What is OP Universal Dominion?
 

is it the James guy or what. You bite, CB

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i have a next door neighbor who is eaten up with cancer, but she won't go to the doctor, because she is afraid that he will...tell her she has cancer.

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https://www.raptureready.com/resourc...p/knap210.html

1. That no body of unconverted persons, no matter by what name called, ever was, or ever can be, the Church of Christ or any part of it.


and who determines who the "converted" are? Not you, essentially :lol

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2. That the fact that a body of such persons may have the names of a few regenerate or sanctified people upon its rolls, does not constitute it a New Testament church, any more than a few sweet apple trees in a thorn thicket would constitute that field a sweet apple orchard.

wow the Church is actually given a nod here--those regenerate or sanctified people--and i suggest one contemplate that It is the only Church that matters. Paul spent a whole chapter in Galatians talking about how he avoided that NT church, little c there, notice; and dig how Paul got his v how you got yours, right there on top, hmm.
http://www.bible.ca/ef/expository-galatians-1-and-2.htm

"'Surely', they went on, 'we cannot follow Paul if he is in a minority of one, and if Peter and the rest of the apostles disagree with him?'"

"...they only desired that they practice benevolence. To this Paul said: 'the very thing which I also was eager to do.'"

"Once I hear, believe and obey the gospel of Christ, I should never allow anyone to pressure me to compromise. Others may help me understand Bible teachings, and urge me toward deeper faithfulness and give me a good example of God-pleasing behavior. But nobody - no group of men; no elder, preacher, magazine, college or friend - NOBODY should be allowed to confer with me in such a manner as to cause me to pervert the gospel of Christ. Further, as a preacher I should be willing to establish that my message came from Jesus Christ (in our case, through the Spirit-inspired writings of the New Testament). I should be ready to give an answer, deal with charges and show that what I believe, teach and practice came from the New Testament of Jesus Christ. "There are times for thoughtful and even prolonged consideration, but where God's will is perfectly clear there is no need to consult men. Our first duty to Christ is a prompt obedience," (Pulpit Commentary)."

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(actually the Cs are mixed up here, they have Capitalized theirs, the one made by men, "Church of Christ," while relegating the real one, "New Testament church," to a small c, so apply this before you apply that, i guess)

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Do you usually ramble on incoherently in real life like you do here? Seriously, you aren't making any sense. I'm sure it all makes sense to you, but to others... your posts often seem like a bad reading of Joyce with every other page missing...

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well, then maybe that isn't for you? You are welcome to read ahead, if you like; the link is all about UD, as will be explicitly stated here in a few. Don't know why an OP has not already jumped in here, i gave you guys a week.

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3. That a body which was once a branch of the Church, but whose ministers and members have backslidden, is not the Church, even though it bears its name, any more than the bed of a river is still a river, when its waters are dried up.

I'm curious; if one group says "backslidden" and the other group says "hey, we are just following the Word of Christ," how is one to know the truth?

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wow, a lot of the rest of this is actually quite inspired

Loyalty to organization or doctrine must not be substituted for loyalty to Christ. He who allows doctrine, or organization and ministers to usurp the headship of Christ in the Church, desecrates the temple of God by idolatry more inexcusable than that of pagan lands, because in the presence of greater light. In God's true Church His headship is recognized and obeyed.

trying to skip ahead to the "UD" part now, it's in there somewhere...

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"If a man can not be loyal to Jesus Christ, the Holy Ghost, the Word of God and the church of which he is a member at the same time, it is proof that something is wrong with his church."

still looking for UD, which is in there somewhere lol.

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"He who allows doctrine, or organization and ministers to usurp the headship of Christ in the Church, desecrates the temple of God by idolatry..."

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"...was not born nor is it fostered in the real Church of Christ, which is too humble to dictate to her divine Head as to the agencies He shall employ, and too grateful for the blessings thus bestowed to harbor such a spirit of censorious criticism."

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"...the farce of substituting baptism or church-joining for coming to Christ is a delusion and a snare. Sham churches coax people to unite with them."

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"It is a universal Church. "From whom every family in heaven and on earth is named" (Eph. iii. 15). It consists of the regenerated in all climes and conditions above and below, living and dead."

wow, didn't expect this one, hmm.

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"If a man can not be loyal to Jesus Christ, the Holy Ghost, the Word of God and the church of which he is a member at the same time, it is proof that something is wrong with his church."

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"A dumb church on the subject of experimental salvation is a dead one, no matter how aggressive she may be on other lines."

What is experimental salvation?
http://www.radiomissions.org/sermons/expsalv.shtml

"Salvation is far more than just believing the statement that salvation is found in the Lord Jesus Christ. So many come to the front in our churches today, and when the preacher asks them, "Are you trusting Jesus?" say, "Yes, I'm trusting Him." My friend, that is not salvation! Salvation is much more than a call, or an invitation to sinners to receive Jesus as Lord and Saviour. Salvation is more than just believing the Word that Christ died for sinners, and reasoning that since I am a sinner, Christ died for me.


Salvation is even more than an awakened sinner coming to rest upon the promises of God, because salvation is not resting upon the Word, nor just believing the Word. You can believe the Word and go to Hell! You can rest upon a promise and wake up in Hell. Salvation is even more than resting upon the finished work of Christ upon the cross. Salvation is far more than a decision for Christ, or taking your stand for Christ.Salvation is far more than just believing the statement that salvation is found in the Lord Jesus Christ. So many come to the front in our churches today, and when the preacher asks them, "Are you trusting Jesus?" say, "Yes, I'm trusting Him." My friend, that is not salvation! Salvation is much more than a call, or an invitation to sinners to receive Jesus as Lord and Saviour. Salvation is more than just believing the Word that Christ died for sinners, and reasoning that since I am a sinner, Christ died for me."

maybe we'll find UD tomorrow :lol

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"The members of the Pentecostal Church were all baptized into one body. They were all bound together with the golden bond of love. Celestial fire had burned out the dross of carnality so that there was no foundation within their hearts upon which to build sectarian walls. The Paulites and Johnites and Peterites were too insignificant a minority of unsanctified members to start a new denomination, so no iron walls of separating creeds had yet been reared. [The meaning of this statement seems rather hard to grasp. Apparently he means that carnal factions that identified themselves with different leaders in the early church were in the minority. -- DVM] Faults and individual differences were all buried deep beneath the flowery sod of perfect love. This was the Church as launched from the Pentecostal harbor. It soon was corrupted so that even in apostolic times, divisions, such as have led to the sects of this and preceding centuries, appeared. All were exhorted to be "of one mind," and at Pentecost this mighty miracle was wrought, a token of God's will and power to His people in His Church forever. What a sad comment on this privilege and requirement is the laughing factions into which Satan has split the churches of the present day."

wow, good stuff, i might have to look this guy up.

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"It is built on a firm foundation."
"It shall be blessed with inspiring revivals."
"It shall have universal dominion."

ah, here we go:
"For that nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish: yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted" (Isa. lx. 12). This prophecy is not yet fulfilled. There is not a nation on earth that serves Christ's Church, nor even recognizes His Kingship. Such are doomed, and must make room for those which shall delight in righteousness."

ok, so, disregarding that this prophecy is fulfilled every day, and that everyone who reads this can witness "nations utterly wasted," nonetheless strong men will suggest some new Separatist Movement, a new King, in a new Country, somehow different from all the old kings and countries, and immune, somehow, from the prophecy of 1Sam8, even if neither Isaiah nor this author means to imply that.

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How weird is it that UD seems to be an OP doctrine, but no one wants to claim it :lol

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:lol

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