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Steadfast 06-14-2007 04:06 PM
Sad Observation of Threads: LET'S CHANGE DIRECTION!
 
I know everyone's opening page will be different depending on how long it's been since they logged on but today I made a sad observation... on the front page when I logged on I found that 8 of the front 25 threads were either slamming the UPC or being used to disregard traditional Apostolic views of righteousness.

I find that incredibly sad. We have a good forum with a grand array of distinct views but, as much as I hate to say it, some of it is more antiApostolic than Apostolic.

Let's change direction! How about some real threads of substance besides the grande old 'bread and butter' "I went to a UPC Church and met Count Dracula!" / "How to whack your hair off in 36 simple steps and still feel good about it" / "Will shacking up with someone in an act of Adultery really send you to Hell if you repent daily?" type of stuff.

GOOD GRIEF!

(Where's Charlie Brown when you need him?!? He says "GOOD GRIEF" so much better than I do.)

Steadfast 06-14-2007 04:08 PM
And growing all the time... :IAM

SDG 06-14-2007 04:09 PM
I love theatrics.

Steadfast 06-14-2007 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea (Post 155505)
I love theatrics.
Happy to oblige you, Spock.

revrandy 06-14-2007 04:11 PM
It is depressing...okay..happy threads!!!

Sacerdotal 06-14-2007 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 155507)
It is depressing...okay..happy threads!!!
I agree.

Pragmatist 06-14-2007 04:13 PM
Start some good threads, then. :)

Sandra 06-14-2007 04:13 PM
So nothing negative about the UPC is permitted.... I understand now.

Rico 06-14-2007 04:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 155501)
I know everyone's opening page will be different depending on how long it's been since they logged on but today I made a sad observation... on the front page when I logged on I found that 8 of the front 25 threads were either slamming the UPC or being used to disregard traditional Apostolic views of righteousness.

I find that incredibly sad. We have a good forum with a grand array of distinct views but, as much as I hate to say it, some of it is more antiApostolic than Apostolic.

Let's change direction! How about some real threads of substance besides the grande old 'bread and butter' "I went to a UPC Church and met Count Dracula!" / "How to whack your hair off in 36 simple steps and still feel good about it" / "Will shacking up with someone in an act of Adultery really send you to Hell if you repent daily?" type of stuff.

GOOD GRIEF!

(Where's Charlie Brown when you need him?!? He says "GOOD GRIEF" so much better than I do.)
Ah quit yer whining about people whining about things people whine about when they whine!! :girlpopcorn

Steadfast 06-14-2007 04:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra (Post 155514)
So nothing negative about the UPC is permitted.... I understand now.
Not on the level it once was I hope.

revrandy 06-14-2007 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra (Post 155514)
So nothing negative about the UPC is permitted.... I understand now.
Sorry to disrupt your "happy" place.....:killinme:killinme

Sandra 06-14-2007 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 155516)
Not on the level it once was I hope.
I understand clearly.

Subdued 06-14-2007 04:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rico (Post 155515)
Ah quit yer whining about people whining about things people whine about when they whine!! :girlpopcorn
You have such a way with words! :lol

Sandra 06-14-2007 04:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 155517)
Sorry to disrupt your "happy" place.....:killinme:killinme
I haven't been bashing anything or anybody rev.

Sacerdotal 06-14-2007 04:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra (Post 155525)
I haven't been bashing anything or anybody rev.
It seems to appear that they are thankful for that. Thanks!

revrandy 06-14-2007 04:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra (Post 155525)
I haven't been bashing anything or anybody rev.
I know... You've been a beacon lately... Wasup wit Dat???



btw...Heaven called... and said ..your halo was fixed.....:haloplug


they'd like there loaner halo back!! :killinme

CC1 06-14-2007 04:23 PM
Steadfast,

As I mentioned the other day when Elder Epley started a similar thread if the conservatives and ultra cons would show back up and start some threads of their own there would not be this imbalance.

Sandra 06-14-2007 04:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 155536)
I know... You've been a beacon lately... Wasup wit Dat???



btw...Heaven called... and said ..your halo was fixed.....:haloplug


they'd like there loaner halo back!! :killinme
been to busy elsewhere to even post here. 15 places this month, I am wiped out. In raleigh tonight, about to go sing.

Sandra 06-14-2007 04:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sacerdotal (Post 155533)
It seems to appear that they are thankful for that. Thanks!
lol

BoredOutOfMyMind 06-14-2007 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 155553)
Steadfast,

As I mentioned the other day when Elder Epley started a similar thread if the conservatives and ultra cons would show back up and start some threads of their own there would not be this imbalance.
Most of them are off for the summer Camp Meeting schedule.

