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votivesoul 12-18-2015 09:00 PM

Star Wars: The Force Awakens
 
First, let me say that I am not anti-entertainment, anti-movies, anti-movie theaters, or anti-Star Wars. I enjoy being entertained, watch movies occasionally, even at movie theaters, rarely, and have seen all the Star Wars many times, and consider myself a fan.

But something about this one has me concerned. It's not the movie itself. It's the way so many are obsessing over it. Even Apostolic believers I know are entrenched and have been chomping at the bit for this movie to come out.

Maybe I am over-reacting, but I fear this film has helped to cause believers in Christ to desire a little more escapism into the realm of fiction and fantasy, something too many believers already enjoy.

Maybe it's just a harmless flick, made for popcorn and a date night? But I feel an undercurrent in this. It's as if it' somehow as important to people as the Second Coming (an exaggeration, I know!).

What are your thoughts?

votivesoul 12-18-2015 09:08 PM

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The thing is, I work at Walmart, in the toy department, and I see the way toy makers suck people in, beginning with children.

There is a line of toys called Imaginext by Fisher Price:

http://www.fisher-price.com/en_US/br...ext/index.html

They create all sorts of child friendly, fun looking toys based on commercially licensed products, like DC Superheroes, for example.

They are super appealing to kids, and sell well. But, that's the hook. The 4-5 year old is indoctrinated early, and then graduated to the next level of toys. When he or she is a teen, then the next, and the next, and pretty soon, you've been obsessed with a character since before you could tie your shoes, and before you know it, you're Lot's wife having a hard time walking away from your entertainment should the Lord ever ask you to walk away from it.

I see this with Star Wars the most. With Star Wars, Playskool has the rights:

http://www.hasbro.com/en-us/product/...B-9261790E94BE

Maybe I'm being super-spiritual, but I think there is something evil about all this.

Carl 12-18-2015 09:23 PM

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My wife's aunt was saying the same thing to us today. She is in her seventies, a lifelong apostolic, who just shakes her head at all the fads and hysteria in the secular world. Having grown up apostolic myself, we never went to movies so I did not get the appeal of it.

TJJJ 12-18-2015 09:59 PM

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Star wars is as demonic as it can get, next to the twilight series.

Esaias 12-18-2015 11:42 PM

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Bread and Circuses! Bread and Circuses!

Evang.Benincasa 12-19-2015 06:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1412992)
Bread and Circuses! Bread and Circuses!

:nod

Sean 12-19-2015 08:24 AM

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Aaron, the world is looking for a hero to replace the True Hero of mankind. Hollywood is presenting heroes' daily to get our minds off of Jesus, and onto men.

Even if they are fictitious men.

Sean 12-19-2015 08:26 AM

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I think the passion was the best "Hero" movie, because the True Hero was the star.

Pressing-On 12-19-2015 09:05 AM

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I buy fun educational toys for my grandchildren and let his parents buy the other stuff. They play with my toys the most. :D Who is going to play with an action figure, when you can build and play with a Lego tree house?

Praxeas 12-19-2015 05:37 PM

Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1412965)
First, let me say that I am not anti-entertainment, anti-movies, anti-movie theaters, or anti-Star Wars. I enjoy being entertained, watch movies occasionally, even at movie theaters, rarely, and have seen all the Star Wars many times, and consider myself a fan.

But something about this one has me concerned. It's not the movie itself. It's the way so many are obsessing over it. Even Apostolic believers I know are entrenched and have been chomping at the bit for this movie to come out.

Maybe I am over-reacting, but I fear this film has helped to cause believers in Christ to desire a little more escapism into the realm of fiction and fantasy, something too many believers already enjoy.

Maybe it's just a harmless flick, made for popcorn and a date night? But I feel an undercurrent in this. It's as if it' somehow as important to people as the Second Coming (an exaggeration, I know!).

What are your thoughts?

Over reaction. Its not an obsession but excitement. For many of us, this is the long awaited sequel

For many kids this is like Halloween and going to Disneyland all rolled into one. I went to see the movie today and saw little kids dressed up. They were very excited

This is just another source of entertainment for us Americans. As long as it does not replace or interfere with our devotion to God, its no big deal to me

Disciple4life 12-21-2015 11:08 AM

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To me the Star Wars series is great. I like it more now than when I was a kid.
There are many great hidden lessons in the Star Wars movies.
Good will triumph. Darth Vader didn't start out evil. Remind you of anyone else from the bible?

I just really irks me when someone praises CS Lewis for his books and movies
and then roast anyone else for using the entertainment industry
to put out a good story with valuable lessons. :blah

Of course Jesus should be first in your life, if that isn't the case it doesn't matter what movies you watch. You aren't serving Jesus like you should.

n david 12-21-2015 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Disciple4life (Post 1413611)
I just really irks me when someone praises CS Lewis for his books and movies
and then roast anyone else for using the entertainment industry
to put out a good story with valuable lessons. :blah

Spot on!

Jason B 12-21-2015 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1412965)
First, let me say that I am not anti-entertainment, anti-movies, anti-movie theaters, or anti-Star Wars. I enjoy being entertained, watch movies occasionally, even at movie theaters, rarely, and have seen all the Star Wars many times, and consider myself a fan.

