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So who was beind organizing 1000 "teens" to do this? Where were their mothers? Thanks to LBJ and liberalism, we don't need to ask where their fathers are.


http://abcnews.go.com/US/mall-mayhem...ry?id=35963312

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It is shameful.

It is so hard to address the racial situation in America with American black people. Too many of us are in denial and those of us who are not in denial really don't have any (public policy) solutions that do not involve massive government intervention. For me, I think much of what is happening in our communities can be addressed by revamping the public school system. Notice I said, "much" and not, "most" and NEVER would I say, "all".

The system of failure is in full force for many human beings in our communities by the age of 5.

I try to have discussions up here about what goes on up here and I get stuff like, "No neighborhood is safe", "crime happens everywhere", "whites kill people too"-- I experience these roadblocks often up here with various, random black people here in Cleveland. Some are friends and some are strangers, but many of them have the same retort, as if they've all been coached by the same loser.

I call their responses roadblocks because it is next to impossible to have a conversation about what is going on in our communities when we're convinced that what is happening in many of our communities is normal.

I do wonder sometimes if there isn't some vast conspiracy or something, enacted long ago, that intentionally or unintentionally brought black communities to the place where we are today. Planned Parenthood, cocaine, heroin, LSD and crack, decades of underfunded and understaffed schools, predatory lending practices-- all things brought in from outside of black communities that work to destroy black communities today.

Of course, people are responsible for their own individual actions, but how did drugs ever make it to the big cities in the first place?

Why are there so many Planned Parenthoods and liquor stores in black communities?

How is it that no one understands the GIGANTIC BENEFIT of proper investing in the urban population centers, where there are massive amounts of people that can add to the tax base (of the entire state) if the situations were better?

I know banks exist to make money, but surely someone sees the value in enacting policies that educate and lift the poor out of poverty instead of practices that keep them poor?

Those "Payday Loan" sharks should be banned everywhere!

It's not about just throwing money at these situations. For the things that government can and should address, the government needs to take a multi-prong approach that includes money being invested properly. For example, smaller class sizes are INFINITELY more productive than any other special program or initiative that I can imagine for a school setting.

Of course, a genuine faith in Christ would address so much more, but faith in Christ can't be legislated. I have attempted to address the issues related to public policy in our urban centers, where the largest concentrations of black Americans live, where poverty and joblessness rates are high, where crime rates are high, throughout our country.

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JD, I'm probably not your biggest fan but this was well stated :highfive

There are lots of issues and there isn't a simple solution.
I will say the the single parent home and godless education system contribute.
And a biased news system that encourages young black teens to express their misfortune, poverty, unhappiness whatever key words attract the most support!

:aaa

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I would disagree with you concerning the godless education system. I don't think the "godlessness" of the public education system is that big of a culprit.

Just because a kid goes to a Christian school, doesn't mean the kid is actually learning. Besides, I'd rather have a scheduled moment of silence daily in a public school than to have a scheduled minute of prayer daily in a public school.

All of us indeed need Jesus, but it can't be legislated or forced-- through the public education system or through any other government mechanism.

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Much of the entertainment that is geared towards the American black sub-culture is so self-destructive and so is Pepsi! Neither one of them are making any major steps toward becoming healthy for their consumers.

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Who would lead the prayer in public schools today?

Are school systems going to simply not hire teachers who happen to be a member of a religious group that is not part of Orthodox Christianity?

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Prime example of always blaming someone else instead of being accountable for ourselves.

I have lived in a great neighborhood where I was only white that I know of. Why? Because they were good hard working black people. I guess the system missed them in oppressing them.


It's a lifestyle issue, until they acknowledge that around and around it will go. Every black person/friend I know of hard working character has done well for themselves.
Why is that?

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BTW drugs finds it way to wherever there is a demand.

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I don't think I am blaming someone else as much as I am trying to shed light on the fact that the current situation is dire and will not change without a multi-pronged response.

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JD - any thoughts on how illegal immigration has hurt the African-American community?

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There was a time when there wasn't a drug problem at all.

There was a time when there wasn't a planned parenthood located inside black communities at all.

Liquor stores and predatory lending places that target the poor in urban areas that happen to be, most of time, black people...

If we wouldn't patronize them, they would go out of business, but the cycle was initiated on the poor, maybe to keep them quiet and happy and comfortable in their poverty? Maybe there is something even more nefarious at work?

Wondering isn't directly blaming anyway and I started that part of my post acknowledging my thoughts out loud.

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It's not just poor who do drugs, drink and have abortions. It touches all of society, there is no conspiracy.

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IMO the biggest issue in the Black community is the breakup of the home. It seems to me that the "Great Society" did much to precipitate this. BTW it is not unique to any race. It seems to me that the black community was targeted and welfare help demanded that the father be absent from the home - if I understand it correctly. Planned Parenthood did in fact target the black community and was instigated by a racist. I believe - I cannot prove it - that the drugs first entered the black community through government agencies like the CIA many many years ago. No doubt it goes back to Woodrow Wilson who was a racist. IMO it is like the "healthcare" given to African American men who were given placebo's so disease could be tracked in the human body. Some of this is conspiracy and some of it is truth. It is just an opinion... :)

I do wonder what your thoughts are on this though.

