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Originalist 04-05-2016 09:16 AM

Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Cruz's big 10 point lead is evaporating. Some polls show his lead cut in half since Mar 30. ARG now has Trump surging to a 10 point lead.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mary-3763.html

Pressing-On 04-05-2016 11:00 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
The ARG is a terrible poll. They were way off in 2012 and this current poll is showing 40% non-republicans. I'm not saying that I don't have any concern being that the WI primary is not a closed primary. We are seeing Democrats crossing over to vote for Trump only to flip to Hillary at the General. Being Trump's favorability is 10% worse than Hillary, it stands to reason they want Trump to be the nominee.

Scott Pitta 04-05-2016 01:30 PM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Being a resident of Wisconsin, I would not vote for Trump for any office.

n david 04-05-2016 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1429059)
Being a resident of Wisconsin, I would not vote for Trump for any office.

I bet you voted for Walker as a write-in. :lol

Scott Pitta 04-05-2016 04:02 PM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
I really don't know who I will vote for. It is an ongoing discussion in our home. Since we are partyless, elections are more interesting.

One odd outcome of the Walker administration is the awareness that the tribes are more trustworthy to nontrivial members than the state.

n david 04-05-2016 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta (Post 1429069)
I really don't know who I will vote for. It is an ongoing discussion in our home. Since we are partyless, elections are more interesting.

One odd outcome of the Walker administration is the awareness that the tribes are more trustworthy to nontrivial members than the state.

Not much time left to vote today! Vote, man, vote!

[Disclaimer: Your vote means nothing and is just allowed to make you feel as though you're important to the process. Rothschilds, Bilderberg and Diebold have already spoken. The next President is.....Joe Biden.]

Scott Pitta 04-05-2016 05:50 PM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
We voted. Voting is healthy for democracy.

Pressing-On 04-05-2016 07:29 PM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1429035)
Cruz's big 10 point lead is evaporating. Some polls show his lead cut in half since Mar 30. ARG now has Trump surging to a 10 point lead.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...mary-3763.html

Oops...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfUnTl4XIAAfd_x.jpg

n david 04-05-2016 08:02 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Hahahaha

Yeah, oops.


Attachment 5107

With 37% reporting:

Cruz: 52.6%
Drumpf: 30.6%

Pressing-On 04-05-2016 10:02 PM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
All I can say is - WOW!


Robert Costa Verified account
‏@costareports

NEW: Trump campaign statement tonight

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfU0WeJWwAACw8z.jpg

n david 04-06-2016 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1429124)
All I can say is - WOW!

Robert Costa Verified account
?@costareports

NEW: Trump campaign statement tonight

Stay classy, Trump. What a sore loser.

Originalist 04-06-2016 04:35 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1429124)
All I can say is - WOW!


Robert Costa Verified account
‏@costareports

NEW: Trump campaign statement tonight

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfU0WeJWwAACw8z.jpg


With all the phony endorsements Ted as gotten from Bush types as of late, there probably is allot of truth to this statement.

n david 04-06-2016 07:31 AM

@andrewklavan: ""So unfair of @SenTedCruz to steal the nomination from @realDonaldTrump by winning!""

Pressing-On 04-06-2016 08:15 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1429143)
With all the phony endorsements Ted as gotten from Bush types as of late, there probably is allot of truth to this statement.

Very typical of Trump not to look inward to see why HE was solely responsible for his loss. Perhaps HE could start with HIS three position changes on abortion.

Remember, HE has never asked for forgiveness - never learning or accepting that HE must look inward.

I noticed that his wife came on stage, at his Wisconsin rally, and they pecked each other's cheeks. Contrast that with Ted Cruz taking Heidi in his arms and hugging her. Trump is used to using women, he isn't an affectionate person. He said, "Melanie loves her son." He didn't say, "Our son". A simple flawed candidate inside and out.

Remember when he accused Carson of having traits of a child molester? His excuse, "Well, he was winning!" As though that is a legitimate excuse.

Now he says that "Lyin' Ted" is working, so he continues with the repetition. Continues to "falsely" accuse Ted Cruz of illegal means to win. LOL!

