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mfblume 01-16-2016 05:20 PM

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A preacher told me years ago that David Wilkerson was interested in the apostolic doctrine and movement. So, he attended a general conference in the seventies or early eighties -- more likely seventies -- and a man who had been wanting to speak at the conference after having assisted, and been there to help organize the meetings, finally was given the word he could preach. That was the meeting Wilkerson arrived to hear. As Wilkerson sat there listening, the speaker referred to time spent time on the farm. He had a crude tongue, meant nothing by it, and used the "s" word in the midst of his sermon, talking about wading through the farm fields and manure, etc..

Those in attendance claimed Wilkerson walked out shaking his head.

Any one hear of that?

Michael The Disciple 01-16-2016 06:37 PM

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I never heard that story. I did hear his brother Don was interested in the Apostolic way. Of course that was just from a cousin of mine passing it on. I dont know of any proof.

Rudy 01-16-2016 07:15 PM

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I haven't.

Evang.Benincasa 01-16-2016 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1418037)
A preacher told me years ago that David Wilkerson was interested in the apostolic doctrine and movement. So, he attended a general conference in the seventies or early eighties -- more likely seventies -- and a man who had been wanting to speak at the conference after having assisted, and been there to help organize the meetings, finally was given the word he could preach. That was the meeting Wilkerson arrived to hear. As Wilkerson sat there listening, the speaker referred to time spent time on the farm. He had a crude tongue, meant nothing by it, and used the "s" word in the midst of his sermon, talking about wading through the farm fields and manure, etc..

Those in attendance claimed Wilkerson walked out shaking his head.

Any one hear of that?

Never heard the story, but if I walked out of every meeting early just because someone dropped the water melon I would be a Trinitarian too. ;)

CC1 01-19-2016 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1418037)
A preacher told me years ago that David Wilkerson was interested in the apostolic doctrine and movement. So, he attended a general conference in the seventies or early eighties -- more likely seventies -- and a man who had been wanting to speak at the conference after having assisted, and been there to help organize the meetings, finally was given the word he could preach. That was the meeting Wilkerson arrived to hear. As Wilkerson sat there listening, the speaker referred to time spent time on the farm. He had a crude tongue, meant nothing by it, and used the "s" word in the midst of his sermon, talking about wading through the farm fields and manure, etc..

Those in attendance claimed Wilkerson walked out shaking his head.

Any one hear of that?

I never heard that one. Could be true. Could be false. Could have a kernal of truth. My guess is the third one is most likely. DW could have been in town and grabbing a cup of coffee at a restaurantt next to the GC at which a preacher said a bad word!

mfblume 01-19-2016 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 1418750)
I never heard that one. Could be true. Could be false. Could have a kernal of truth. My guess is the third one is most likely. DW could have been in town and grabbing a cup of coffee at a restaurantt next to the GC at which a preacher said a bad word!

Wilkerson was definitely in a general conference meeting. Just not sure it was THAT one. I heard others say they were there when the preacher mentioned the "s" word. So that is true as well. Just wondering if the two stories are connected.

n david 01-19-2016 09:34 PM

I would be very surprised if this were true. No way any speaker at a GC has used that kind of expletive.

I'll ask my parents if they remember. They attended every GC from the 60s through the mid 2000s when they retired.

mfblume 01-19-2016 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1418764)
I would be very surprised if this were true. No way any speaker at a GC has used that kind of expletive.

That DID happen. I heard the same report of that incident from more than one person, and neither knew each other. But I think it was an afternoon sessions, and certainly not the evening showcase service for the day.

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I'll ask my parents if they remember. They attended every GC from the 60s through the mid 2000s when they retired.
Yes.

Evang.Benincasa 01-19-2016 11:13 PM

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Anyway, no one ever cursed over a pulpit in any General Conference.

Want to know why I know that is a fact?

Because the haters would of embellished it to the point of no return. They would of paraded it in front of Apostolic faces, rubbed our Apostolic noses in it, and pretty much danced up and down our backs with the story.

So, no, no one ever cursed over a pulpit at a General Conference.

Truthseeker 01-20-2016 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1418767)
I was at the GC when the speaker spoke against girls performing OS as sin...

Isn't that rue though?

Jermyn Davidson 01-20-2016 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1418807)
Isn't that rue though?

If they are not married. According to the Bible, sexual intimacy is sinful outside of marriage.

Michael The Disciple 01-21-2016 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1418903)
If they are not married. According to the Bible, sexual intimacy is sinful outside of marriage.

:thumbsup

Servant's <3 01-21-2016 12:26 PM

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I find it funny that you sort of skirted the question... of course anything of a sexual nature is sinful outside of marriage. What about inside of marriage?

I'm not married so the question has no interest for me either way.

Truthseeker 01-21-2016 06:31 PM

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If they are not married. According to the Bible, sexual intimacy is sinful outside of marriage.

Married or not, its perversion.

n david 01-21-2016 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1419106)
Married or not, its perversion.

Wait, sexual intimacy within marriage is perversion?

Uhhhh

Jermyn Davidson 01-21-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1419106)
Married or not, its perversion.



I find it interesting that when the Jewish Apostles had the opportunity to burden the new Gentile converts with Jewish laws and customs, they did the exact opposite.

Jermyn Davidson 01-21-2016 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Servant's <3 (Post 1419078)
I find it funny that you sort of skirted the question... of course anything of a sexual nature is sinful outside of marriage. What about inside of marriage?

I'm not married so the question has no interest for me either way.

