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Jermyn Davidson 05-30-2016 11:36 AM

Jan Crouch Stroke
 
Is there anyone here that has connections to her or to her family?

Is her health holding up?

I thought she had some sort of connection, possibly through extended family members, to Oneness Pentecostals.

Jermyn Davidson 05-30-2016 11:43 AM

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"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and the God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort those who ate in any trouble, with the comfort with we ourselves are comforted by God."

II Corinthians 1:3-4

Steve Epley 05-30-2016 03:41 PM

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Her roots were AG.

houston 05-30-2016 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1435969)
Her roots were AG.

And now her roots are pink.

houston 05-30-2016 04:24 PM

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Scary place for her to be right now. I hope she repents!

Evang.Benincasa 05-30-2016 06:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1435949)
Is there anyone here that has connections to her or to her family?

Is her health holding up?

I thought she had some sort of connection, possibly through extended family members, to Oneness Pentecostals.

You just don't get it.

n david 05-30-2016 06:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1435970)
And now her roots are pink.

:lol

FlamingZword 05-30-2016 09:14 PM

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God in his infinite mercy might be giving her a time to get herself right.
Some people do not get a warning or last chance.

houston 05-30-2016 11:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlamingZword (Post 1435987)
God in his infinite mercy might be giving her a time to get herself right.
Some people do not get a warning or last chance.

I think He warned her when she had cancer and Benny Hinn didn't heal her.

houston 05-30-2016 11:27 PM

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When there is a update you eill be able to find it here

http://www.tbn.org/announcements/

houston 05-31-2016 05:27 AM

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Jan Crouch has passed from this life i to the next.

http://www.tbn.org/announcements/cro...der-jan-crouch

seguidordejesus 05-31-2016 07:39 AM

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I bet she's giving the Holy Spirit fashion advice right now, hallaluyer!

Fionn mac Cumh 05-31-2016 11:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1435971)
Scary place for her to be right now. I hope she repents!

Who are you to say she isnt right with GOD?

deacon blues 05-31-2016 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh (Post 1436070)
Who are you to say she isnt right with GOD?

FMC I thought the same thing reading through this thread. It's disturbing the level of self righteousness and pride demonstrated in Christian circles. God have mercy on us all.

Jermyn Davidson 05-31-2016 12:20 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1435979)
You just don't get it.

Feel free to, publicly or privately, explain what you are talking about.

Sister Alvear 05-31-2016 12:38 PM

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Just leave her where she is...In the hands of a just God....Nothing we say or do will change anything about the way God feels about her.

And no...I never saw her program or whatever....just saw clips a few times...on youtube...however I sure am glad I do not have to judge the world....that is a job for God...

She is gone....so leave her alone....Well, that is my opinion...I personally have no idea what she believed....never heard her....never read a book if she wrote any by her... However I cannot waste my time judging....

Fionn mac Cumh 05-31-2016 12:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear (Post 1436088)
Just leave her where she is...In the hands of a just God....Nothing we say or do will change anything about the way God feels about her.

And no...I never saw her program or whatever....just saw clips a few times...on youtube...however I sure am glad I do not have to judge the world....that is a job for God...

She is gone....so leave her alone....Well, that is my opinion...I personally have no idea what she believed....never heard her....never read a book if she wrote any by her... However I cannot waste my time judging....

Best attitude to have. They have done more to preach Jesus than most who claim to have the truth.

thephnxman 05-31-2016 09:52 PM

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"Let the dead bury the dead."

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2016 10:13 AM

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When you honestly think about it, the work they did, what she and her husband were able to accomplish with their lives for the Glory of God and the Gospel of Christ, all that can be said is WOW!

I mean, the two of them are the living examples of the scripture, "greater things you will do..."

They were more influential in spreading the Gospel of Christ than Saint Paul!

Just a married couple that had a vision for spreading the Gospel...

Modern day heroes of the faith!

houston 06-01-2016 10:18 AM

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Yep. That prosperity gospel. A mansion for Jan. A mansion for Paul. An RV for the dogs.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2016 10:22 AM

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Just think about ALL that the Lord has enabled, even ANOINTED this one couple to do!

Their works will truly live on.

houston 06-01-2016 10:32 AM

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Anointed is a misused word. Paul had homosexual affairs, Paul and Jan lived in separate mansions. They spread the prosperity gospel all over the world. It has taken root in places like Central and South America.
I have a coworker that is from Kenya. He is Pentecostal. He attends a church that is a denomination from Africa. The prosperity gospel is now being exported from third world countries.

consapente89 06-01-2016 10:56 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1436232)
When you honestly think about it, the work they did, what she and her husband were able to accomplish with their lives for the Glory of God and the Gospel of Christ, all that can be said is WOW!

I mean, the two of them are the living examples of the scripture, "greater things you will do..."

They were more influential in spreading the Gospel of Christ than Saint Paul!

Just a married couple that had a vision for spreading the Gospel...

Modern day heroes of the faith!

:smack

n david 06-01-2016 11:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1436232)
When you honestly think about it, the work they did, what she and her husband were able to accomplish with their lives for the Glory of God and the Gospel of Christ, all that can be said is WOW!

I mean, the two of them are the living examples of the scripture, "greater things you will do..."

They were more influential in spreading the Gospel of Christ than Saint Paul!

Just a married couple that had a vision for spreading the Gospel...

Modern day heroes of the faith!

No, just no.

Esaias 06-01-2016 11:10 AM

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JD's just trolling, I'm sure.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2016 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1436237)
Anointed is a misused word. Paul had homosexual affairs, Paul and Jan lived in separate mansions. They spread the prosperity gospel all over the world. It has taken root in places like Central and South America.
I have a coworker that is from Kenya. He is Pentecostal. He attends a church that is a denomination from Africa. The prosperity gospel is now being exported from third world countries.

