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weloveour3sons 01-31-2017 08:43 PM

Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
We moved to Greeneville, TN in spring of 2015 from Ohio. We would really like to meet some non-legalistic Apostolics to study the Word together and become friends with. If you go to a UPC church and want to try to "convert" me back to UPC, please do not contact me. But if you want to worship, study, and break bread with us in a non-judgmental setting, please contact me at weloveour3sons@yahoo.com. No hate mail, please.

Holy Ghost filled, baptized in Jesus name, oneness believers! I'm also a worshiper (keyboardist, singer, songwriter) who'd be thrilled to make some music with other like-minded believers. I am a contemporary musician who likes to throw some hymns and old-time songs in every now and then.

I pray that someone in this area who wants to just love Jesus together in the fullness of His grace will contact us. God bless you!!!

Clint and Becky

Esaias 01-31-2017 08:58 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
I know of some house churchers in Texas who, last I knew, regularly went to Greenville for campmeeting with some Church of Jesus Christ folks up in Greenville. One year those Tennesseans came down to Texas for campmeeting and we all had a wonderful time.

I'll see what I can dig up and send you an email.

Esaias 01-31-2017 09:17 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Just found out those folks have a church in Kingsport, not Greenville....

returnman 02-01-2017 06:50 AM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by weloveour3sons (Post 1467051)
We moved to Greeneville, TN in spring of 2015 from Ohio. We would really like to meet some non-legalistic Apostolics to study the Word together and become friends with. If you go to a UPC church and want to try to "convert" me back to UPC, please do not contact me. But if you want to worship, study, and break bread with us in a non-judgmental setting, please contact me at weloveour3sons@yahoo.com. No hate mail, please.

Holy Ghost filled, baptized in Jesus name, oneness believers! I'm also a worshiper (keyboardist, singer, songwriter) who'd be thrilled to make some music with other like-minded believers. I am a contemporary musician who likes to throw some hymns and old-time songs in every now and then.

I pray that someone in this area who wants to just love Jesus together in the fullness of His grace will contact us. God bless you!!!

Clint and Becky

Beautiful country on that side of the state. This is a generalization but given the long history of oneness and UPC in TN I'd think there would be some like minded folks around. At one time TN was considered on par with Idaho in being the two most liberal districts. That has been some time ago and although I live in W. TN don't have any involvement anymore. Best of everything and enjoy your new home!

Jermyn Davidson 02-01-2017 09:20 AM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
There are some Black Apostolic churches that are not legalistic in anything other than the Acts 2:38 message. Have you tried visiting some of their services?

consapente89 02-01-2017 12:06 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1467093)
There are some Black Apostolic churches that are not legalistic in anything other than the Acts 2:38 message. Have you tried visiting some of their services?

Legalistic only in the Acts 2:38 message?

what does that mean?

Jermyn Davidson 02-01-2017 12:17 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1467097)
Legalistic only in the Acts 2:38 message?

what does that mean?

It means that they view their faulty interpretation of that scripture through the lens of legalism-- if a person isn't baptized in Jesus Name then they are not saved.

consapente89 02-01-2017 12:19 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1467098)
It means that they view their faulty interpretation of that scripture through the lens of legalism-- if a person isn't baptized in Jesus Name then they are not saved.

I see...

I think your are mistaking literalism for legalism.

LOVE JESUS 02-01-2017 12:51 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Where in Kingsport? What is the name of the church? A friend of mine lives there or nearby

Jermyn Davidson 02-01-2017 01:19 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1467099)
I see...

I think your are mistaking literalism for legalism.

Thank You but I used the right word although literalism could work for another sentence.

Esaias 02-01-2017 02:59 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1467097)
Legalistic only in the Acts 2:38 message?

what does that mean?

It means if they don't agree with Jermyn, they are legalists.

Jermyn Davidson 02-01-2017 06:35 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1467118)
It means if they don't agree with Jermyn, they are legalists.

Well, if a person MUST be baptized with the Name of Jesus Christ spoken over them, and if it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to be saved EXCEPT they are baptized in this very specific manner, then 99% of what we know of Christendom are either in hell or on their way there.

Acts 2:38 LITTERALLY contains two commands and a promise. Oneness Pentecostals misinterpret that scripture to preach it with 3 commands.

I have pointed these facts out before but maybe I have become calloused or crass in my interactions on here and for that I apologize and will work on to correct.

I love you, Oneness Pentecostals, but I believe you are wrong.

Jason B 02-01-2017 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1467144)

Well, if a person MUST be baptized with the Name of Jesus Christ spoken over them, and if it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to be saved EXCEPT they are baptized in this very specific manner, then 99% of what we know of Christendom are either in hell or on their way there.

Acts 2:38 LITTERALLY contains two commands and a promise. Oneness Pentecostals misinterpret that scripture to preach it with 3 commands.

