"NY Values?"-- SC GOP'ers LOVE Trump!
 

The attitudes of SC GOP'ers who support Trump towards their fellow Americans are, well, I find them honestly DISGUSTING!

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/20...is-terrifying/


This article is significant, telling, and sad.

Hopefully, not too many of the "Religious Right" get caught up in the Trump movement.

The Trump train is not bound for Glory.

No, the Trump train is bound for destruction!

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Trump coddles and encourages racists.

Simple as that.

obama coddles known domestic terrorist Bill Ayers.

obama's train is bound for destruction as well.

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You can't find solace in this, do you?

The whole premise behind the, "Religious Right" is that they are religious i.e. Christian and RIGHT-- not just to the right politically, but actually RIGHT (not wrong).

That may be your definition, but it's not the real definition. The religious right is simply that...the religious right wing of politics.

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Thanks.

Still, no solace.

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JD - is Farrakhan a racist?
Yes
Has BHO coddled him?
Yes
Therefore BHO=Trump in coddling racists

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Farrakhan? BHO has distanced himself from him since his first campaign. Nice try bub.

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Ok, since you don't like that one let's try everyone's favorite tax evader - Al Sharpton.
Lol.

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See at least you have a point there.

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Has f-khan said or done anything to oppress you? Has his existence actually affected any of your attempts to succeed in life?

In what was has President Obama coddled f-khan anyway?


The things that f-khan and others of his hateful ilk suggests has never and will never happen in America.

The things that white racists suggest was THE ACTUAL way of life in America for my Dad's generation and even for some of my cousins who are older than me, but not my Dad's age.

There lies the difference and the danger.

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JD - what has any white "racist" said or done to oppress you? Has their existence actually effected any of your attempts to succeed in life?

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White racism stopped me from being able to buy the home I wanted in the neighborhood I wanted in upstate NY back in 2007.

It is within the rights of a homeowner to determine who they sell their home to and they specifically told my agent that they didn't want to sell their home to a black person.

When I was in the Marine Corps, stationed at Camp Lejeune, I know for a fact that I had racists in my Company and even in my unit and there were a couple situations, accusations, and such that occurred, but the Lord brought me out on top. If it wasn't for the Lord though, it could have ended differently.

I had a few minor experiences when I lived in Mobile, but nothing that really affected my life-- short term or long.

I have had several dubious run-ins with law enforcement where I am sure my race played a factor. If I had responded the wrong way, things would have ended differently-- but I wasn't the one to initiate contact with the police. They initiated contact-- different police officers in various circumstances with the same m.o. and results.

As for stopping ME from succeeding, I don't think it has-- but I sound "proper" (aka "white") when I speak, I joined the military when I was 17 and most of my civilian jobs have somehow been related to my time in the service.

However, it has affected my Dad and he is still alive and not even elderly. It has affected some of my older cousins as well.

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Al Sharpton is not a racist.

Try again.

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JD - legally a homeowner cannot do that.
link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Housing_Act
If the homeowner said that they would be liable for damages.
Also, if you met their asking price they have no choice but to agree to sell.
Insofar as other discrimination, I have experienced some of that myself.
Many, many times.
Some of these were trivial and some were not.
And this was discrimination from African Americans.
I would also say that I had several interactions with Law Enforcement in my youth. Nothing serious, just stuff young men get into. However, if I had gone into those situations with the presupposition that the cops were out to get me, then I could have perceived that as the reason, rather then them just doing their job.
Just remembered a situation where we were buying a house. We had made an offer and it was accepted, then the homeowner backed out. Why? I do not know. He was a different race than I am, so I could have said that was why, but I really do not know and did not worry about it.
God gave us a better house!

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With all the above, I will agree with an earlier post of yours which talked about the definitions of racism versus systemic racism.
One of the worst examples of governmental racism was the US Department of Agriculture discriminating against any non-white farmers for years, under both parties.
This had the effect of driving these farmers from their land.
There was a settlement, but it could never be enough.

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The house thing, that was racial and also illegal.

Are there racists in the military. Sure. I'm not sure how you knew these guys were since you didn't really share the whole story.

I know plenty of white people that have had dubious run ins with the law and if they responded wrong they would have had major problems too. Having a dubious run in doesn't mean it was because you were black.

And finally, I guarantee I'd experience racism if I moved to an almost all black neighborhood because I am white. It'd be harder to find a job. People would naturally be more suspicious of me. Though while it would fit the definition, I wouldn't think of it as a racial issue but as a cultural issue.

Racial and cultural lines often overlap the same people. It makes it hard to distinguish what is caused because of your race and what is caused because your culture is different.

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I played a lot of BB as a young man.
And most of it was in black neighborhoods.
I learned how to take the abuse and just let my game talk.
Also, people learning that the 6'3 250 black guy with me was my best friend, tended to help...

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I thank you for this post.

It is so important.

Sadly today proves there is nothing GREAT or Godly about America anymore! We need to stop pretending.

Sometimes I wonder what happened... I remember in the 80's when people at church started talking about the need to get involved in the political system...I was young and excited...but it turned from a Christian perspective to a pure conservative movement, that went off the deep end...

