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Evang.Benincasa 01-15-2017 05:12 PM

He has it all figured out! Thank God for Google!
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn_l...ith#t=22.19004

Evang.Benincasa 08-27-2017 08:08 PM

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I came across this joker in January of last year talking about September 23 2017.

When we have our Bible studies in the streets of Fort Lauderdale, I always come across some weirdness. People ask questions concerning things they have heard or seen. This individual's info kept coming up, so, I dutifully watched his vid. But I forgot all about it, until the Revelation 12 sign came up again. Everything is supposed to happen Sept 23 2017. So, I guess these chaps are going to be disappointed when nothing eventful happens.

n david 09-06-2017 11:03 AM

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A friend of mine shared a video on FB from a minister I know who is very much into prophecy and End Times/Baxter studies. He's had Baxter at his church for end time conferences several years.

He recorded a FB Live video Monday about the eclipse, the hurricanes and how he believes it relates to the end times. Unfortunately I can't link it to AFF. I tried and when I tested the link it sent me to a FB error page. The video was shared globally, not limited to just their friends, but FB isn't video link friendly.

It's a 28 minute video. In it, he claims the eclipse marked the end of the times of the Gentiles. He talked about Hurricane Harvey and Irma and how earthquake in the Greek actually means "commotion of the air," "gale" or the English word, "hurricane." He claims Hurricane's always cause earthquakes, due to flooding seeping down into the earth.

He talked about Carbondale, IL and how it's "X marks the spot" for the eclipse and also the northern tip of the New Madrid fault line.

This isn't a prediction and he said he isn't saying this under unction of God, but he read that Hurricane Irma will hit NYC on Sept 11th. IF it does, it could dump four feet of flooding will shut down the stock market, causing a global catastrophe. Again, not a prediction, not a prophecy, just an IF it happens.

He is claiming that the recent flooding in TX, possible more flooding from Irma throughout FL and the eastern US will overwhelm the tectonic plates and cause earthquakes in the US.

He goes back to the eclipse and notes that another eclipse is coming in exactly seven years. """SEVEN YEARS OF JUDGMENT!"""

"""IS AMERICA BEING JUDGED BY GOD? DID AMERICA CROSS THE LINE WITH THE PAST ADMINISTRATION AND ALL OF THE THINGS THE PAST ADMINISTRATION DID AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD AND AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF GOD, ISRAEL?"""

President Trump may have saved us! By Trump calling for a Day of Prayer this past Sunday, God may keep Irma in the Atlantic and save us.

Amanah 09-06-2017 11:20 AM

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Hurricane Irma is the most powerful storm ever observed in the Atlantic basin, excluding the Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico, according to the National Hurricane Center. It's become so strong that it's even showing up on scales reserved for measuring earthquakes.
http://www.newsweek.com/hurricane-ir...hquakes-659804

TakingDominion 09-06-2017 11:56 AM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1499573)
A friend of mine shared a video on FB from a minister I know who is very much into prophecy and End Times/Baxter studies. He's had Baxter at his church for end time conferences several years.

He recorded a FB Live video Monday about the eclipse, the hurricanes and how he believes it relates to the end times. Unfortunately I can't link it to AFF. I tried and when I tested the link it sent me to a FB error page. The video was shared globally, not limited to just their friends, but FB isn't video link friendly.

It's a 28 minute video. In it, he claims the eclipse marked the end of the times of the Gentiles. He talked about Hurricane Harvey and Irma and how earthquake in the Greek actually means "commotion of the air," "gale" or the English word, "hurricane." He claims Hurricane's always cause earthquakes, due to flooding seeping down into the earth.

He talked about Carbondale, IL and how it's "X marks the spot" for the eclipse and also the northern tip of the New Madrid fault line.

This isn't a prediction and he said he isn't saying this under unction of God, but he read that Hurricane Irma will hit NYC on Sept 11th. IF it does, it could dump four feet of flooding will shut down the stock market, causing a global catastrophe. Again, not a prediction, not a prophecy, just an IF it happens.

He is claiming that the recent flooding in TX, possible more flooding from Irma throughout FL and the eastern US will overwhelm the tectonic plates and cause earthquakes in the US.

He goes back to the eclipse and notes that another eclipse is coming in exactly seven years. """SEVEN YEARS OF JUDGMENT!"""

"""IS AMERICA BEING JUDGED BY GOD? DID AMERICA CROSS THE LINE WITH THE PAST ADMINISTRATION AND ALL OF THE THINGS THE PAST ADMINISTRATION DID AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD AND AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF GOD, ISRAEL?"""

President Trump may have saved us! By Trump calling for a Day of Prayer this past Sunday, God may keep Irma in the Atlantic and save us.

NDavid, who was the minister?

Sean 09-06-2017 12:41 PM

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Why to some folks use "extreme sensationalists" for an excuse to write off all future prophecy?