But something about this one has me concerned. It's not the movie itself. It's the way so many are obsessing over it. Even Apostolic believers I know are entrenched and have been chomping at the bit for this movie to come out.

Maybe I am over-reacting, but I fear this film has helped to cause believers in Christ to desire a little more escapism into the realm of fiction and fantasy, something too many believers already enjoy.

Maybe it's just a harmless flick, made for popcorn and a date night? But I feel an undercurrent in this. It's as if it' somehow as important to people as the Second Coming (an exaggeration, I know!).

What are your thoughts?

Maybe I live under a rock. I'm aware there's a Star Wars movie coming out, but I don't care. I don't know who's in it or what it's about. I own a TV, I go to the movies. Those things don't control me.

Sean 12-21-2015 06:42 PM

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My son said he saw it yesterday and it was okay, but not as good as the 1st one.

Esaias 12-22-2015 04:42 PM

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May the Farce be with you all!

Esaias 12-22-2015 04:44 PM

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Hey, does anybody remember this?

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5...0/hardware.jpg

Sean 12-22-2015 04:45 PM

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Esaias....I am your father.......

Esaias 12-22-2015 04:45 PM

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/PQClpdysvIU/hqdefault.jpg

Esaias 12-22-2015 04:47 PM

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http://www.byrnerobotics.com/forum/u..._hardware2.jpg

Sean 12-22-2015 04:47 PM

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I saw the first one in a theater around 1975ish.....It ended with the whole theater cheering and clapping at the destruction of the death star.

The graphics and plot captivated everyone that saw it in those days.

Esaias 12-22-2015 04:51 PM

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http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1163_.jpg

Esaias 12-22-2015 04:52 PM

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http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...9/9a/Jhale.JPG

Esaias 12-22-2015 04:55 PM

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http://www.pjinvestigation.ch/wp-con...015/06/SW5.jpg

Esaias 12-22-2015 04:59 PM

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Surely SOMEBODY here grew up in the 70s-80s?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...L._SL1500_.jpg

CC1 12-23-2015 09:13 AM

Re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by votivesoul (Post 1412965)
First, let me say that I am not anti-entertainment, anti-movies, anti-movie theaters, or anti-Star Wars. I enjoy being entertained, watch movies occasionally, even at movie theaters, rarely, and have seen all the Star Wars many times, and consider myself a fan.

But something about this one has me concerned. It's not the movie itself. It's the way so many are obsessing over it. Even Apostolic believers I know are entrenched and have been chomping at the bit for this movie to come out.

Maybe I am over-reacting, but I fear this film has helped to cause believers in Christ to desire a little more escapism into the realm of fiction and fantasy, something too many believers already enjoy.

Maybe it's just a harmless flick, made for popcorn and a date night? But I feel an undercurrent in this. It's as if it' somehow as important to people as the Second Coming (an exaggeration, I know!).

What are your thoughts?

I believe you are overreacting. No doubt it is more important to "some people more than the second coming" because the vast majority of Americans are only nominally christian and have no real interest or understanding of the second coming.

I think it is a knee jerk reaction to accuse committed christians who are excited about this movie of the same.

In my case I was a teenager when the first Star Wars came out and being a Science Fiction fan I saw it the first weekend it was out before it became a phenomena. Up to that time space movies had terrible special effects. When I sat in that theater and watched the opening scene of Star Wars and that giant space ship rumbled onto the screen over that smaller ship it was pretty amazing. Then the special effects were matched by a great story of good vs evil and good acting and direction.

Those first three Star Wars movies were very enjoyable. Hated the first of the three modern ones and the second to were just so so. In this new one director / producer JJ Abrams has captured the magic of the orignial three.

Don't be a grinch and begrudge people enjoying a great version of a beloved entertainment

Esaias 12-23-2015 02:38 PM

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Nobody remembers Hardware Wars? Seriously?

You guys are lame.

lol

CC1 12-23-2015 06:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1414408)
Nobody remembers Hardware Wars? Seriously?

You guys are lame.

lol


I feel deprived!

Praxeas 12-23-2015 08:16 PM

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http://www.eonline.com/eol_images/En...ke.jw.2615.jpg

shazeep 12-29-2015 08:28 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1414432)
I feel deprived!

me, too! It was much more my speed :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGDdFuDwTZ8

CC1 12-29-2015 09:13 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1412975)
Star wars is as demonic as it can get, next to the twilight series.

May I jump in to say a big "Good Grief!" here.

CC1 12-29-2015 09:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Disciple4life (Post 1413611)
To me the Star Wars series is great. I like it more now than when I was a kid.
There are many great hidden lessons in the Star Wars movies.
Good will triumph. Darth Vader didn't start out evil. Remind you of anyone else from the bible?

I just really irks me when someone praises CS Lewis for his books and movies
and then roast anyone else for using the entertainment industry
to put out a good story with valuable lessons. :blah

Of course Jesus should be first in your life, if that isn't the case it doesn't matter what movies you watch. You aren't serving Jesus like you should.

Excellent post. By the way some of the posters on here write you would think all fiction should be outlawed and folks should only read the bible.

In their minds any fictional stories with heroes are trying to take the place of God. Hogwash!

shazeep 12-29-2015 09:58 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TJJJ (Post 1412975)
Star wars is as demonic as it can get, next to the twilight series.

possibly even moreso, as SW is cloaked, and more benign-appearing.


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