All I can say is that I am glad he is NOT my candidate. He is a total embarrassment.

He wants this election served to him on a silver platter. He is nothing but a sore loser.

Pressing-On 04-06-2016 08:17 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1429144)
@andrewklavan: ""So unfair of @SenTedCruz to steal the nomination from @realDonaldTrump by winning!""

Donald Trump is a pathetic man. He is the most divisive candidate I have ever known. He stirs up anger and hate every day of his life.

Pressing-On 04-06-2016 08:18 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1429143)
With all the phony endorsements Ted as gotten from Bush types as of late, there probably is allot of truth to this statement.

As to the "Bush types of late" - The Establishment is finally waking up that a true conservative can win the White House. They've decided to stop fighting Ted and get behind him.

Originalist 04-06-2016 08:57 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1429169)
As to the "Bush types of late" - The Establishment is finally waking up that a true conservative can win the White House. They've decided to stop fighting Ted and get behind him.

Then they must feel Cruz is no threat to their lifestyle.

aegsm76 04-06-2016 08:58 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1429168)
Donald Trump is a pathetic man. He is the most divisive candidate I have ever known. He stirs up anger and hate every day of his life.

PO - Lol. You are so over the top with your dislike of Trump!

Pressing-On 04-06-2016 09:11 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1429179)
Then they must feel Cruz is no threat to their lifestyle.

No, the real issue is that as Trump progresses with his campaign, he gets worse. You can find comments from me, on this very forum, clearly stating that I was not against Trump in the beginning. He has gone south with his violence, rudeness and dishonesty. He is no longer an option of any kind for our good country.

Pressing-On 04-06-2016 09:14 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1429180)
PO - Lol. You are so over the top with your dislike of Trump!

You are not seeing the links I am getting concerning this man. He is a truly alarming person. The man is a bully - a Nationalist who will turn Dictator. We don't need him.

Pressing-On 04-06-2016 09:18 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
The worst development with Trump's campaign is that they are priming supporters to riot and to hunt down delegates. Trump's camp is akin to union mob bosses angling for bigger seat at negotiation table.

deacon blues 04-06-2016 09:23 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Happy Cruz won last night. Wish Kasich would get out and Rubio commit his delegates to TC

Pressing-On 04-06-2016 09:46 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Donald Trump Accuses Ted Cruz Of Committing A Felony…Again

How many times does a Presidential candidate get to accuse his rivals (in his own party) of committing federal felonies and not face retribution for it, particularly from the GOP?

How many chances does he get to do this before he pays some kind of price?

Sooner or later, Reince Priebus is going to have to do something. This cannot go unanswered.

http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/20...-felony-again/

n david 04-06-2016 09:48 AM

Funny, the only one breaking campaign rules yesterday was Trump by showing up at a polling place.

Pressing-On 04-06-2016 09:51 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1429186)
Happy Cruz won last night. Wish Kasich would get out and Rubio commit his delegates to TC

Rubio has MORE delegates than Kasich! Kasich is running as a spoiler, no doubt. He denies Ted getting well over 50% is many of the states. He wants to be considered at an Open Convention. Reince Preibus didn't deny Kaisch could be chosen. He said, "Any of the THREE running..."

Now, Preibus says that being Kasich hasn't suspended, he can't exclude him in his statement, which is plausible. But, wouldn't that be a kick in the head if the delegates broke and voted for Kasich? LOL!

Have to come back for an edit - Just heard Brent Bozell say that if this contest goes to a Contested Convention is will be because of Kasich and that is why Kasich will not get a vote. He will be blamed for this mess. Good on Bozell!

n david 04-06-2016 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1429168)
Donald Trump is a pathetic man. He is the most divisive candidate I have ever known. He stirs up anger and hate every day of his life.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1429180)
PO - Lol. You are so over the top with your dislike of Trump!

State where she's wrong in that post.

Trump IS the most divisive candidate in my lifetime. obama has been the most divisive President, but his campaign was full of hope and change. Trump has started off badly already.

Trump has stirred up anger and hate. Lest you forget:
https://youtu.be/2yhZZwVAqMg

His rhetoric is angry and he has promoted violence against anyone who doesn't share his views.