Is that strictly to soothe an aching conscience?

Most likely.:nod

Sean 09-06-2017 12:47 PM

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And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;


Mock this.

n david 09-06-2017 02:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1499592)
And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Mock this.

My post wasn't intended to mock. Had I intended to mock, I would have included a gif or something like this - :dogpat :laffatu :grampa :tinfoil

Amanah 09-06-2017 02:50 PM

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for awesome gifs we need the gif master.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20110324025836

Sean 09-06-2017 03:43 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1499592)
And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;


Mock this.

Okay folks, as long as you all are in agreement that the signs are upon us, we are good.:thumbsup

Esaias 09-06-2017 03:44 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1499573)
A friend of mine shared a video on FB from a minister I know who is very much into prophecy and End Times/Baxter studies. He's had Baxter at his church for end time conferences several years.

He recorded a FB Live video Monday about the eclipse, the hurricanes and how he believes it relates to the end times. Unfortunately I can't link it to AFF. I tried and when I tested the link it sent me to a FB error page. The video was shared globally, not limited to just their friends, but FB isn't video link friendly.

It's a 28 minute video. In it, he claims the eclipse marked the end of the times of the Gentiles. He talked about Hurricane Harvey and Irma and how earthquake in the Greek actually means "commotion of the air," "gale" or the English word, "hurricane." He claims Hurricane's always cause earthquakes, due to flooding seeping down into the earth.

He talked about Carbondale, IL and how it's "X marks the spot" for the eclipse and also the northern tip of the New Madrid fault line.

This isn't a prediction and he said he isn't saying this under unction of God, but he read that Hurricane Irma will hit NYC on Sept 11th. IF it does, it could dump four feet of flooding will shut down the stock market, causing a global catastrophe. Again, not a prediction, not a prophecy, just an IF it happens.

He is claiming that the recent flooding in TX, possible more flooding from Irma throughout FL and the eastern US will overwhelm the tectonic plates and cause earthquakes in the US.

He goes back to the eclipse and notes that another eclipse is coming in exactly seven years. """SEVEN YEARS OF JUDGMENT!"""

"""IS AMERICA BEING JUDGED BY GOD? DID AMERICA CROSS THE LINE WITH THE PAST ADMINISTRATION AND ALL OF THE THINGS THE PAST ADMINISTRATION DID AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD AND AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF GOD, ISRAEL?"""

President Trump may have saved us! By Trump calling for a Day of Prayer this past Sunday, God may keep Irma in the Atlantic and save us.

  • Irwin Baxter? Check.
  • Natural disasters and the end times? Check.
  • Bad Greek? Check.
  • Bad science? Check.
  • Vague fear mongering? Check.
  • Bad numerics? Check.
  • Israeli politicking? Check.

Seven certain signs the minister is clueless.

n david 09-06-2017 04:14 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1499628)
Natural disasters and the end times? Check.

Together in Matthew 24 and Mark 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1499628)
Bad Greek? Check.

What is the original meaning in Greek? I'd post the Strong's definition, but IIRC Strong's has been disputed and disregarded as a reliable source.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1499628)
Bad science? Check.

What is bad science?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1499628)
Vague fear mongering? Check.

True, vague in the part when he spoke of the continued path of Irma after hitting FL. Typically, though, people who get into prophecy like this are very detailed, such as the video above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1499628)
Bad numerics? Check.

He did mention the eclipse started in the 33rd state and ended on the 33 parallel. I forgot what significance that had.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1499628)
Israeli politicking? Check.

Yes.

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q...psdcgrehcy.jpg

Esaias 09-06-2017 04:54 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1499647)
Together in Matthew 24 and Mark 13

Jesus said "but the end is not yet" in regards to wars, diseases, earthquakes, etc.


Quote:

What is the original meaning in Greek? I'd post the Strong's definition, but IIRC Strong's has been disputed and disregarded as a reliable source.
The word is seismos, and means a disturbance or commotion. It can refer to either an earthquake, or a tempest, depending on whether it is a commotion of the earth or the air/sea.

Quote:

What is bad science?
"Hurricanes always cause earthquakes."

Quote:

True, vague in the part when he spoke of the continued path of Irma after hitting FL. Typically, though, people who get into prophecy like this are very detailed, such as the video above.
"Could be, might be, but not saying certainly must be..."

Quote:

He did mention the eclipse started in the 33rd state and ended on the 33 parallel. I forgot what significance that had.
Bad numerics.


But of course, where do you think dispensationalism came from?

lol

Amanah 09-06-2017 05:18 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TakingDominion (Post 1499585)
NDavid, who was the minister?

nDavid, can you give us the name of the minister so we can check out his facebook page?

n david 09-06-2017 05:24 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1499654)
Jesus said "but the end is not yet" in regards to wars, diseases, earthquakes, etc.