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Planned Parenthood founder

Margaret Sanger:
Margaret Sanger has been lauded by some as a woman of valor, but a closer look reveals that Planned Parenthood’s audacious founder had some unsavory things to say about matters of race, birth control, and abortion. An outspoken eugenicist herself, Sanger consistently promoted racist ideals with a contemptuous attitude.
http://www.lifenews.com/2013/03/11/1...rgaret-sanger/



During her lifetime, Margaret Sanger publicly urged the elimination of "human weeds," the "cessation of charity," and the sterilization of "genetically inferior races." She championed the "science" of eugenics, ridiculed God and marriage, and founded Planned Parenthood, which has grown to become the largest abortion-provider in America.
http://www.abort73.com/abortion/plan..._racist_roots/

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I appreciate all you have had to say in this thread. But I still must wonder, who is organizing these kids. Van Jones? Whoever it is should be tried for child endangerment if any of these kids are under 18.

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She spoke at KKK conventions on more than one occasion.

Police were saying this wasn't organized.

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The immediate, obvious effect of illegal immigration that sticks out is with the low wage, skilled and unskilled laborer market. However, the bruise there is big in that it doesn't just effect blacks in America, but every employee and business owner in that area of employment in the country.

Capitalism is good but raw capitalism unchecked by government regulation is not healthy for the country.

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I don't know who Van Jones is. Should I know who this is?

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The break up of the home has been a problem in the black community for some black families, in reality, since slavery times. If there is one vestige still left over from that gruesome part of our American history, it would be the destruction of the family unit.

In my family history and in many other family histories of blacks I have spoken with, NOT FOR ALL, but for many, a clear ancestral family tree doesn't exist before the early 1900's. My Grandpa's family line is clear, but my Grandma's family line is not "traditional" once we go back beyond her.

I think there are other factors that exacerbate the tenuous situation in 21st century America, but the broken home phenomenon is not new for our community. It has spread like a malignant cancer, but it isn't new.

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Maybe you're right, maybe you're not. Either way, individuals are still responsible for their individual bad decisions, even if they had no clue just how bad and far-reaching one of their decisions might be.

For example, the FBI encouraged and initiated the plans to assassinate Malcolm X, but at the end of it all, he was killed by two black guys, Nation of Islam members, that were trusted.

The devil must have willing candidates.

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Number revised up to 2000. This had to be organized.

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2000?

Did this event even really happen?

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I am highly skeptical that even 1,000 teenagers participated in this.

I flat out don't believe 2,000 teenagers were involved in this.

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I would say that illegal immigration kept wages down and profits up. Thus helping to shrink the middle class.
And contributing to the increasing divide between the rich and poor.

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That is why i make a distinction between country and nation, as those things are all obviously great for the country, but at the expense of the nation.

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I think they should round them all up and force them into an extensive work camp, which would involve working and getting a proper education. Maybe if they got away from their loser parents and neighborhoods, they could make something out of their loser lives. They are not making a good case for #BLM.

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:lol yikes

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http://www.wlky.com/news/police-to-m..._campaign=wlky

http://www.wdrb.com/story/30843281/m...e-unsupervised

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2478630

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“There was not a single person arrested…There wasn’t a single window broken or anything stolen from anybody. It was just too many kids in one place at one time,” Mayor Tonini said. “I’m sure not afraid of going [to the mall] and I hope no one else is.”

What a laugh. The Roman Empire ruled by taking events and blowing them out of proportion. Ruling thorough fear and threats of danger.

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Running through the malls like a bunch of hooligans is cause for alarm and shouldn't be tolerated. If they can't have some semblance of intelligence, they need to stay away from public places.

Haven't read anywhere yet where this was attributed to blm or even something like a flash mob or anything organized.

One article interviewing teens from the incident said they were just there to hang out after the rec center closed.

I'd question the alleged number, as that's really high. I doubt it was anywhere near the 2,000 being alleged.

And as was pointed out, no vandalism or damages to stores, so it doesn't follow the pattern of these flash mobs or blm protests.

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It doesn't matter whether anything was broken or not. It is bad for business to have a bunch of uneducated, uncivilized young people "running" through the mall. I'm not going to frequent a mall where hundreds of young people are running past me. They shouldn't be allowed to have this kind of control over the management.

I read it was between 1,000 and 2,000 kids. So, the consensus is that there were a WHOLE lot of young kids running through the mall. 1 or 200 is quite enough to cause a disturbance.

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A mob of young people walked out of a pizza place one night a few years ago in Memphis and just decided to attack an innocent man in front of a grocery store.

http://m.memphisflyer.com/NewsBlog/a...er-parking-lot

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On this we agree.

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Excelente! Great way to start a NEW YEAR!! :highfive

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Kids will be kids, I bet it was even calmer then what the infallible media has led us to believe.

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Seriously, are you SURE someone hasn't hijacked your account?

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:foottap

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Cell phone footage of the 'youths': (Voices have been mangled since many are under 18)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpfhnNK7iKY