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Originalist 05-26-2016 07:54 PM

"Islamization of Europe a Good Thing"
 
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...299673,00.html

Why does this Jew hate Europeans?

Why do the majority of European and American Jews seem to favor mass 3rd world immigration for the USA and Europe but agree with Israel's strict "Jewish purity" laws?

Come to think of it, why are the vast majority of Jews in America and Europe so left-wing?

Why were Jews so over represented early on in the Communist ranks in Russia?


I believe the restoration of Israel was God ordained and I support the Jewish STATE. But why should I regard Jews in general as friendly to western interests and ideals?

Read the prophets and see what God had to say about his own people and the abominations they were committing. Look at Jewish history since 70A.D.

God loves Jew and Gentile alike. So why all the hand wringing and obsession by many Christians over the Jews?

And you who are almost picking yourself up off of the floor after having read this...what makes you react that way?

Praxeas 05-27-2016 12:09 AM

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Israel is as immodest as any, they even have gay pride parades. He should want israel to be Islamiwhatever

Originalist 05-27-2016 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1435647)
Israel is as immodest as any, they even have gay pride parades. He should want israel to be Islamiwhatever

As I stated, I support the Jewish State. I don't see much of this coming from Israel. Rather it seems to be Jews outside of Israel living abroad that overwhelmingly embrace mass 3rd world immigration to Europe but applaud Israel's racial purity laws.

aegsm76 05-27-2016 08:36 AM

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It is a great mystery as to why Jews seem to be overwhelmingly liberal.
I have to put it down to some kind of residual effect of having their eyes blinded.

Fionn mac Cumh 05-27-2016 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1435660)
As I stated, I support the Jewish State. I don't see much of this coming from Israel. Rather it seems to be Jews outside of Israel living abroad that overwhelmingly embrace mass 3rd world immigration to Europe but applaud Israel's racial purity laws.

Maybe they are encouraging them to go to Europe as to avoid them coming to Israel?

Esaias 05-27-2016 11:00 AM

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You support the "state" but wonder why Jews seem to almost universally support anything and everything antichristian and anti-American?

USS Liberty?

Israel is one of the major centers for human trafficking (kids sold as sex slaves). Israel is considered one of the best places for sodomites to vacation. Israel routinely supports radical Islamic terrorist groups in order to create regional instability. Israel is "the homeland" for all these "anti western Jews" you complain about.

It's a Jewish thing, rooted in Talmudic world views shared by most Jews (whether religious or secular).

aegsm76 05-27-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1435696)

Israel is one of the major centers for human trafficking (kids sold as sex slaves). Israel is considered one of the best places for sodomites to vacation.

Any links to support these assertions?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/thousan...l-study-finds/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_...king_in_Israel

Praxeas 05-28-2016 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1435660)
As I stated, I support the Jewish State. I don't see much of this coming from Israel. Rather it seems to be Jews outside of Israel living abroad that overwhelmingly embrace mass 3rd world immigration to Europe but applaud Israel's racial purity laws.

Im talking about your link, the guy lives in the West Bank

"Rabbi Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement of Efrat, believes that the Islamization of Europe is actually a good thing."

Originalist 05-28-2016 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Praxeas (Post 1435721)
Im talking about your link, the guy lives in the West Bank

"Rabbi Baruch Efrati, a yeshiva head and community rabbi in the West Bank settlement of Efrat, believes that the Islamization of Europe is actually a good thing."

Interesting. So what does this clown think of the sin in his own country?

shazeep 05-28-2016 09:10 AM

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why does he have to be a clown?

Originalist 05-28-2016 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1435745)
why does he have to be a clown?

He doesn't have to be one. He decided to be one.

What he should ask himself is why, as a group, his people seem to become disliked and deported by their host countries when they were at first welcomed. That is a fair question that most seem afraid to ask.

Praxeas 05-29-2016 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1435726)
Interesting. So what does this clown think of the sin in his own country?

Thats what I want to know too

Praxeas 05-29-2016 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1435745)
why does he have to be a clown?