:happydance

Truthseeker 01-21-2016 07:46 PM

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I find it interesting that when the Jewish Apostles had the opportunity to burden the new Gentile converts with Jewish laws and customs, they did the exact opposite.

They didn't burden them with no cigarette smoking standard either.

Evang.Benincasa 01-21-2016 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1419124)
They didn't burden them with no cigarette smoking standard either.

I will

Jermyn Davidson 01-21-2016 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1419126)
I will

Well cigs actually harm the body, our temple. It is irresponsible and harmful to ourselves and others when we smoke.

Evang.Benincasa 01-21-2016 08:23 PM

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Well cigs actually harm the body, our temple. It is irresponsible and harmful to ourselves and others when we smoke.

Bro, what married people do behind the doors of their rooms, is none of anyone's business. The day I got to preach that garbage over a pulpit someone better check to see if I got dementia.

Jermyn Davidson 01-21-2016 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1419138)
Bro, what married people do behind the doors of their rooms, is none of anyone's business. The day I got to preach that garbage over a pulpit someone better check to see if I got dementia.

:highfive

We agree.

jfrog 01-21-2016 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1419129)
Well cigs actually harm the body, our temple. It is irresponsible and harmful to ourselves and others when we smoke.

most harmful things don't get preached about. We pick and choose our favorites.

Evang.Benincasa 01-21-2016 09:48 PM

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Jermyn Davidson 01-21-2016 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1419152)
most harmful things don't get preached about. We pick and choose our favorites.

When is the last time you heard a sermon against soda?

Evang.Benincasa 01-21-2016 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1419157)
When is the last time you heard a sermon against soda?

8 months ago

good samaritan 01-21-2016 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1419138)
Bro, what married people do behind the doors of their rooms, is none of anyone's business. The day I got to preach that garbage over a pulpit someone better check to see if I got dementia.


:yourock

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Truthseeker 01-22-2016 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1419138)
Bro, what married people do behind the doors of their rooms, is none of anyone's business. The day I got to preach that garbage over a pulpit someone better check to see if I got dementia.



I don't think it should be preached from pulpit either. It should be taught in proper setting.

I find it interesting a preacher would preach about pants being immodest but have no issue with with perversion. Interesting indeed.

Evang.Benincasa 01-22-2016 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1419180)
I don't think it should be preached from pulpit either. It should be taught in proper setting.

I find it interesting a preacher would preach about pants being immodest but have no issue with with perversion. Interesting indeed.

Bro, I'm not one to discuss certain issues with couples. I want people to get the Holy Ghost, THE HOLY GHOST (not the phoney ghost) to have a quality prayer life, to seek direction from Jesus Christ through the word, and preaching. If a couple has all that together loving God, then everything should be running smooth. I want to hear the word, book, chapter, and verse, not story time, or explaining how the Tower of Babel was really a rocketship. :)

Truthseeker 01-22-2016 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1419185)
Bro, I'm not one to discuss certain issues with couples. I want people to get the Holy Ghost, THE HOLY GHOST (not the phoney ghost) to have a quality prayer life, to seek direction from Jesus Christ through the word, and preaching. If a couple has all that together loving God, then everything should be running smooth. I want to hear the word, book, chapter, and verse, not story time, or explaining how the Tower of Babel was really a rocketship. :)


So do you teach any standards then? Do you teach against facial hair. If so, why? Shouldn't Holy Ghost be telling them that?

Evang.Benincasa 01-22-2016 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1419196)
So do you teach any standards then? Do you teach against facial hair. If so, why? Shouldn't Holy Ghost be telling them that?

Yes, I teach standards, but the bedroom isn't the place to have a Bible study with a married couple.

The Holy Ghost (if someone has the Holy Ghost) should most definitely teach them everything. The eldership is there to ask the questions, which need to be asked when someone has an epiphany.

Truthseeker 01-22-2016 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1419198)
Yes, I teach standards, but the bedroom isn't the place to have a Bible study with a married couple.

The Holy Ghost (if someone has the Holy Ghost) should most definitely teach them everything. The eldership is there to ask the questions, which need to be asked when someone has an epiphany.


Why not let the Holy Ghost lead regarding standards too?

shazeep 01-22-2016 09:12 AM

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:lol zing

Evang.Benincasa 01-22-2016 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1419202)
Why not let the Holy Ghost lead regarding standards too?

He does. ;)

allstate1 01-22-2016 12:53 PM

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So do you teach any standards then? Do you teach against facial hair. If so, why? Shouldn't Holy Ghost be telling them that?

I am not a standards person but standards and the aforementioned thing is not even a comparison!!!!!

allstate1 01-22-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1419138)
Bro, what married people do behind the doors of their rooms, is none of anyone's business. The day I got to preach that garbage over a pulpit someone better check to see if I got dementia.

I agree! I cant imagine why an individual, muchless a preacher would worry, wonder or think about what a married couple are doing!!!

Truthseeker 01-22-2016 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by allstate1 (Post 1419274)
I am not a standards person but standards and the aforementioned thing is not even a comparison!!!!!

I was referring to his view to let the Spirit lead a couple in that area, but not let the Spirit do the same for standards.
Not that the two are the same. No doubt sexual perversion is not the same as standards that include many man made traditions.

Truthseeker 01-22-2016 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1419251)
He does. ;)

So why teach standards? Just let the Spirit take care of them.

allstate1 01-22-2016 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1419318)
So why teach standards? Just let the Spirit take care of them.

Well you have to have visible standards so the preacher and saints can have a gauge of spirituality. ( sarcasm) Plus why do you consider "that" perversion?? I think its way more perverted to think or wonder what another couple enjoys !!


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