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America has been overtaken by Communist ideology.


http://conservativeread.com/we-were-...taken-america/

"I want to share two lists with you. The first is a list that was entered into 1963 Congressional Record. The second is the 10 planks of The Communist Manifesto.

If you can’t see this happening in America, and a ton of progress being made, then I offer two potential explanations:

You are one of the “useful idiots” of communist teaching.
I am one of the “village idiots” that your Mama probably warned you about.

Some of these points will be open for debate and some will not. In some cases it is blatantly obvious that they have achieved their goals. It is even rumored that our own President has deep communist ties. You might want to check that out as well but I will withhold my opinion at this point. Let’s just lay it out and you can interpret it."

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What does that have to do with the kingdom of God?

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Both explanations can be considered correct. Most of us can
belong to one camp or the other.

We can make ourselves "...fools for Christ's sake...", or fools for
the sake of foolish men.!

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Everything! The Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Satan, and that of Man, interact, collide, and war with each other daily. All that pertains to the god of this world, and the carnal man filled with lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, constantly interferes with and hinders all that saints of the Most High attempt to be and do for the Lord.

Every country that was overthrown and became communist automatically became a closed country to missionary endeavors. Those Christians found within the borders, were and are severely persecuted, even unto death.

If the USA falls to full blown Communism, you, me, and every saint we know will automatically be in peril.

This doesn't mean that God is not sovereign, or that He has somehow lost control of the situation, but let us admit, in the granting of free will, God has permitted much in this world to happen, even if by just not intercepting any activity and making in stop/come to an end.

The USA is not special. As she continues to fall into greater and greater toxicity and rejection of God-ordained morality, the more and more God will give her up to her own lusts. Our culture, and the depths to which it sinks, will trip some seriously intense spiritual triggers.

Right now, no real hindrances or persecutions exist. But try going to North Korea to share the Good News and so, be a herald of the Kingdom of God. You won't make it out of the country alive, if you can even get in, in the first place.

How many millions of people in North Korea, Cuba, China, Laos, and Vietnam are never going to have a chance to hear about Jesus and receive TRUTH, simply because of the communist regimes put into place by revolutionaries like Mao, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, and etc.?

How many millions lived and died, never hearing a word about the Cross because men like Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev, Pol Pot, Ceausescu, and others, kept their citizens in spiritual darkness, by controlling them through government policy?

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Do you ever have conversations about hobbies, family, cooking, etc? What do they have to do with the Kingdom of God?

The real question is, what is spiritual about ignoring the destruction of western civilization?

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Exactly right.

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it's not like you're not being controlled by government policy now that's pretty godless :lol

i think the question about what this has to do with the kingdom is a relevant one. You cannot be both an ambassador of an unworldly kingdom and a participating citizen of a country; you will love one and hate the other, no matter what anyone else tells you.

i know this is a hard thing to believe, because you started on the pledge of allegiance in first grade, so it just seems natural. But you live in a fascist empire now, and you're worried about communism? I can't even do a good deed for the retired Pentecostal lady next door without her pulling her wallet out and insisting on some payment now, lol; i seriously doubt communism is a danger for an empire in decline.

i notice also that "communism" is always paired with "godless" before it is served to us, and i'll leave you to draw your own conclusions there, but you might at least suspect anyone married to fascism telling you that communists are godless, that's pretty much a pot/kettle scenario.

Russia has seen a huge resurgence in Christianity, for instance. I don't know if they are still communists, strictly speaking, but we have indications that China has a huge, committed Christian pop, and likely these other commie regimes do as well, even if they are more underground.

So you can gesticulate about what window dressing your country adopts if you like, it would be called something different from what it was anyway. Or by all means voice your concerns, and tell us what you suggest? Civil war? Voting harder?

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Very well put

One extremist will point out the flaws of his antagonist, and insinuate
that his ways are better. AND IT'S WORKING!

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This and VotiveSoul's response to Mizpeh's question are right on the money!

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i think it is a flawed frame; if Western Civilization was spiritual, it wouldn't be destroyed. If any part of it is spiritual, it will grow and not die. In worldly terms, Western Civilization is dominated by an empire in decline/decadence, and history has established what happens next in that case, and if there is nothing new under the sun then ours will go essentially the same way. Or by all means carry out your thought process to its logical conclusion and see what you are suggesting, if anything.

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So by your thinking "might makes right" and whoever overthrows western civiæization (commumists,Islam, Zionists) must be spiritual.

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not at all; i don't think human government can even be spiritual, and i think Western Civilization as we understand it has already been effectively overthrown, or at least we should not kid ourselves that we might somehow escape the fate of other empires, if one wants to hold an effective world view.

God did not give Israel a king because it was a good idea, but because it represented the will of the people; and God does not change. We spend a lot of time suggesting how others might find time for God in their lives, rather than pointing out that one might be better served to find time for their lives in God, and i wonder if this worry about what happens next is not just a culmination of God's solemn warning to us in 1Sam8, but if it is not maybe just examining what steps are being advocated here to stop this communist hoard would be instructive.

i mean, if we are fascists calling ourselves a democratic republic, who pay into social security and get social security support in our old age but decry "communism," maybe it is worth noting that the official label really doesn't mean much anyway. Reading between the lines here, the fear might be expressed as a fear of the political will of the people being usurped somehow? Well again, how would that be any different than what we have now, courtesy of Western Civilization and republican democracy? Or, what is it specifically that you fear?

