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n david 08-03-2016 08:12 AM

"GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mode"
 
"""Yesterday morning, we wrote that Donald Trump's campaign seemed like it was unraveling over his inexplicable clash with the Khan family. Twenty-four hours later, the word "unraveling" seems like an understatement. Take a look at what's happened in the last 24 hours:

  • In a Washington Post interview, Trump declined to endorse House Speaker Paul Ryan against his primary challenger
  • He reiterated that he hasn't endorsed Sen. John McCain and said the onetime prisoner of war "has not done a good job for the vets"
  • He slapped out at Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte, saying "she has given me zero support"
  • He suggested that Americans should pull their 401(k) funds out of the stock market
  • He said he's "always wanted" to receive a Purple Heart but that having one gifted to him by a supporter was "much easier"
  • He said that the handling of sexual harassment has "got to be up to the individual"
  • He accused Khizr Khan of being "bothered" by his plan to keep terrorists out of the country, and said that he had no regrets about his clash with the family
  • He appeared to feud with a crying baby during a rally
  • He reiterated that "if the election is rigged, I would not be surprised"
  • The sitting president of the United States publicly called Trump "unfit to serve" and urged Republicans to withdraw their support for him.
  • Trump spokesman Katrina Pierson suggested that Obama and Clinton are to blame for the death of Humayan Khan, who died in 2004, when neither were in the executive branch at the time
  • An ally of Paul Manafort told our colleague John Harwood at CNBC that the campaign chairman is "mailing it in," leaving the rest of the staff "suicidal."
  • Sitting GOP congressman Richard Hanna, HP head Meg Whitman and former Christie aide Maria Comella all said they plan to vote for Hillary Clinton
  • The Washington Post released a transcript of its full interview with Trump, indicating among other things that he paused five times to watch TV coverage in the middle of the sit-down
  • A GOP source told NBC's Katy Tur that Reince Priebus is "apoplectic" over Trump's refusal to endorse Ryan and is making calls to the campaign to express his "extreme displeasure"

This all happened since 8am yesterday. With all that, do we need to be asking a new question: Do Republicans go public with their hope that Trump withdraws from the race? We're at the point where there's GOP chatter about key Republicans coming out hard against their own nominee - and especially eyeing Trump's falling polling numbers to gauge the point at which they need to come up with a "break glass" backup plan to save down-ballot seats."""

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/firs...s-mode-n622116

n david 08-03-2016 08:22 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
"""Senior Republican Party officials 'frustrated and confused' by Trump's 'erratic behavior', exploring options in case he drops out - ABC News"""

n david 08-03-2016 08:23 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
@jonathanvswan @thehill """Just got off the phone with a top Trump donor and fundraiser. At wit's end. Expletive after expletive. Can't fathom what Trump is doing."""

""""I would break his f---ing thumbs if I could" - top Trump donor/fundraiser to me just now."""

n david 08-03-2016 08:31 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
NBC News """More from same source: The next 24 to 72 hours are crucial. There is serious talk about key Republicans coming out hard against Trump."""

aegsm76 08-03-2016 08:34 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
I believe the more "top" Republicans come out against Trump, the more likely it is he will be elected.
The mood of a large part of the country is anger at both political parties.

n david 08-03-2016 08:35 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
I went to bed last night, knowing Trump has had an awful 24-48 hours, wake up to GOP considering options if he drops out?!?

I don't believe it. This sounds like GOP putting this out there in hopes he does, not that Trump is actually considering doing so.

Also, if the GOP is hoping he drops out, too bad. They had an opportunity to replace him weeks ago at the convention and did everything, including breaking rules, to make sure he was unopposed.

And people boo'd Cruz for not endorsing this flaming dumpster fire on rails???

n david 08-03-2016 08:40 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Christie has voiced his disapproval of Trump's continued attack on the Khans. Haven't heard from Gingrich lately. He's been oddly silent. Sen Sessions sided with Trump and condemned the Khan's for their attack on Trump. Sen Cotton voiced his disagreement as well.

shazeep 08-03-2016 09:07 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1442514)
I believe the more "top" Republicans come out against Trump, the more likely it is he will be elected.
The mood of a large part of the country is anger at both political parties.

what he said.

