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deacon blues 03-13-2016 07:19 AM

Trouble for Democrats
 
67% increase in GOP voters in the primaries.

23% decrease in Democrat voter participation.

Dems aren't too excited about Hillary and Bernie.

Bodes well for a GOP White House.

Americans have Obama fatigue and liberal policies run amok. Eight years haven't exactly created the hope and change. People have less hope and things have changed---for the worse. Obama has done more to hurt the Democrat party than anyone in modern political history.

n david 03-13-2016 10:11 AM

LoL. Have you heard of Limbaugh's Operation Chaos? I highly doubt these Democrats who voted Trump in the primaries will vote Trump again in November. This is being done in open primaries to make sure the weakest candidate, Trump, is the nominee.

His campaign and poll numbers are like movie sets from the old days...all a false front with nothing behind it.

jfrog 03-14-2016 10:02 AM

Re: Trouble for Democrats
 
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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1425774)
LoL. Have you heard of Limbaugh's Operation Chaos? I highly doubt these Democrats who voted Trump in the primaries will vote Trump again in November. This is being done in open primaries to make sure the weakest candidate, Trump, is the nominee.

His campaign and poll numbers are like movie sets from the old days...all a false front with nothing behind it.

It's all just a cycle that keeps repeating. A single mass of voters get fed up with democrat policies and a republican gets elected and then once enough people get fed up with his policies then a democrat is elected.

Clinton to gwb to Obama to whoever wins the republican nomination

jfrog 03-14-2016 10:04 AM

Re: Trouble for Democrats
 
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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1425761)
67% increase in GOP voters in the primaries.

23% decrease in Democrat voter participation.

Dems aren't too excited about Hillary and Bernie.

Bodes well for a GOP White House.

Americans have Obama fatigue and liberal policies run amok. Eight years haven't exactly created the hope and change. People have less hope and things have changed---for the worse. Obama has done more to hurt the Democrat party than anyone in modern political history.

I agree

Originalist 03-14-2016 10:04 AM

Re: Trouble for Democrats
 
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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1425898)
It's all just a cycle that keeps repeating. A single mass of voters get fed up with democrat policies and a republican gets elected and then once enough people get fed up with his policies then a democrat is elected.

Clinton to gwb to Obama to whoever wins the republican nomination

I agree. This is a genuine party switch and not a Rush style "operation chaos". Democrats are being very vocal about their switch to Trump. and it is indeed a switch to Trump more than a switch to the GOP.

n david 03-14-2016 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1425900)
I agree. This is a genuine party switch and not a Rush style "operation chaos". Democrats are being very vocal about their switch to Trump. and it is indeed a switch to Trump more than a switch to the GOP.

You don't know it's a genuine party switch. You can't know this, not until the General Election.

Pressing-On 03-14-2016 10:10 AM

Re: Trouble for Democrats
 
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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1425761)
67% increase in GOP voters in the primaries.

23% decrease in Democrat voter participation.

Dems aren't too excited about Hillary and Bernie.

Bodes well for a GOP White House.

Americans have Obama fatigue and liberal policies run amok. Eight years haven't exactly created the hope and change. People have less hope and things have changed---for the worse. Obama has done more to hurt the Democrat party than anyone in modern political history.

Although good news for Hillary - Donald Trump has -77 in favorability with Hispanics. Hillary Clinton is +59. A 136% advantage.

n david 03-14-2016 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1425905)
Although good news for Hillary - Donald Trump has -77 in favorability with Hispanics. Hillary Clinton is +59. A 136% advantage.

Doesn't matter. The Donald says they all love him and he's going to win the hispanic vote.

Originalist 03-14-2016 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1425904)
You don't know it's a genuine party switch. You can't know this, not until the General Election.

Even Democrat analysts are worried. The switchers are being very vocal. Leftists can't keep their feelings hid and a reverse operation chaos would be easy to spot.

n david 03-14-2016 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1425916)
Even Democrat analysts are worried. The switchers are being very vocal. Leftists can't keep their feelings hid and a reverse operation chaos would be easy to spot.