(Keeping in mind that we would not even have WC as we know it if we had listened to the founding fathers)

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(1) you must admit, that has been the the policy of the US
government since the end of WWII, and about what then President
Eisenhower warned us;

(2) I think you read a little too much into that (not ignoring
the problems they present);

(3) they are only "spiritual" as to their roles in prophecy.

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1 hour presentation by Soviet KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov, regarding HOW communists have been subverting western society (this subversion continues today, by the way):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZnkULuWFDg

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G. Edward Griffin's interview of Yuri Bezmenov:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnf0I2dQ0i0

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Presentation by former missionary about Communist Takeover of America. A little rough around the edges but seems to be a pretty decent straightforward presentation of the basic problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyQ_Iw1vcnc

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Short documentary on history of Communist subversion, propaganda, and psychological manipulation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwrb_G9ecf4

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2 hours with Charlotte Iserbyt, former Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement (OERI), U.S. Department of Education, during the first Reagan Administration, documenting the sovietizing of the public education system in America:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2RWgVRfaSE

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Yugoslavian anti-Communist dissident under Tito explaining how modern western society is becoming MORE totalitarian than cold war era Communist society (Eastern Europe) was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psXbdrIQHkQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEMmsThO2zA

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We're no where near full blown communism. Like most Western nations, we have a "mixed economy". Welcome to 2016. We look so silly when we exaggerate and descend into alarmism.

http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/gl...mixed-economy/

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What I find interesting is that if one were to actually categorize ancient Israel's economy based on the Law of Moses as delivered by God.... it would be listed as an "agrarian socialist" economy.

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Hmmmm, can you share your reasoning?

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Obviously you either didn't watch the videos or read the links, OR you've been 'communised' already in your thinking... which is what this thread is all about.

Communism is not 'an economic system'. It is a paradigm.

It's not exaggeration or alarmism when communists and former communists identify what's going on. And the reason things have progressed to the point they have, is because way too many people have normalcy bias (like yourself) and therefore cannot recognise reality.

Read the links, watch the videos.

EDIT: I forgot, you're the guy who voted for Ozero... TWICE.

That explains everything. Never mind.

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It's called communism, otherwise known as fake revisionist history.

Israel was not an agrarian socialist system under the law of of God. Socialism requires a STATE with a central government to manage EVERYTHING. Ancient Israel under Moses' law did not have a central government until they had a king.

But according to the lies of communism, anything YOU think is good has a communist/socialist origin, while everything you think is bad has its origins in something opposed to communism/socialism. Thus, communist propagandists re-write history.

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i'm confused now if we're supposed to be fearing Commies or Muslims :lol

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What's the difference? lol

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We're supposed to fear God, expose evil, and stand for righteousness.

(Notice it's not called "lefteousness"? lol)

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This is worth watching. Very relevant for 2020.

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I wonder how many Trump supporters actually know who all his Cabinet picks were and their backgrounds?

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It reminds me the "Foundations of Geopolitics" book: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founda...f_Geopolitics:

The book emphasizes that Russia must spread anti-Americanism everywhere: "the main 'scapegoat' will be precisely the U.S."

In the United States:

Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]

This is a very interesting video. Those "areas of subversion" by the minute 13, are not just the result of subversive acts, but, at least in part, the signs of a society in decadence as well. As Voltaire puts it: "History is filled with the sound of silken slippers going downstairs and wooden shoes coming up."

So you may see that the subversive act is to accelerate/facilitate the fall of a country, or at least make it worse.

The root of the problem is sin. Even communism is the result of sin: presenting the atheist religion system as the solution to all the injustices. A man that rejects God, that wants its religion taught at schools and enforced everywhere (like Muslins?), that hopes to build a utopia society without God, that negates the existence of sin/evil.
But the root of Communism is a sin it itself: the foolishness of denying the Biblical truth, and the envy of others prosperity. It fails to recognize that the solution to the injustices is simply a not corrupted justice system.

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The minute 1:00:05 and beyond is priceless.

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Speaking about it, I saw this today on the WSJ:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-rus...=hp_lead_pos10

The sprawling SolarWinds hack by suspected Russian state-backed hackers is the latest sign of Moscow’s growing resolve and improving technical ability to cause disruption and conduct espionage at a global scale in cyberspace.

The hack, which compromised parts of the U.S. government as well as tech companies, a hospital and a university, adds to a string of increasingly sophisticated and ever more brazen online intrusions, demonstrating how cyber operations have become a key plank in Russia’s confrontation with the West, analysts and officials say.

Moscow’s relations with the West continue to sour, and the Kremlin sees the cyber operations as a cheap and effective way to achieve its geopolitical goals, analysts say. Russia, they say, is therefore unlikely to back off from such tactics, even while facing U.S. sanctions or countermeasures.

“For a country that already perceives itself as being in conflict with the West practically in every domain except open military clashes, there is no incentive to leave any field that can offer an advantage,” said Keir Giles, senior consulting fellow at Chatham House think tank.

The scope of Russia’s cyber operations has grown in tandem with Moscow’s global ambitions: from cyberattacks on neighboring Estonia in 2007 to election interference in the U.S. and France a decade later, to SolarWinds, seen as one of the worst known hacks of federal computer systems.

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Chinese to the left of me, Russians to the right...
Here I am, stuck in the middle with .... Who? Why communists in DC, that's who.

It's okay, boys, we've got them surrounded from the inside! Attack in all directions!

Chesty Puller would know what to do.

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