
.....because of American foreign policy

Great excuse without a doubt.

shazeep 12-05-2015 08:06 AM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1408907)
Condemning who, the US or the terrorists? CAIR is a silent supporter of terror. It's just like them to offer excuses for terrorism and try to blame the US.

CAIR should be labeled a terror supporter and shut down.

Funny thing about terrorists--none of them see themselves that way. "Terrorist" is a label made to put on people to divide them from the rest of humanity. You, who support the world's largest arms dealers, and bring guns to church, might bristle at being called a terrorist, would you not?

CAIR has been very vocal in condemning violence since its inception, and the rhetoric in this article is hardly inflammatory. Terrorism was invented by US policy, which is pretty clear to anyone who has been witness to US policy long enough. You might kid yourself that we are somehow defending the country from "terrorism"--since the Russians don't seem to want to be enemies anymore--or you can recognize that you are sowing seeds.

n david 12-05-2015 09:01 AM

Please post where CAIR has been "very vocal" in condemning terror attacks by muslims. They certainly didn't do that here. They blamed America and offered excuses for the terrorists, which is what I've read and heard of them over and over.

But perhaps I missed a time or two. Please post where they did.

shazeep 12-05-2015 09:42 AM

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no, thanks :)

FlamingZword 12-05-2015 05:58 PM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1408968)
no, thanks :)

How strange? you always seem so eager to post things that support your side of the story.

Evang.Benincasa 12-05-2015 06:22 PM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1408951)
Please post where CAIR has been "very vocal" in condemning terror attacks by muslims. They certainly didn't do that here. They blamed America and offered excuses for the terrorists, which is what I've read and heard of them over and over.

But perhaps I missed a time or two. Please post where they did.

http://www.cair.com/press-center/pre...r-attacks.html

http://www.cair.com/press-center/pre...-in-texas.html

shazeep 12-05-2015 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1409131)
How strange? you always seem so eager to post things that support your side of the story.

well, CAIR has a website and a reputation, already; but your mind is made up. What would be the point?

FlamingZword 12-06-2015 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1409264)
well, CAIR has a website and a reputation, already; but your mind is made up. What would be the point?

The point is that you are amusing with your far out fantastic conspiracy theories that always makes America the BAD GUY no matter how heinous or evil is the terrorist deed.

Pearl Harbor = America's fault
9-11 = America's fault
Paris Massacre = America's fault
Benghazi = America's fault
Hurricane in Mexico = America's fault
Tsunami in Indonesia = America's fault
Volcano explosion in Italy = America's fault

shazeep 12-06-2015 01:12 PM

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well that is your characterization, and you are welcome to it. I think there is an obvious disconnect now between America the people, and America the government; but i don't associate with either.
yup

Sean 12-06-2015 07:26 PM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
Hey, did you know that global warming causes terrorism?

http://jtf.org/bernie-sanders-global...ses-terrorism/




LOL

FlamingZword 12-06-2015 11:10 PM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1409374)
well that is your characterization, and you are welcome to it. I think there is an obvious disconnect now between America the people, and America the government; but i don't associate with either.
yup

Come on be honest about it.

Whenever there is two sides of a story you always believe and proclaim the story that makes America look bad.

Come on, you love to bite the hand that feeds you, admit it, you find it delicious.

Ferd 12-07-2015 07:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1408918)
ISIS has killed
Americans because of American foreign policy
Chinese because of American foreign policy
Canadians because of American foreign policy
Norwegians because of American foreign policy
Australians because of American foreign policy
.....because of American foreign policy

Great excuse without a doubt.

you forgot about Jordainins because of American Foreign policy
Iraqi muslims because of American foreign policy
Syrian muslms because of American foreign policy
Iraqi Christians because of American foreign policy


I guess if we want to get the American left to care we need to point out they are letting CO2 into the air.

shazeep 12-07-2015 09:35 AM

Re: CAIR says America deserved it...sorta
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1409513)
Come on be honest about it.

Whenever there is two sides of a story you always believe and proclaim the story that makes America look bad.

Come on, you love to bite the hand that feeds you, admit it, you find it delicious.

i love my nation, and hate to see it obliterated by the country--prolly the same as you. The US has done great things for the world; i wouldn't deny this. But we are also in a sense the very best country the world has ever produced; "the world" being the active part there.

My perspective is intended to show that we are also an empire in the decline/collapse stage, and if you are going to identify as a citizen of the US--which is strictly against Scripture anyway--it is more productive to examine the unpleasant realities, rather than make excuses and be seen to be a hypocrite.

So when the hand that feeds me is feeding me a steady diet of poison--all that fake food in the center aisles of the grocery store--and furthermore i see that the hand is not even who it is supposed to be, but some shadowy collection of psychopaths with a stated goal of population reduction, and all of this paragraph is documented, and not really even disputed much where it matters, except by some of the very people who should have the clearest insight into it, knowing that satan controls the world and all and this is all verifiable in Scripture, yes, it might appear as if i am enjoying myself.

We are called as believers to examine the other side of the story, but most of the time i think even my replies are all vanity, as the narrative has even been hijacked.
What do CAIR or America even have to do with a believer?


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