We'll find out in October. If Trump is the nominee, it better be real or GOP will get trounced.

I still believe they're setting the Donald up for a post-GOP convention surprise. The media will turn quickly if Trump wins the nomination. All his shady business dealings, all his off the record conversations, all the stuff they've shied away from so far will come out and Trump will drop like a rock and lose as badly or worse than Romney lost in 2012.

Originalist 03-14-2016 12:29 PM

Re: Trouble for Democrats
 
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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1425921)
We'll find out in October. If Trump is the nominee, it better be real or GOP will get trounced.

I still believe they're setting the Donald up for a post-GOP convention surprise. The media will turn quickly if Trump wins the nomination. All his shady business dealings, all his off the record conversations, all the stuff they've shied away from so far will come out and Trump will drop like a rock and lose as badly or worse than Romney lost in 2012.

There will be an October suprise waiting for whoever the GOP candidate is, even Cruz. Thus far, Trump has been the only one to withstand media attacks and probably is the only GOP candidate that can survive an October surprise.

n david 03-14-2016 12:46 PM

Trump has withstood himself thus far. I haven't seen much of the media attacking Trump independent of Trump saying something incredibly controversial and the media responding.

It may be a bit different when the media begins to actually attack him.

n david 03-14-2016 12:55 PM

First thing the media could do is chip away at the personna Trump has crafted about himself: that he's self-funded; that people come to him for money, not the other way around. Trump has built himself up as someone who doesn't ask or need other's money.

But he needed Soros' $160 million and $640 million more from Deutsche Bank to build his tower in Chicago. Then he was sued for bid rigging on the deal.

Trump is holding on to his tax info for a reason. Typically candidates have released the info by now. But Trump is still holding out. Why?

Shouldn't be too hard for the media to dig into his deals and finances.

deacon blues 03-15-2016 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1425942)
Trump has withstood himself thus far. I haven't seen much of the media attacking Trump independent of Trump saying something incredibly controversial and the media responding.

It may be a bit different when the media begins to actually attack him.

What media have you been watching/listening to? They have been declaring his demise every week "this time he's gone too far"...they haven't been fawning over him, rather been dismissive or mocking of him. Now they have egg on their face. He can withstand anything they send his way. And I'm not a Trump sycophant. I voted for Cruz.

n david 03-15-2016 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1426116)
What media have you been watching/listening to? They have been declaring his demise every week "this time he's gone too far"...they haven't been fawning over him, rather been dismissive or mocking of him. Now they have egg on their face. He can withstand anything they send his way. And I'm not a Trump sycophant. I voted for Cruz.

The media has largely been RESPONDING to Trump's own comments. They haven't proactively attacked Trump. Everything the media has done has been in response to something Trump said or did. They haven't dug up or released anything new.

Esaias 03-15-2016 08:05 PM

Re: Trouble for Democrats
 
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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1425942)
I haven't seen much of the media attacking Trump ...

And what does THAT tell you?

n david 03-15-2016 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1426130)
And what does THAT tell you?

They're waiting for him to win the nomination.

Also curious is Trump's silence about George Soros spending millions to incite protests at Trump events. I guess if you borrow $160 million from Soros you give him a pass.

jfrog 03-16-2016 02:23 PM

Re: Trouble for Democrats
 
Trump has fewer demons than Hillary. Thing is most of their worst demons are already known and they still get the support they do. The media attacking either will do nothing.

n david 03-16-2016 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1426202)
Trump has fewer demons than Hillary.

Well, he's got my vote then!

:nah

Esaias 03-16-2016 05:48 PM

Re: Trouble for Democrats
 
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Originally Posted by n david (Post 1426132)
They're waiting for him to win the nomination.

Also curious is Trump's silence about George Soros spending millions to incite protests at Trump events. I guess if you borrow $160 million from Soros you give him a pass.

They aren't "waiting", they are part of the "process".

Originalist 03-16-2016 07:31 PM

Re: Trouble for Democrats
 
I have heard Trump criticize Soros.


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