If anything, the light of the TRUE CHURCH will shine brighter in these darkening latter days. But we cannot sit by and pretend any of these politicians truly have our best interests at heart. They do not. They lie to us to steal our votes. Is there any one politician today that truly resembles the teaches of the Lord Jesus Christ? I would be hard pressed to find one.

But anybody who thinks Trump may represent what Christians need really need to pray and seek God. Especially after watching this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcUCLwWCihE

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People are too angry to listen to reason. That is how a populist takes advantage and runs with it.

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I think the same claim can be made for Cruz supporters.

It's just that "The Donald" is more vociferous with the "anti-immigrant, anti-muslim, etc" views than Cruz or the other republican candidates. Thus it is logical that he gains the most traction. That is what a large number of the republican base wants.

The other candidates talk about a pathway to legalization for illegals when a good amount of their constituency would rather just round up the illegals and throw them out or worse.

Also, Fox news has been propagating "The Donald's" views for some years feeding the so called anger among the republican base. Well, the chickens have come to roost and it ain't pretty...

If Trump wins the general election (gosh I seriously hope not), blacks in the south might need to start migrating back up north...

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What reason does Donald Trump have that we need to listen to? He is louder and verbose, but does he know what really made American great? He doesn't.

Ted Cruz is exactly what the grassroots have always wanted - Send a man to Congress, have them fight for what they promised their constituents and DON'T change! So, he has done that, and they want a loud-mouthed, bloviating jackanape.

I hope that Ted Cruz stays exactly how he is. He will always be a winner.

The reality is that the RNC has rigged the game in SC against having a Conservative win. They have an Open Primary so that Democrats can cross over. If they had not put that option in place, Ted would have won SC and Trump would have come in third.

So, here are the numbers - for anyone wanting to get into the deeper analysis:

A Perspective of the S. Carolina Primary and how Democrats spoiled it.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/micha...95893357094580

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I am glad someone else sees what I see and have been saying for a long time.

Not sure Ted would have won, even with a closed primary. He lost the Evangelical vote and was a very close third behind Rubio.

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Kind of shocking that the educated, GOP, Christian voters simply didn't support Cruz.

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I'm guessing characterizing him as a liar by Rubio and Trump affected his number

Nothing Cruz did/didn't do would have changed the outcome. People are angry and Trump has tapped into that anger so much they don't see his faults and lack of any kind of depth or substance to his policies.

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People are angry and anxious.

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Which wasn't true at all.

Rubio is wadded up about a photo-shopped picture? Rubio did cast the deciding vote on TPA. He DID side with Obama. There was no lie in that photo. Cruz pulled out because McConnell lied about no back rooms deals. Cruz found out McConnell was lying and said as much on the Senate floor. So, now you can see why the GOPe hates his guts.

In regards to Ben Carson's campaign - The Ted Cruz's camp did what any intelligent campaign would do - someone is dropping out, get their votes quickly.

The bottom line, ad nauseam - Ben Carson's people spilled the beans and got the rumor going. Ben Carson doesn't want to take responsibility for that. CNN never corrected, on national television, their narrative that something was amiss. Cruz's people weren't sitting around reading reporters Tweets. What in the world do you want a campaign to do at that point during a Caucus - sit down and lose the votes? Carson left the campaign at one point - to hawk his book; didn't go to NH opting to tape a show with The VIEW - hawking his book; his campaign had major shakeups; he's reported to be running through his money. Good grief! He is not running a good campaign. The story wasn't very hard to believe.

Lastly, the Robo-calls about Trump in SC were about the Confederate Flag - there was not one thing on that robo-call that wasn't true. Over 70% of the people wanted that flag to stay on capitol grounds. The voice of Trump was saying to "take it down and put it in a museum". He did say that and now Trump is calling that a lie? No, it's not.

His campaign flyers were modeled after ads used by the RNC, used by IOWA Governor and Secy of State in 2014, used by Marco Rubio, used by Joni Ernst.

This narrative about Cruz running a dishonest campaign is a bunch of bogus hogwash.

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Pressing-On loves her some Eduardo!

:nod

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Cruz carried the actual Evangelicals. The rest are just "random, white, occasional churchgoers."

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:spit
You left out the angry, anxious, and nationalist-almost-racist part of the description.

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You appear more racist than anyone, Jermyn. Did you like Beyonce's half time show?

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As a matter of fact, no I didn't.

However, her Halftime show wasn't racist, like some are trying to make it out to be. The ORIGINAL Black Panthers had whites with them, here in America and at their height, had support from whites all over Germany, Finland and Denmark.

They never advocated the random killing of innocent white people. Never.

These guys were socialist, hated capitalism, advocated open carry and self-defense in a time where cops were still openly racist in rhetoric and policy.

It's funny how some on the far-left and some on the far-right have A LOT in common-- especially when it comes to the distrust of government!

The FBI and CIA would never let those factions unite though-- not then and not now.

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I am reminded of when the Oath-Keepers went to Ferguson. People were very nervous. I was very nervous.

Then, look how it ended.

The FBI and CIA wouldn't like it though for those factions and others like them to unite.

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Uninformed voters do not care about details. Whoever is pandering to their insecurities the most wins their vote.

Ben Carson though, the less said about him, the better - He is the definition of "How not to run a campaign 101"

PO,
What did you think about Palin endorsing Trump instead of Cruz? I figured she would endorse Cruz based on the whole tea party movement stuff.