:preach

revrandy 06-14-2007 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra (Post 155556)
been to busy elsewhere to even post here. 15 places this month, I am wiped out. In raleigh tonight, about to go sing.
Tell the Godairs we all said hello!!




:haloplug

Steadfast 06-14-2007 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CC1 (Post 155553)
Steadfast,

As I mentioned the other day when Elder Epley started a similar thread if the conservatives and ultra cons would show back up and start some threads of their own there would not be this imbalance.

Sorry, CC1... haven't been here much lately. BUT, I agree with you. I just hope any temporary imbalances (in either direction) don't make the other end of the spectrum bail out.

When I got on and saw 8 of them on the top page it just kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Heaven knows what newcomers think.

Gonna sit back now and watch the show... :girlpopcorn

Sandra 06-14-2007 04:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by revrandy (Post 155564)
Tell the Godairs we all said hello!!




:haloplug
lol... I am with the Church of God in Christ fok.

Sandra 06-14-2007 04:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 155569)

Sorry, CC1... haven't been here much lately. BUT, I agree with you. I just hope any temporary imbalances (in either direction) don't make the other end of the spectrum bail out.

When I got on and saw 8 of them on the top page it just kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth. Heaven knows what newcomers think.

Gonna sit back now and watch the show... :girlpopcorn
Do you have cable??:killinme:killinme:killinme:killinme

berkeley 06-14-2007 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra (Post 155574)
Do you have cable??:killinme:killinme:killinme:killinme
DIRECTV :)

Sandra 06-14-2007 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Berkeley (Post 155576)
DIRECTV :)
wonderful!!

Steadfast 06-14-2007 04:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra (Post 155574)
Do you have cable??:killinme:killinme:killinme:killinme
Let's just say I've never LIED on my Affirmation Statement!








:sly

Sandra 06-14-2007 04:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 155579)
Let's just say I've never LIED on my Affirmation Statement!








:sly

Good for you, because I know may who did! :girlpopcorn

Newman 06-14-2007 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 155501)
I know everyone's opening page will be different depending on how long it's been since they logged on but today I made a sad observation... on the front page when I logged on I found that 8 of the front 25 threads were either slamming the UPC or being used to disregard traditional Apostolic views of righteousness.
I find that incredibly sad. We have a good forum with a grand array of distinct views but, as much as I hate to say it, some of it is more antiApostolic than Apostolic.

Let's change direction! How about some real threads of substance besides the grande old 'bread and butter' "I went to a UPC Church and met Count Dracula!" / "How to whack your hair off in 36 simple steps and still feel good about it" / "Will shacking up with someone in an act of Adultery really send you to Hell if you repent daily?" type of stuff.

GOOD GRIEF!

(Where's Charlie Brown when you need him?!? He says "GOOD GRIEF" so much better than I do.)
Steadfast- Are you speaking as an owner?

Standard threads have always been a part of freedom to speak on these forums and as you may have noticed over 90% of voters didn't see the pants on women issue as a heaven or hell issue.

Consequently, I don't believe that standard threads are as Anti-Apostolic as some would like to think they are.

I object to linking divergent views of standards with anti-Apostolic threads and willful sin threads. I further object to characterizing standards as "traditional views of righteouness" as if all who hold a different view of standards are unrighteousness. :cool:

Hoovie 06-14-2007 04:46 PM
These Affirmation Statements..... are they about individuals or families?? :)

Sandra 06-14-2007 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newman (Post 155599)
Steadfast- Are you speaking as an owner?

Standard threads have always been a part of freedom to speak on these forums and as you may have noticed over 90% of voters didn't see the pants on women issue as a heaven or hell issue.

Consequently, I don't believe that standard threads are as Anti-Apostolic as some would like to think they are.

I object to linking divergent views of standards with anti-Apostolic threads and willful sin threads. I further object to characterizing standards as "traditional views of righteouness" as if all who hold a different view of standards are unrighteousness. :cool:
Owner... .........I thought that was a secret.:D

berkeley 06-14-2007 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newman (Post 155599)
Steadfast- Are you speaking as an owner?

Standard threads have always been a part of freedom to speak on these forums and as you may have noticed over 90% of voters didn't see the pants on women issue as a heaven or hell issue.

Consequently, I don't believe that standard threads are as Anti-Apostolic as some would like to think they are.