Maybe he's Polka musician, dunno

Jito463 05-29-2016 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1435696)
Israel is one of the major centers for human trafficking (kids sold as sex slaves). Israel is considered one of the best places for sodomites to vacation.

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Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1435703)
Any links to support these assertions?

http://www.timesofisrael.com/thousan...l-study-finds/

From the link:

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It relied on secondary sources for its study, especially reports from media, NGOs, and governments. It also used local surveys and interviews.
It's hard to justify those numbers as accurate, when their sources are so ill-defined.

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Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1435703)

Frankly, I take anything from a wikipedia page, with a *MASSIVE* grain of salt. Anyone from anywhere, can come along and edit the page to say whatever they want.

I'm not saying it's wrong, just that I'd prefer something more concrete. There's no way to know how accurate that information is. It could be even more than that, or it could be far less.

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1435696)
Israel routinely supports radical Islamic terrorist groups in order to create regional instability.

If it means keeping their neighbors disorganized, so they can't attack Israel, do you blame them? Twice, they were attacked, in a planned attempt to wipe them and their country from the face of the planet. I can understand if they try to sow discord and disharmony in their neighboring countries.

Esaias 05-30-2016 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jito463 (Post 1435873)
If it means keeping their neighbors disorganized, so they can't attack Israel, do you blame them? Twice, they were attacked, in a planned attempt to wipe them and their country from the face of the planet. I can understand if they try to sow discord and disharmony in their neighboring countries.

They can do whatever they feel is in their best interests. The problem is we the American people are routinely lied to about the situation(s) over there in order to pacify us in order to plunder our nation's wealth and resources for Somebody Else's benefit.

We are in a 'global war on terror(ism)', but the terrorists are largely Israeli-Saudi-American creations, wrecking havoc in order to justify redirecting our Defense budget and creating a 'felt need for Homeland Security' with all the bloated budgeting that goes with that.

The love of money is indeed the root of all evil.

Antipas 05-31-2016 07:17 AM

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So much division and bloodshed between people who say that they know God. Those who have fallen prey to the illusion of division suffer and prove their own internal pain through manifesting hatred, war, and strife towards others. In these things they prove that they do not know God.

shazeep 05-31-2016 07:28 AM

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thank you

Esaias 05-31-2016 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Antipas (Post 1436027)
So much division and bloodshed between people who say that they know God. Those who have fallen prey to the illusion of division suffer and prove their own internal pain through manifesting hatred, war, and strife towards others. In these things they prove that they do not know God.

Says who?

FlamingZword 05-31-2016 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Antipas (Post 1436027)
So much division and bloodshed between people who say that they know God. Those who have fallen prey to the illusion of division suffer and prove their own internal pain through manifesting hatred, war, and strife towards others. In these things they prove that they do not know God.

So I suppose you know God then?

Christianity is quite divisive, Jesus said "No one comes to the father, but through me" and I actually happen to believe him.

Only Christianity is true, deal with it. :D

shazeep 05-31-2016 01:00 PM

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i'm not sure the "the Word is a sword, that divides" means to convey the sense of divisiveness i get from your statement about Christianity; perhaps of the Spanish Inquisition stripe, yes.

I'm kind of surprised that you guys find something in Antipas' post to cause these reactions, are we dealing with fallout from old posts or something? Is his statement not self-evident, or do you think he has no Scriptural basis for these statements?

i mean, is it even possible to be manifesting hatred, war, and strife towards others while simultaneously showing some knowledge of God? Is that the statement that you have issue with, too, FZ, or something else?

Esaias 05-31-2016 02:42 PM

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"you guys...these reactions..."

All I did was ask "Who says so?"

shazeep 05-31-2016 02:49 PM

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okay, my apologies, it just read as being resistive to the idea i guess.

Esaias 05-31-2016 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep (Post 1436125)
okay, my apologies, it just read as being resistive to the idea i guess.

Not resistive, I am asking Antipas for his epistemology.


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