"These are the beginning of sorrows"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1499654)
The word is seismos, and means a disturbance or commotion. It can refer to either an earthquake, or a tempest, depending on whether it is a commotion of the earth or the air/sea.

So it's not actually bad Greek. The meaning can include "gale" or hurricane.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1499654)
"Hurricanes always cause earthquakes."

I don't recall any earthquakes after Katrina, Rita or Ike, so suggesting it always happens is an overstatement. But some scientists believe it is possible for an earthquake to follow a hurricane. And it's possible for a flood to cause an earthquake.

"""At the 2010 American Geophysical Union meeting, Shimon Wdowinski of the University of Miami argued that the abnormally heavy 2008 hurricane season caused enough land erosion to shift the pressure on the earth's crust, triggering the massive 2010 quake in Haiti. He pointed out that strong storm seasons also preceded large quakes in Taiwan in 1996 and 2009."""

"""A 2003 paper by Dadson and colleagues, also published in Nature, discusses the link between erosion and seismicity on the mountainous and typhoon-ravaged island of Taiwan. A separate study of Taiwan concluded that so-called "slow" earthquakes are influenced by the change in atmospheric pressure from typhoons passing over the island."""

n david 09-06-2017 05:28 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Amanah (Post 1499660)
nDavid, can you give us the name of the minister so we can check out his facebook page?

Link to video page
The Pastor doesn't have a FB page. It was posted to his wife's page.

The video is 28 minutes long. It's at the top, second from the left.

Wish I could link to the video itself, but this works.

TK Burk 09-07-2017 08:47 AM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n david (Post 1499573)
A friend of mine shared a video on FB from a minister I know who is very much into prophecy and End Times/Baxter studies. He's had Baxter at his church for end time conferences several years.

He recorded a FB Live video Monday about the eclipse, the hurricanes and how he believes it relates to the end times. Unfortunately I can't link it to AFF. I tried and when I tested the link it sent me to a FB error page. The video was shared globally, not limited to just their friends, but FB isn't video link friendly.

It's a 28 minute video. In it, he claims the eclipse marked the end of the times of the Gentiles. He talked about Hurricane Harvey and Irma and how earthquake in the Greek actually means "commotion of the air," "gale" or the English word, "hurricane." He claims Hurricane's always cause earthquakes, due to flooding seeping down into the earth.

He talked about Carbondale, IL and how it's "X marks the spot" for the eclipse and also the northern tip of the New Madrid fault line.

This isn't a prediction and he said he isn't saying this under unction of God, but he read that Hurricane Irma will hit NYC on Sept 11th. IF it does, it could dump four feet of flooding will shut down the stock market, causing a global catastrophe. Again, not a prediction, not a prophecy, just an IF it happens.

He is claiming that the recent flooding in TX, possible more flooding from Irma throughout FL and the eastern US will overwhelm the tectonic plates and cause earthquakes in the US.

He goes back to the eclipse and notes that another eclipse is coming in exactly seven years. """SEVEN YEARS OF JUDGMENT!"""

"""IS AMERICA BEING JUDGED BY GOD? DID AMERICA CROSS THE LINE WITH THE PAST ADMINISTRATION AND ALL OF THE THINGS THE PAST ADMINISTRATION DID AGAINST THE WORD OF GOD AND AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF GOD, ISRAEL?"""

President Trump may have saved us! By Trump calling for a Day of Prayer this past Sunday, God may keep Irma in the Atlantic and save us.

:doh

Bro. Baxter is a great guy, but his prophetic track record is pathetic. To see why I say this, consider these points:

His 1986 book A Message for the President predicted the '10 Horned' beast from which the “antichrist” would arise would be a "12 member" European Common Market. Did it happen? Nope. The EU passed that number years ago and now has 28 countries. So, what’s the big deal? This is just one of several errors in that book. This book’s contents were claimed to be ‘inspired of God,’ which its many errors have proven to be false. I believe these errors are why Baxter no longer offers this book on his Endtime website.

Then his 1994 book entitled Mideast Treaty was published. This book was advertised to reveal “the greatest prophetic fulfillment in 2,000 years.” That statement is used by Baxter for MANY of his prophetic claims. However, his claim in this book is grossly misleading since its predictions became outdated not long after its release. Because of these inaccuracies this book is also not available for purchase on Baxter’s website.

There was also an incident where donations were solicited for over a year to pay for a special magazine he called the “emergency issue.” The plan was to mail one million copies of this emergency magazine around the world to announce the “final seven years” had begun. Thousands of these magazines were mailed (far less than the hoped for million) after President Bill Clinton had Yitzhak Rabin, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yasir Arafat, the chairman of the P.L.O. shake hands at the White House on September 13, 1993. Baxter believed this handshake "confirmed the covenant" (he referred to it as the “Jerusalem Covenant”) spoken of by Daniel. He then mailed these magazines to announce his belief the final seven years had begun ticking down. You don't need a Texas Instruments calculator to add up how far he missed that one.