Birddog 08-03-2016 09:11 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
They have been hoping Trump will implode for the last year....

He is still in the race!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahaha

The establishment is quivering and I love it!

shazeep 08-03-2016 09:54 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
:lol ya you gotta love that part. If he gets assassinated i might even believe it :)
my guess is a "botched" assassination attempt is more likely.

n david 08-03-2016 09:58 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Currently on CNN's front page: 8 stories on Trump, but zip on Obama secretly sending Iran $400 million for hostages. https://t.co/m0oKzjgnTr

Good grief.

Nothing about Hillary's lie, either.

We need a dumpster fire emoji.

Pressing-On 08-03-2016 10:04 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Ted Cruz be like.... :heeheehee

https://i660.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4krufj9t.jpg

n david 08-03-2016 10:05 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1442538)

:toofunny

:thumbsup

Originalist 08-03-2016 10:15 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1442510)
"""Yesterday morning, we wrote that Donald Trump's campaign seemed like it was unraveling over his inexplicable clash with the Khan family. Twenty-four hours later, the word "unraveling" seems like an understatement. Take a look at what's happened in the last 24 hours:

  • In a Washington Post interview, Trump declined to endorse House Speaker Paul Ryan against his primary challenger
  • He reiterated that he hasn't endorsed Sen. John McCain and said the onetime prisoner of war "has not done a good job for the vets"
  • He slapped out at Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte, saying "she has given me zero support"
  • He suggested that Americans should pull their 401(k) funds out of the stock market
  • He said he's "always wanted" to receive a Purple Heart but that having one gifted to him by a supporter was "much easier"
  • He said that the handling of sexual harassment has "got to be up to the individual"
  • He accused Khizr Khan of being "bothered" by his plan to keep terrorists out of the country, and said that he had no regrets about his clash with the family
  • He appeared to feud with a crying baby during a rally
  • He reiterated that "if the election is rigged, I would not be surprised"
  • The sitting president of the United States publicly called Trump "unfit to serve" and urged Republicans to withdraw their support for him.
  • Trump spokesman Katrina Pierson suggested that Obama and Clinton are to blame for the death of Humayan Khan, who died in 2004, when neither were in the executive branch at the time
  • An ally of Paul Manafort told our colleague John Harwood at CNBC that the campaign chairman is "mailing it in," leaving the rest of the staff "suicidal."
  • Sitting GOP congressman Richard Hanna, HP head Meg Whitman and former Christie aide Maria Comella all said they plan to vote for Hillary Clinton
  • The Washington Post released a transcript of its full interview with Trump, indicating among other things that he paused five times to watch TV coverage in the middle of the sit-down
  • A GOP source told NBC's Katy Tur that Reince Priebus is "apoplectic" over Trump's refusal to endorse Ryan and is making calls to the campaign to express his "extreme displeasure"

This all happened since 8am yesterday. With all that, do we need to be asking a new question: Do Republicans go public with their hope that Trump withdraws from the race? We're at the point where there's GOP chatter about key Republicans coming out hard against their own nominee - and especially eyeing Trump's falling polling numbers to gauge the point at which they need to come up with a "break glass" backup plan to save down-ballot seats."""

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/firs...s-mode-n622116

Why should he endorse those who won't endorse him? Why should we appease RINO's like Meg Whitman? Where is the outrage that she endorsed Clinton?

Originalist 08-03-2016 10:16 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1442514)
I believe the more "top" Republicans come out against Trump, the more likely it is he will be elected.
The mood of a large part of the country is anger at both political parties.


I agree completely.

n david 08-03-2016 10:36 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
"""Priebus, Giuliani & Gingrich are all hoping to stage an intervention with Trump to encourage a reset, per NBC https://t.co/dUx2pNyajb"""

How many times will this make? Every month or so there's a need for an intervention to "reset."