I have pointed these facts out before but maybe I have become calloused or crass in my interactions on here and for that I apologize and will work on to correct.

I love you, Oneness Pentecostals, but I believe you are wrong.

:thumbsup

Esaias 02-01-2017 08:55 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1467144)
Well, if a person MUST be baptized with the Name of Jesus Christ spoken over them, and if it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to be saved EXCEPT they are baptized in this very specific manner, then 99% of what we know of Christendom are either in hell or on their way there.

Do those baptized in the name of Jesus make up only 1% of all Christendom, throughout all time?

Do you realize over half of all Christendom are unbaptized? Over half practice "infant baptism" and most of them don't even baptize (immerse) but sprinkle or pour. Plus there are those who "baptize" adults with sprinkling or pouring, but those aren't baptisms (immersions) either.

Over half of all living "Christians" believe remission of sins requires a duly authorised priest, auricular confession, and regular communion of the wafer. Another third believe it requires an authorized priest and regular communion of bread and wine.

Of the remaining 25%, MOST believe no nontrinitarian is saved. Most of that 25% also believe all the two thirds-three fourths of Christendom signified in the previous paragraph are lost BECAUSE of those stated beliefs.

In other words, NOBODY in Christendom except the ecumenical boobs on TBN and here on AFF think it strange that "everyone else in Christendom are in error and likely lost".

Or in still other words, your statement meant to shock people shocks nobody who actually stops and thinks about it.

rdp 02-01-2017 09:02 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
*Silly thread. Sadly, biblical selectivity will cause many folks to go to Hell.

*Besides, we would much rather be "legal" than illegal :heeheehee :thumbsup.

rdp 02-01-2017 09:03 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1467144)
I love you, Oneness Pentecostals, but I believe you are wrong.

*Funny, we would say the identical thing about Trinnies.

jfrog 02-01-2017 09:04 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1467055)
Just found out those folks have a church in Kingsport, not Greenville....

That's my neck of The woods. Greenville is maybe an hour to an hour and a half away from Kingsport.

jfrog 02-01-2017 09:08 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS (Post 1467104)
Where in Kingsport? What is the name of the church? A friend of mine lives there or nearby

There are a number of apostolic churches in Kingsport tn and surrounding areas.

Jermyn Davidson 02-01-2017 09:10 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1467168)
Do those baptized in the name of Jesus make up only 1% of all Christendom, throughout all time?

Do you realize over half of all Christendom are unbaptized? Over half practice "infant baptism" and most of them don't even baptize (immerse) but sprinkle or pour. Plus there are those who "baptize" adults with sprinkling or pouring, but those aren't baptisms (immersions) either.

Over half of all living "Christians" believe remission of sins requires a duly authorised priest, auricular confession, and regular communion of the wafer. Another third believe it requires an authorized priest and regular communion of bread and wine.

Of the remaining 25%, MOST believe no nontrinitarian is saved. Most of that 25% also believe all the two thirds-three fourths of Christendom signified in the previous paragraph are lost BECAUSE of those stated beliefs.

In other words, NOBODY in Christendom except the ecumenical boobs on TBN and here on AFF think it strange that "everyone else in Christendom are in error and likely lost".

Or in still other words, your statement meant to shock people shocks nobody who actually stops and thinks about it.

The intent wasn't to shock but to simply restate what I have said before.

Esaias 02-01-2017 09:15 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1467172)
That's my neck of The woods. Greenville is maybe an hour to an hour and a half away from Kingsport.

You familiar with Church of Jesus Christ folks there in Kingsport?

jfrog 02-01-2017 09:31 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1467175)
You familiar with Church of Jesus Christ folks there in Kingsport?

Not super familiar with the church name. Is it on gravely rd?

jfrog 02-01-2017 09:35 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1467184)
Not super familiar with the church name. Is it on gravely rd?

There is also
Apostolic lighthouse
Christian life center
And probably a few smaller ones I'm not as familiar with

Then there's the ones in Johnson city
And the two in gate city
And I know there's some in many of the other surrounding areas. I couldn't tell you who is strict on standards anymore. I think there's been general erosion of standard over the last 10-15 years

jfrog 02-01-2017 09:36 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
The one in gate city used to have church of Jesus Christ in its name but changed when joining the upc

Esaias 02-01-2017 09:44 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1467184)
Not super familiar with the church name. Is it on gravely rd?


The Church of Jesus Christ
501 Bell Ridge Rd.
Kingsport, Tn
37665
Pastor William R. Gibson

http://www.thechurchofjesuschrist-te...com/index.html

Esaias 02-01-2017 09:45 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1467190)
The Church of Jesus Christ
501 Bell Ridge Rd.
Kingsport, Tn
37665
Pastor William R. Gibson

I met these folks when they came down to Texas several years ago for camp meeting.

jfrog 02-01-2017 09:49 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1467190)
The Church of Jesus Christ
501 Bell Ridge Rd.
Kingsport, Tn
37665
Pastor William R. Gibson

http://www.thechurchofjesuschrist-te...com/index.html

Had no clue that one existed. It's only about 5 mins from my house too.

