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houston 03-28-2017 04:04 PM

Freemasons.
 
Are there any Freemasons here? If so, message me. I have a few questions.

Thanks.

n david 03-28-2017 04:24 PM

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The first rule of being a Freemason is never let anyone know you're a Freemason! :lol

houston 03-28-2017 05:02 PM

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No, it is not.

houston 03-28-2017 05:03 PM

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To be one, ask one.

Esaias 03-28-2017 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1475470)
To be one, ask one.

Talk to just about any cop, a lot of them are Masons. Judges and politicians, too.

Might explain a few things...

houston 03-28-2017 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1475472)
Talk to just about any cop, a lot of them are Masons. Judges and politicians, too.

Might explain a few things...

Explains nothing.

Esaias 03-28-2017 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1475490)
Explains nothing.

Explains almost everything, actually.

houston 03-28-2017 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1475493)
Explains almost everything, actually.

Go on... I'm listening.

Ferd 03-29-2017 10:24 AM

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que the dark evil music

cops and judges are freemasons.

dum dum dum dum...

houston 03-29-2017 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1475541)
que the dark evil music

cops and judges are freemasons.

dum dum dum dum...

Lol. Wasn't your grandfather a Freemason?

jediwill83 03-29-2017 03:12 PM

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Ferd 03-29-2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1475574)
Lol. Wasn't your grandfather a Freemason?

Master. as was his father... and his father.... all extremely good men.
as was my dad who stopped being one when he got the HG in the 60s. has since kind of made some contacts.... never saw the reason to leave it, but did so in obedience.

Sister Alvear 03-30-2017 08:11 AM

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My grandfather was a mason, my cousin was one...my grandmother was a Eastern Star...but I don't know much about masons...they told me Solomon was one!

Esaias 03-30-2017 09:52 AM

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http://www.sacred-texts.com/mas/dun/dun04.htm

Ferd 03-30-2017 12:26 PM

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seriously a link to some internet sight isn't proof of anything.

I truly hate googleresearch

houston 03-30-2017 12:34 PM

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I've been trying to research (using Google). There's a lot of weird info out there. I was fortunate enough to come across a site where masons answer questions from those not in the fraternity.

I had a lengthy conversation (3 hours) yesterday morning with the guy that gave me the app

Esaias 03-30-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd (Post 1475807)
seriously a link to some internet sight isn't proof of anything.

I truly hate googleresearch

So, the text of Duncan's isn't "proof of anything"?

(Not that anything was being " proved" anyway...)

So, if it's published online it automatically has no value, right?

Well, your summary dismissal of something you probably didn't even read IS proof of one thing: your lack of interest in learning anything that doesn't confirm what you already believe.

Whatever.

Esaias 04-02-2017 03:44 PM

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http://www.evangelicaltruth.com/freemasonry-html

Esaias 04-02-2017 03:56 PM

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http://www.emfj.org/answers.htm

Esaias 04-02-2017 04:03 PM

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Christians cannot make the Freemason's oath: http://www.emfj.org/oaths.htm

Monterrey 04-02-2017 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1475464)
Are there any Freemasons here? If so, message me. I have a few questions.

Thanks.

C, stay away from it.

They are deists, they believe in a higher power but not necessarily Christ.

Their symbols and ceremonies include a lot of occult stuff.

Hexagrams, pentagrams, lucifer's apron kind of stuff. Joe Smith was a mason, Brigham young built the SLC temple with masonic occult symbols.

Again, much occult stuff. A discerning Christian has no need for it.

Lots of people are drawn to it because of the apparent power that they imagine they get from it, also the support. Yet it has it's costs.

houston 04-02-2017 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Monterrey (Post 1476604)
C, stay away from it.

They are deists, they believe in a higher power but not necessarily Christ.

Their symbols and ceremonies include a lot of occult stuff.

Hexagrams, pentagrams, lucifer's apron kind of stuff. Joe Smith was a mason, Brigham young built the SLC temple with masonic occult symbols.

Again, much occult stuff. A discerning Christian has no need for it.

Lots of people are drawn to it because of the apparent power that they imagine they get from it, also the support. Yet it has it's costs.

I'm looking into it... I can't find anything that substantiates this. Nothing that is verifiable.

Esaias 04-02-2017 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1476624)
I'm looking into it... I can't find anything that substantiates this. Nothing that is verifiable.

Read the links I posted. Read the writings of current and former Freemasons.

It's not the Rotary Club.

Masonic belief is based on kaballah. It teaches Hiram Abiff, King of Tyre, died and resurrected, and he is the chief example Masons are supposed to follow. It requires oaths and swearing in contradiction to the Lord's express commands. It teaches all religions worship the same God. It requires favoritism and respect of persons, which is sinful. It is clandestine and members are forbidden to reveal its "secrets", which makes it Biblically qualified as "darkness" and a cover for "evil". It is steeped in ritual, borrowed from medieval Jewish and catholic occultism and pagan Baal worship. It is nothing less than a modern day "mystery religion".

houston 04-03-2017 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias (Post 1476631)
Read the links I posted. Read the writings of current and former Freemasons.

It's not the Rotary Club.

Masonic belief is based on kaballah. It teaches Hiram Abiff, King of Tyre, died and resurrected, and he is the chief example Masons are supposed to follow. It requires oaths and swearing in contradiction to the Lord's express commands. It teaches all religions worship the same God. It requires favoritism and respect of persons, which is sinful. It is clandestine and members are forbidden to reveal its "secrets", which makes it Biblically qualified as "darkness" and a cover for "evil". It is steeped in ritual, borrowed from medieval Jewish and catholic occultism and pagan Baal worship. It is nothing less than a modern day "mystery religion".

I have read the links.... I know what they teach about Hiram. I see it as a myth... like Santa Clause. I think you're approaching it as if it is a religion. It is not (or so is the claim).

Esaias 04-03-2017 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by houston (Post 1476643)
I have read the links.... I know what they teach about Hiram. I see it as a myth... like Santa Clause. I think you're approaching it as if it is a religion. It is not (or so is the claim).

Of course it's a myth. What do you think occultism is based on and uses? Myths are used as vehicles or symbols of ideas.

Regardless, becoming a Freemason requires you to sin against Christ, as I already demonstrated. But some professing Christians are willing to do that in exchange for the social and financial benefits they think they will get from membership in the Lodge.

houston 04-03-2017 05:21 AM

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You want to join a fraternity? Or you want to see the lame walk and the dead raised?
From a friend. :eek:


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