His retweet of the picture of Heidi Cruz was pathetic, as was his insult claiming he thought it was a good picture of her.

Pressing-On 04-06-2016 09:56 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1429193)
Funny, the only one breaking campaign rules yesterday was Trump by showing up at a polling place.

Exactly! The man is a bigger than life charlatan. And it is one of the reason's I say he has the propensity to be a dictator. He has already stated he doesn't care about the rules. Seriously, Hillary is less scary than Trump.

aegsm76 04-06-2016 10:29 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
I will respectfully disagree.
It is his opponents who have the hate and anger.
Witness this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOkybuCXX0
How has Trump stirred up hate and anger?
Mostly by telling the truth.
That is what led to his surge and his personal attacks are now leading to his downfall.

Build a wall on the border to stop illegal immigration.
Those who oppose it are violent in their opposition.

Stop bringing in "Syrian" refugees.
Those who oppose it are violent in their opposition.

I guess that Christians in the Middle East are to blame for attacks on them, as well.
Since they are the reason that those opposing them are attacking.

Pressing-On 04-06-2016 10:43 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1429201)
I will respectfully disagree.
It is his opponents who have the hate and anger.
.

Look, the Trump campaign is surrounded by violence. These people ARE NOT acting in this manner at ANY OTHER candidate's rallies. Trump exudes violence. You simply cannot defend Trump when he says that he will pay legal fees for the defense of people who physically attack others at his rallies!!!!! :smack

And this is the thing, I totally agree with Steve Deace - "Burning it down used to sound so good. Now that the pyre has been lit, though, the flames that we stare into is merely those of self-immolation."

n david 04-06-2016 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1429201)
I will respectfully disagree.
It is his opponents who have the hate and anger.
Witness this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeOkybuCXX0

That was some heavy editing at the beginning with the skateboarder. I'd like to see the unedited version because I would bet there was some provocation by the social experimenter to set him off.

I watched until he got on the side of the road and whined about people flipping him off.

At least he wasn't sucker punched...

https://youtu.be/Pq1jFA38xLA
https://youtu.be/TtAJDikkfqM

I don't believe most social experiment types like this guy. This video is like the majority out there where people are minding their own business and these clowns show up provoking them into some confrontation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1429201)
How has Trump stirred up hate and anger?
Mostly by telling the truth.
That is what led to his surge and his personal attacks are now leading to his downfall.

Telling the truth? Ha!

https://youtu.be/2yhZZwVAqMg

Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1429201)
I guess that Christians in the Middle East are to blame for attacks on them, as well.
Since they are the reason that those opposing them are attacking.

Not close to being the same.

aegsm76 04-06-2016 11:37 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1429203)
Look, the Trump campaign is surrounded by violence. These people ARE NOT acting in this manner at ANY OTHER candidate's rallies. Trump exudes violence. You simply cannot defend Trump when he says that he will pay legal fees for the defense of people who physically attack others at his rallies!!!!! :smack

And this is the thing, I totally agree with Steve Deace - "Burning it down used to sound so good. Now that the pyre has been lit, though, the flames that we stare into is merely those of self-immolation."

Who are "these people"?
Are you referring to Trump supporters?
Or those who come to Trump rallies to protest Trump?
Can you give me a link where Trump states what you say?
The one I remember is where he said something about people throwing tomatoes.
Ahhh Steve Deace, the same guy that threatened to castrate himself and used a quite vulgar term in reference to Carly...

Now, as I have stated before, I support Cruz. However my support is realistic and not through Cruz colored glasses.
Blaming Trump for people coming to his rallies and attempting to disrupt them is crazy.
And blaming some of his supporters for their reactions to those disrupters is crazy.

n david 04-06-2016 11:48 AM

I missed this one! Incredible.

"""I got a little notice from security guys," Trump said at the afternoon rally in Cedar Rapids. "They said, Mr. Trump, there may be somebody with tomatoes in the audience." The billionaire real estate mogul then instructed attendees on what to do if they noticed anyone about to toss the produce.

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the ........ out of them, would you? Just knock the hell-.." Trump said, before offering to pay to defend them in the court system.