I object to linking divergent views of standards with anti-Apostolic threads and willful sin threads. I further object to characterizing standards as "traditional views of righteouness" as if all who hold a different view of standards are unrighteousness. :cool:
:girlpopcorn

Steadfast 06-14-2007 04:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newman (Post 155599)
Steadfast- Are you speaking as an owner?

Standard threads have always been a part of freedom to speak on these forums and as you may have noticed over 90% of voters didn't see the pants on women issue as a heaven or hell issue.

Consequently, I don't believe that standard threads are as Anti-Apostolic as some would like to think they are.

I object to linking divergent views of standards with anti-Apostolic threads and willful sin threads. I further object to characterizing standards as "traditional views of righteouness" as if all who hold a different view of standards are unrighteousness. :cool:
I'm obviously not speaking as an 'owner' but as an Apostolic. The traditional views of righteousness included what some call 'outward standards'. I'm not against discussion of most subjects but I find it amazing that most every subject ends up in a 'Let's cut the UPC down while we're here' mentality.

Miss Newman, I'm on this forum more than the traditional 'preacher' forum because I actually enjoy seeing different views discussed. Discussed is the key word there... something you're very good at. However, we have some that are completely satisfied to say, "It's that nasty ole' UPC's fault".

That is what I'm against.

Newman 06-14-2007 04:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra (Post 155603)
Owner... .........I thought that was a secret.:D
Pure speculation.... Is that a confirmation? :cool:

Steadfast 06-14-2007 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newman (Post 155611)
Pure speculation.... Is that a confirmation? :cool:
Speculation is a good word... :poloroid

Subdued 06-14-2007 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newman (Post 155599)
Steadfast- Are you speaking as an owner?

Standard threads have always been a part of freedom to speak on these forums and as you may have noticed over 90% of voters didn't see the pants on women issue as a heaven or hell issue.

Consequently, I don't believe that standard threads are as Anti-Apostolic as some would like to think they are.

I object to linking divergent views of standards with anti-Apostolic threads and willful sin threads. I further object to characterizing standards as "traditional views of righteouness" as if all who hold a different view of standards are unrighteousness. :cool:
I completely agree and find it offensive that those who hold a different view of traditions are being categorized as unrighteous.

Also, It appears to me that most who post here (or at least those who voted on the church-going thread) are Apostolic or UPC. I don't see many posting who are "antiApostolic." Unless "Steadfast" is saying that he thinks those who do not stick to traditions are "antiApostolic," (to which I disagree).

berkeley 06-14-2007 04:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newman (Post 155611)
Pure speculation.... Is that a confirmation? :cool:
Let's not go there.

Malvaro 06-14-2007 04:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandra (Post 155514)
So nothing negative about the UPC is permitted.... I understand now.
and anything negative about TBN...??? :D

Newman 06-14-2007 05:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steadfast (Post 155610)
I'm obviously not speaking as an 'owner' but as an Apostolic. The traditional views of righteousness included what some call 'outward standards'. I'm not against discussion of most subjects but I find it amazing that most every subject ends up in a 'Let's cut the UPC down while we're here' mentality.

Miss Newman, I'm on this forum more than the traditional 'preacher' forum because I actually enjoy seeing different views discussed. Discussed is the key word there... something you're very good at. However, we have some that are completely satisfied to say, "It's that nasty ole' UPC's fault".

That is what I'm against.
Steadfast- I find "Miss" offensive because I believe (right or wrong) that it implies that one is not accepted as member of the body of Christ. But hey! Truth spoken in love is more desirable from my point of view than hypocrissy.

The forum ebbs and flows. Bro. Epley can not be expected to hold the fort all by himself. Send in the reinforcements! It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness. :cool:

BoredOutOfMyMind 06-14-2007 05:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Newman (Post 155599)
Steadfast- Are you speaking as an owner?

Standard threads have always been a part of freedom to speak on these forums and as you may have noticed over 90% of voters didn't see the pants on women issue as a heaven or hell issue.

Consequently, I don't believe that standard threads are as Anti-Apostolic as some would like to think they are.

I object to linking divergent views of standards with anti-Apostolic threads and willful sin threads. I further object to characterizing standards as "traditional views of righteouness" as if all who hold a different view of standards are unrighteousness. :cool:
What do $400 lobsters have to do with standards?!? What do Charismatic Celebrites have to do with standards? Why are we all giddy when someone leaves a UPC church?

Ownership has no bearing on the degrade of topics recently.

90% of WHAT voters- How many voted. This is not 90% of Pentecost. Surely you are much smarter than to quote bad poll percentage as fact. Or do you do so simply to build your side only?
:poloroid


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