Should Trump actually win, he will need to create a "reset czar." Gingrich would be perfect for the role.

shazeep 08-03-2016 11:09 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Frank Zappa would be better :)

shazeep 08-03-2016 11:10 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
wonder what Moon Unit is doing these days :lol

n david 08-03-2016 11:27 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1442542)
Why should he endorse those who won't endorse him?

Ryan endorsed him. McCain said he's supporting the nominee. I thought I read on here somewhere, but can't find it, where someone asked why Trump should endorse someone with whom he doesn't agree. I know I've read this on Twitter from Trump supporters, to which I say it's ironic, because they criticize and boo'd Cruz for doing the same thing. Said it was self-serving, arrogant, etc. I believe it's fine for a politician to refuse to endorse someone with whom he/she doesn't agree. If Trump doesn't want to endorse Ryan or McCain due to his not agreeing with their globalism or warmongering, that's perfectly fine. I do not plan on voting for McCain later this month. Instead, I will vote for his challenger.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1442542)
Why should we appease RINO's like Meg Whitman?

He shouldn't feel the need to appease anyone. Neither should have Cruz. Works both ways. You damned and condemned Cruz, yet believe Trump should be allowed the same opportunity. That's hypocritical.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1442542)
Where is the outrage that she endorsed Clinton?

Lost in the Trump dumpster fire. Where's the outrage that several Bush admin have endorsed Clinton. Months back, I said Bush's and Clinton's were much alike. It's showing more and more. I would not be surprised to find that GHWB, GWB or JB voted for Clinton instead of Trump.

n david 08-03-2016 11:39 AM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
"I strongly support Paul Ryan, strongly endorse his re-election," Pence says on Fox.

:lol

Do Trump and Pence ever speak with each other?

Actually, this is perfect for Trump. Trump can claim he didn't endorse an establishment GOPer, who is part of the systemic problems in DC, while Pence gives his endorsement.

n david 08-03-2016 12:14 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
"""Former House speaker Newt Gingrich, one of Trump’s most loyal defenders, warned that his friend was in danger of throwing away the election and helping to make Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton president unless he quickly changes course.

“The current race is which of these two is the more unacceptable, because right now neither of them is acceptable,” Gingrich said in a Wednesday morning telephone interview. “Trump is helping her to win by proving he is more unacceptable than she is.”

Gingrich said Trump has only a matter of weeks to reverse course. “Anybody who is horrified by Hillary should hope that Trump will take a deep breath and learn some new skills,” he said. “He cannot win the presidency operating the way he is now. She can’t be bad enough to elect him if he’s determined to make this many mistakes.”""

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...856_story.html

n david 08-03-2016 12:18 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
So much for that unity the GOP was trying to shove down everyone's throats at the convention. It's bad when Gingrich comes out and says Trump is blowing it and isn't an acceptable candidate.

n david 08-03-2016 12:22 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
https://twitter.com/lachlan/status/760873136158076928

:lol

Aquila 08-03-2016 01:09 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pressing-On (Post 1442538)

:toofunny

ROFLMBO!!!!!!

That is an awesome post!!!! LOL!

Aquila 08-03-2016 01:14 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
I'm worried that this demonstrates that Trump isn't psychologically fit to handle the office of the Presidency. Imagine the entire world going to hell around him, our allies distancing themselves from us, our enemies emboldened, nukes on the ready, and him begging the global community for a reset.

This isn't Monday night football or WWE wrestling. We need a solid and stable President.

Aquila 08-03-2016 01:22 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Here's something else that concerns me. Even if Trump resigns from the race, then 168 Republicans will have to vote to establish a new candidate. Unless they go with Ted Cruz, the entire democratic processes will have been circumvented with the will of the Republican voters essentially not being counted. There's something very unsettling about this. If the current nominee should resign, the runner-up should automatically take their place, having had the second greatest number of Republican voters supporting them.