"I will pay any legal fees. I promise, I promise," Trump said"""

https://youtu.be/p5s9kpPZBbg



Here's time I remember of Trump saying he'll pay legal fees:

"""Mr. Trump has regularly said at his rallies that his supporters should actively silence protesters, and he has promised to pay their legal fees if they become too aggressive. Asked if he planned to keep that promise for Mr. McGraw, Mr. Trump said that he did.

"I've actually instructed my people to look into it, yes," Mr. Trump said."""
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/firs...used-attacker/

KWSS1976 04-06-2016 01:42 PM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
The Party does not like Cruz just as much mabey more then Trump,so when Cruz goes to the Convention both will be dumped so get ready,Im a Trump person but can still see the writing on the wall for both of them so sorry Cruzers your votes want count either..Jeb and Lindsey Graham and the others that have backed Cruz will dump him at the Convention. Trump could go in with 1237 and they will still find a way to take it from him..Cruz want even be close

n david 04-06-2016 01:46 PM

Reeding that, gave. Me a hedack.

Esaias 04-06-2016 08:14 PM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KWSS1976 (Post 1429220)
The Party does not like Cruz just as much mabey more then Trump,so when Cruz goes to the Convention both will be dumped so get ready,Im a Trump person but can still see the writing on the wall for both of them so sorry Cruzers your votes want count either..Jeb and Lindsey Graham and the others that have backed Cruz will dump him at the Convention. Trump could go in with 1237 and they will still find a way to take it from him..Cruz want even be close

Yeah, that's why the GOP establishment ruling class of neocon nitwits are embracing Cruz and dumping money into his campaign and using the full weight of the party for his benefit (as in Wisconsin).

Cruz is their man to force a brokered convention so they can put one of their own in as nominee. And it might even be Cruz?! Who knows? Who cares? They are all slimey politicians who put on a show but in reality are destroying America.

deacon blues 04-06-2016 09:52 PM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1429221)
Reeding that, gave. Me a hedack.

Funny

Pressing-On 04-07-2016 09:27 AM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1429248)
Yeah, that's why the GOP establishment ruling class of neocon nitwits are embracing Cruz and dumping money into his campaign and using the full weight of the party for his benefit (as in Wisconsin).

Cruz is their man to force a brokered convention so they can put one of their own in as nominee. And it might even be Cruz?! Who knows? Who cares? They are all slimey politicians who put on a show but in reality are destroying America.

You might want to look at John Kasich as the reason we will go to a Contested Convention. If he was out, having only WON ONE state, this thing would be wrapping up nicely.

And because of Gov. Scott Walker's statement, I don't see the Establishment using Ted Cruz. They came to him because they can't win against him now.

"The bottom line is I am a hundred percent behind Ted Cruz, I didn’t come out against anybody I came out with Ted. I put the whole power of my endorsement, my organization, all my supporters behind making a very clear case that Ted Cruz wasn’t a default choice for me he was the choice for me. I’m going to support him not only here in the primary, I’m going to support him all the way through the convention." - Gov. Scott Walker

Esaias 04-07-2016 12:44 PM

Re: Late Trump surge in Wisconsin
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1429350)
You might want to look at John Kasich as the reason we will go to a Contested Convention. If he was out, having only WON ONE state, this thing would be wrapping up nicely.

Kasich is another phony neocon who's job is to force a brokered convention.
Quote:

And because of Gov. Scott Walker's statement, I don't see the Establishment using Ted Cruz. They came to him because they can't win against him now.
Which means they like him more than they like Trump. Which tells us all something...

Quote:

"The bottom line is I am a hundred percent behind Ted Cruz, I didn’t come out against anybody I came out with Ted. I put the whole power of my endorsement, my organization, all my supporters behind making a very clear case that Ted Cruz wasn’t a default choice for me he was the choice for me. I’m going to support him not only here in the primary, I’m going to support him all the way through the convention." - Gov. Scott Walker
Yeah, good old boy Walker:

http://www.redstate.com/diary/freedo...-scott-walker/

The Dead Elephant party seems to be on a mission to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory... every time, ALL the time. Life in the fast lane...!


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