I am not misusing the word in the context of the work that God chose Paul and Jan to do for the Glory of God and expansion of His Kingdom.

What is the proof of the multiplied homosexuality affairs of Paul Crouch?

Even if your accusations are true, the strength of God in Paul and Jan's lives was made perfect in their weaknesses.

I don't think they started out with the intent to spread a false gospel. They didn't coin the term, "Prosperity Gospel", their critics coined that term and RIGHTFULLY SO.

Still, to dismiss their mission and work because of prosperity gospel adherents would be to dismiss Saint Paul's work because of the false gospels that emerged in the same areas he evangelized.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2016 11:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1436253)
No, just no.

Yes just yes.

Esaias 06-01-2016 12:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1436266)
I am not misusing the word in the context of the work that God chose Paul and Jan to do for the Glory of God and expansion of His Kingdom.

What is the proof of the multiplied homosexuality affairs of Paul Crouch?

Even if your accusations are true, the strength of God in Paul and Jan's lives was made perfect in their weaknesses.

I don't think they started out with the intent to spread a false gospel. They didn't coin the term, "Prosperity Gospel", their critics coined that term and RIGHTFULLY SO.

Still, to dismiss their mission and work because of prosperity gospel adherents would be to dismiss Saint Paul's work because of the false gospels that emerged in the same areas he evangelized.

Paul the apostle wasn't putting those false teachers on air and recommending them to the churches.

houston 06-01-2016 12:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1436266)
Still, to dismiss their mission and work because of prosperity gospel adherents would be to dismiss Saint Paul's work because of the false gospels that emerged in the same areas he evangelized.


Not dismissing them because of adherents. Paul and Jan BELIEVED the prosperity gospel. Many (dare I say most) of those that broadcast on TBN endorsed heresy and false doctrine in some form.

consapente89 06-01-2016 12:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1436266)
I am not misusing the word in the context of the work that God chose Paul and Jan to do for the Glory of God and expansion of His Kingdom.

What is the proof of the multiplied homosexuality affairs of Paul Crouch?

Even if your accusations are true, the strength of God in Paul and Jan's lives was made perfect in their weaknesses.

I don't think they started out with the intent to spread a false gospel. They didn't coin the term, "Prosperity Gospel", their critics coined that term and RIGHTFULLY SO.

Still, to dismiss their mission and work because of prosperity gospel adherents would be to dismiss Saint Paul's work because of the false gospels that emerged in the same areas he evangelized.

:nah

unreal

thephnxman 06-01-2016 02:49 PM

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.
It's almost too hard to believe.

Most folks who call themselves "Christians" don't know
what is the "Gospel" . . . or what is "Pentecost"! But it
shouldn't be surprising: since they also don't seem to
know what is a Christian.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2016 03:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1436281)
:nah

unreal

Ok. Ya got me.

Truth is, I don't believe Paul Crouch practiced a life of sin.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2016 03:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1436272)
Paul the apostle wasn't putting those false teachers on air and recommending them to the churches.

Very good point.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2016 03:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by houston (Post 1436279)
Not dismissing them because of adherents. Paul and Jan BELIEVED the prosperity gospel. Many (dare I say most) of those that broadcast on TBN endorsed heresy and false doctrine in some form.

Really?
Most of them?
I am not sure this true.
Is there anything good you can say about what they accomplished?

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2016 03:18 PM

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Seriously folks.

Is there anything God-ordained about Paul and Jan Crouch-- their mission, their accomplishments, the spread of the Gospel to nations far out nations?

LOVE JESUS 06-01-2016 03:30 PM

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The gospel has reached many many people because of their dedication to spread the gospel. That is more than all of us on here put together. Jesus can come back sooner because they chose to spread the gospel instead of arguing and debating scripture. I don't agree with EVERYTHING that I have seen on TBN but then I am sure we wouldn't agree with everything that goes on in our churches either. Just my opinion.

thephnxman 06-01-2016 07:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1436308)
Seriously folks.
Is there anything God-ordained about Paul and Jan Crouch-- their mission, their accomplishments, the spread of the Gospel to nations far out nations?

What is the "gpspel" they preached?

It certainly was not the Gospel that Peter and Paul preached:
and it certainly was NOT the Gospel that the Lord Jesus taught
the apostles! The Crouch's taught Catholic salvation . . . that
a person must believe in God: as opposed to BELIEVING GOD!

Yes, I know. Some Pentecostals are that way.

Jermyn Davidson 06-01-2016 09:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thephnxman (Post 1436336)
What is the "gpspel" they preached?

It certainly was not the Gospel that Peter and Paul preached:
and it certainly was NOT the Gospel that the Lord Jesus taught
the apostles! The Crouch's taught Catholic salvation . . . that
a person must believe in God: as opposed to BELIEVING GOD!

Will you please elaborate?

Esaias 06-01-2016 10:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1436308)
Seriously folks.

Is there anything God-ordained about Paul and Jan Crouch-- their mission, their accomplishments, the spread of the Gospel to nations far out nations?

As critical as I am of TBN, I must moderate my criticism, because it was from watching Dwight Thompson and a few others on TBN that got me reading my Bible and eventually crying out to God to save my soul from the lake of fire.

So there is that...

houston 06-01-2016 11:52 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1436344)
As critical as I am of TBN, I must moderate my criticism, because it was from watching Dwight Thompson and a few others on TBN that got me reading my Bible and eventually crying out to God to save my soul from the lake of fire.

There is that. I viewed regularly my first 9 months after conversion.


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