Esaias 02-01-2017 09:52 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jfrog (Post 1467193)
Had no clue that one existed. It's only about 5 mins from my house too.

What? You cain't hear the shoutin' from five minutes away???

They must have upgraded their insulation.

Steve Epley 02-01-2017 09:54 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
There are plenty worldly Pentecostal churches in that area that don't believe water is wet why start another?:heeheehee

jfrog 02-01-2017 09:56 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1467195)
What? You cain't hear the shoutin' from five minutes away???

They must have upgraded their insulation.

Lol.

jfrog 02-01-2017 09:57 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Epley (Post 1467196)
There are plenty worldly Pentecostal churches in that area that don't believe water is wet why start another?:heeheehee

Haha. There are quite a few. Then there were the churches that snubbed their noses at all those worldly apostolic churches...

consapente89 02-02-2017 07:04 AM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1467190)
The Church of Jesus Christ
501 Bell Ridge Rd.
Kingsport, Tn
37665
Pastor William R. Gibson

http://www.thechurchofjesuschrist-te...com/index.html

"The Church of Jesus Christ was founded on January 16th 1983 by Bishop William R. Gibson. The first church service was on a Sunday morning with a total of thirteen people attending. On that morning Bishop William Gibson preached the first message and proclaimed that no Jesus name, Apostolic, or Pentecostal will preach in our church. Now 30 years later that message still remains the same. There has been no Jesus Name, Apostolic, or Pentecostal behind our pulpit. "

From their website....what does this mean???

aegsm76 02-02-2017 09:38 AM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Interesting.
Here also from their website.
"But Christmas has not always been so joyful an family oriented. Santa Clause, The Christmas Tree, and the Reindeer has not always been something families loved. There are deep dark secrets that today society does not wish to know about Christmas and the majority of the other Holiday's! "

Santa Clause?
Well, it's better than Santa Claws, I suppose.

Esaias 02-02-2017 02:20 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by consapente89 (Post 1467244)
"The Church of Jesus Christ was founded on January 16th 1983 by Bishop William R. Gibson. The first church service was on a Sunday morning with a total of thirteen people attending. On that morning Bishop William Gibson preached the first message and proclaimed that no Jesus name, Apostolic, or Pentecostal will preach in our church. Now 30 years later that message still remains the same. There has been no Jesus Name, Apostolic, or Pentecostal behind our pulpit. "

From their website....what does this mean???

They are "Church of Jesus Christ". They apparently believe apostolics and Pentecostals are compromised in doctrine. They are against " Jesus name" because they use "Jesus Christ" instead.

I will say that brother Gibson and his people are very nice in person, and willing to talk doctrine and sit down and discuss anything. I've met him and done just that. They are great people.

aegsm76 02-02-2017 03:00 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1467343)
They are "Church of Jesus Christ". They apparently believe apostolics and Pentecostals are compromised in doctrine. They are against " Jesus name" because they use "Jesus Christ" instead.

I will say that brother Gibson and his people are very nice in person, and willing to talk doctrine and sit down and discuss anything. I've met him and done just that. They are great people.

Interesting.
Wonder how they reconcile the verses that say "Christ Jesus" or "Jesus of Nazareth" or just Jesus.

Esaias 02-02-2017 03:09 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aegsm76 (Post 1467348)
Interesting.
Wonder how they reconcile the verses that say "Christ Jesus" or "Jesus of Nazareth" or just Jesus.

The Name of Jesus Christ: http://youtu.be/PLUAzTWsD3w

Jermyn Davidson 02-02-2017 05:49 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
And so, some wonder, how is it possible to be legalistic with Acts 2:38...

The Oneness Camp is deep and wide with various forms of legalism.

Esaias 02-02-2017 06:53 PM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1467369)
And so, some wonder, how is it possible to be legalistic with Acts 2:38...

The Oneness Camp is deep and wide with various forms of legalism.

No more so than any other "camp" in Christendom.

jfrog 02-04-2017 08:03 AM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1467378)
No more so than any other "camp" in Christendom.

Kind of a lame defense when we are supposed to be special holy ghost filled Christians that have the power....

mfblume 02-04-2017 08:07 AM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson (Post 1467369)
And so, some wonder, how is it possible to be legalistic with Acts 2:38...

The Oneness Camp is deep and wide with various forms of legalism.

How can acts 2:38 be legalistically taken at all? Peter commanded it and so do people whom liberals claim are legalistic demand it.

consapente89 02-04-2017 08:13 AM

Re: Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mfblume (Post 1467616)
How can acts 2:38 be legalistically taken at all? Peter commanded it and so do people whom liberals claim are legalistic demand it.

As I told Jermyn....he mistakes literalism for legalism.


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