Should only 168 Republicans establish a candidate that wasn't the runner-up at the convention, and should that candidate win the White House, the legitimacy of the entire Administration could be called into question.

If Trump folds, they should automatically give it to Ted Cruz.

n david 08-03-2016 01:31 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
"""Trump adviser @KellyannePolls: "I would push back on any formal report that the candidate is going to leave the race."""

Wut? That's not exactly a reassuring comment for Trump supporters.

n david 08-03-2016 01:33 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquila (Post 1442566)
I'm worried that this demonstrates that Trump isn't psychologically fit to handle the office of the Presidency. Imagine the entire world going to hell around him, our allies distancing themselves from us, our enemies emboldened, nukes on the ready, and him begging the global community for a reset.

This isn't Monday night football or WWE wrestling. We need a solid and stable President.

AZ Dem Rep:

“I want to keep this country safe and somebody like Donald Trump is unstable. He doesn’t understand the military … he clearly doesn’t have the temperament to be president of the United States,” Gallego said in the TV interview.

“This man is unstable, he is unfit to be a presidential candidate. … I do believe he’s mentally unstable,” Gallego, who served in the Marines, said. “Who in their right mind would attack a Gold Star family?”

Originalist 08-03-2016 02:33 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1442570)
AZ Dem Rep:

“I want to keep this country safe and somebody like Donald Trump is unstable. He doesn’t understand the military … he clearly doesn’t have the temperament to be president of the United States,” Gallego said in the TV interview.

“This man is unstable, he is unfit to be a presidential candidate. … I do believe he’s mentally unstable,” Gallego, who served in the Marines, said. “Who in their right mind would attack a Gold Star family?”


Thank you for letting us know that you support and promote the distortions of the left.

shazeep 08-03-2016 02:43 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
y'know 'distortion' is a pretty good descriptive of what has been done to the whole Democratic Process here :lol

n david 08-03-2016 04:11 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Originalist (Post 1442574)
Thank you for letting us know that you support and promote the distortions of the left.

Whoa. Where in my post did I give any support? Aquila posted about Trump being unstable, it reminded me of the furor on the local radio yesterday afternoon, due to Gallego's comments.

I don't agree with the comments, nor do I believe Trump is mentally unstable. I do wonder if he's doing some things on purpose to throw the race.

deacon blues 08-04-2016 02:16 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Just heard Rudy Giuliani make a great point on Sean Hannity's show. Democrats rally around people who break the law and they stay loyal and supportive. Republicans jump ship when someone says something insensitive.

What a bunch of weenies!

Originalist 08-04-2016 02:55 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1442656)
Just heard Rudy Giuliani make a great point on Sean Hannity's show. Democrats rally around people who break the law and they stay loyal and supportive. Republicans jump ship when someone says something insensitive.

What a bunch of weenies!

So true.

n david 08-04-2016 03:55 PM

Re: "GOP, Trump From Unraveling to Break Glass Mod
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by deacon blues (Post 1442656)
Just heard Rudy Giuliani make a great point on Sean Hannity's show. Democrats rally around people who break the law and they stay loyal and supportive. Republicans jump ship when someone says something insensitive.

What a bunch of weenies!

Not completely honest. If anyone jumped ship, it was due to the rising number of Trump issues and continued questions about his temperament.

Trump has been given incredible opportunities to take the lead and put his foot on the throat of Clinton, and yet with each and every opportunity he does or says something to take the focus off her and on him. Her lie about Comey, the Benghazi mom, the hostage payoff, the release about the slowest recovery since 1949....and on and on.

But instead of drawing more attention to these issues and failures by Clinton, Trump has fought with a Gold Star Family, said he wouldn't endorse Ryan or Ayotte or McCain, whined about a baby crying, fought with a fire marshal, decided to dredge up his feud with Megyn Kelly.

If I wore :tinfoil, I'd almost believe Trump was intentionally throwing the race.


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