Then there was a full page, four-color, advertisement he took out in USA TODAY around 2000-2001. That advertisement predicted a “soon coming” war between China and Taiwan. Does anybody remember that invasion happening? No? So, yet another wrong prophecy prediction.

The above is a few of the teachings in which Bro. Baxter is in error. He likes to have you imagine his teachings are God inspired. But when he misses any prediction he excuses that by saying he “never said for sure.” Yes, that is true. He is sharp and knows the Bible makes no allowance for false prophets. I do believe in Jesus’ grace, but I must ask, how many grossly misleading prophecies is enough before a “believer” stops taking stock in what he says?

Sean 09-07-2017 02:31 PM

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There is big money and prestige in sensationalism, but it does not in the least, weaken the words of future prophetical event written in the word of God.

Even the mark of the beast will not be revealed to man(what it is) except an angel tell everyone.:nod

Sean 09-07-2017 02:32 PM

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Questions?....

mfblume 09-07-2017 04:51 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1499801)
Questions?....

Sean , you can go now.

Sean 09-07-2017 06:29 PM

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9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

houston 09-07-2017 06:33 PM

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Point?

Sean 09-07-2017 06:39 PM

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3 angels in Rev. 14 will precede the mark. The 3rd angel gives the inhabitants of the earth fair warning not to take it.

Sean 09-07-2017 06:44 PM

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Men are not the 3rd angel, so dont believe men about what the mark may be. The 3rd angel is 100% accurate.

Evang.Benincasa 09-07-2017 07:25 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1499848)
Men are not the 3rd angel, so dont believe men about what the mark may be. The 3rd angel is 100% accurate.

Wait a minute.

I remember once, you told us that you are a special messenger. One who is anointed to correct doctrine in the Apostolic movement?

Evang.Benincasa 09-07-2017 07:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1499800)
There is big money and prestige in sensationalism, but it does not in the least, weaken the words of future prophetical event written in the word of God.

Even the mark of the beast will not be revealed to man(what it is) except an angel tell everyone.:nod

How much you been making? :heeheehee

Truthseeker 09-07-2017 07:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1499626)
Okay folks, as long as you all are in agreement that the signs are upon us, we are good.:thumbsup

They arent

Sean 09-07-2017 07:50 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1499853)
Wait a minute.

I remember once, you told us that you are a special messenger. One who is anointed to correct doctrine in the Apostolic movement?

I am not the 3rd angel.:throwrock

Sean 09-07-2017 07:51 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1499854)
How much you been making? :heeheehee

LOL.

Still a volunteer,:highfive

Evang.Benincasa 09-07-2017 08:00 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Sean you are up to 18,869 posts?

Evang.Benincasa 09-07-2017 08:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Truthseeker (Post 1499858)
They arent

:heeheehee

Sean 09-07-2017 08:12 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1499866)
Sean you are up to 18,869 posts?

I cant seem to catch up to you(22,661), DB.:highfive

Evang.Benincasa 09-07-2017 08:38 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1499868)
I cant seem to catch up to you(22,661), DB.:highfive

Bro, that was since I joined the forum.

2007.

You joined 2013.

Sean 09-07-2017 08:40 PM

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That's what happens when someone works part time.

Evang.Benincasa 09-07-2017 08:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sean (Post 1499876)
That's what happens when someone works part time.

Did you retire?

I thought you were a GC?

Sean 09-07-2017 08:53 PM

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I am semi-retired... LOL

Jermyn Davidson 09-13-2017 12:08 PM

Re: He has it all figured out! Thank God for Googl
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1499628)
  • Irwin Baxter? Check.
  • Natural disasters and the end times? Check.
  • Bad Greek? Check.
  • Bad science? Check.
  • Vague fear mongering? Check.
  • Bad numerics? Check.
  • Israeli politicking? Check.

Seven certain signs the minister is clueless.

We agree except with your disparaging of Irwin Baxter. I like him.
:happydance

Evang.Benincasa 09-14-2017 07:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1500599)
We agree except with your disparaging of Irwin Baxter. I like him.
:happydance

I like a lot of people who get disparaged.

Just because I like them doesn't mean others aren't entitle to their opinion.

But, since you are on the subject why do you like Irwin?

Jermyn Davidson 09-14-2017 08:14 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa (Post 1500784)
I like a lot of people who get disparaged.

Just because I like them doesn't mean others aren't entitle to their opinion.

But, since you are on the subject why do you like Irwin?

Because the people in the churches I have attended have spoken highly of him and he and I are of the same opinion with America not taking part in the whole mark of the beast system.

houston 09-14-2017 08:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
he and I are of the same opinion with America not taking part in the whole mark of the beast system.

Based on?


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